Moon Crew on Runnin' up the Score

[Big Bubba Ray]

This thread really brought out the CPJ and high school offense lovers.

Citadel, 2019

 

[smokey_wasp]

Five wins. Seven times the option worked, since that was the actual question.

Ah, okay, so that would include 2012 and 2013, which were losses of 47-31 and 55-31? I mean, I guess, if that's what we are hanging our hats on at this point. But again, nothing recent. Those early years were fun as heck, no doubt. It wasn't coming back.

 

[aeromech]

I knew we'd never been that bad against them, but did we set a record among all teams being that bad against them? Like, even little sisters of the poor teams?

If so, that's truly impressive.

Well, let me look:
2018
WF 63-3
UL 77-16
2017
Citadel 61-3
Kent State 56-3
2016
South Carolina State 59-0
South Carolina 56-7
Syracuse 54-0
2015
Miami 58-0
2014
South Carolina State 73-7 Whoo-hooo! we have a twin

I think the tie breaker goes to us since we did it in our own house.

 

[cincyjacket]

I don’t blame Clemson. I blame CGC.

 

[Walton]

Clemson talking about & insulting GT is a good thing. It raises GT's profile.

All that talk about Clemsoning didn't hurt Clemson. This kind of stuff will not hurt GT unless we allow it to.

 

[Old-Fashioned UGA Hater]

Except for those seven times when it wasn't.

I think everyone knows that was before Clemson starting really bring in the top 5 classes year in and year out. CPJ was never going to beat Clemson or Georgia again and he knew it too.

 

[gtrower]

That’s all well and good, except CPJ beat Dabo 5 times. Doesn’t really fit the non-threat narrative. And tbh, nobody in the ACC is a threat to Clemson right now.

There might be the something to the suggestion that Dabo doesn’t like Collins, though. Sure didn’t look like it on Saturday.

Yeah CPJ was essentially the only threat that Dabo’s really seen in the ACC over his tenure. We probably own half the conference losses Clemson has suffered since he took over in ‘08.

 

[gtrower]

I think everyone knows that was before Clemson starting really bring in the top 5 classes year in and year out. CPJ was never going to beat Clemson or Georgia again and he knew it too.

2020 cycle was Clemson’s first Top 5 class under Dabo I believe (probably first ever).

 

[DinnerJacket]

No one has mentioned, you know, Clemson just might have been a little ticked at us for scheduling them as our HOMECOMING game.

 

[cincyjacket]

No one has mentioned, you know, Clemson just might have been a little ticked at us for scheduling them as our HOMECOMING game.

I don’t think that factored in. They are just that much better.

 

[beej67]

I think everyone knows that was before Clemson starting really bring in the top 5 classes year in and year out. CPJ was never going to beat Clemson or Georgia again and he knew it too.

Sweet, so all we have to do to win against them is recruit in the top 5 for four straight years. Piece of cake.

 

[fatmike91]

No one has mentioned, you know, Clemson just might have been a little ticked at us for scheduling them as our HOMECOMING game.

Oh please. The schedule completely changed with a few weeks to go before the season started. We’re lucky to be playing a homecoming game at all.

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[OptionsJacket]

Yeah CPJ was essentially the only threat that Dabo’s really seen in the ACC over his tenure. We probably own half the conference losses Clemson has suffered since he took over in ‘08.

I think we are tied with FSU AND USCe

 

[johncu]

I love CPJ, but it really doesn't make sense to compare Collins to him yet. Next year I think we can start fairly comparing, and by 2022 Collins will have to put up or shut up. I think the chances of our offense ever being at a CPJ level are slim to none, but our defense could (and should) be a lot better if we can keep recruiting athletes.

This year I want to win some games, but mainly I want to see some semblance of identity and evidence that our players are being coached up and improving from week to week. We did look a lot better against Louisville, so let's hope that trend continues against the rest of our schedule, which IMO we should be able to compete against.

 

[beej67]

I think the chances of our offense ever being at a CPJ level are slim to none, but our defense could (and should) be a lot better if we can keep recruiting athletes.

This is fair.

The whole "Everyone Gets a Free Year Of Eligibility Because Covid" thing should help out the low rung teams too. In some ways it buys Collins an extra year.

 

[Old-Fashioned UGA Hater]

Sweet, so all we have to do to win against them is recruit in the top 5 for four straight years. Piece of cake.

If you couldn't see the difference in talent out there I don't know what to tell you. It was 18yr olds v. NFL prospects out there. Remember when we used to send guys to the NFL? And yes recruiting is what is going to bring us out of the dulldrum of embarrassing losses.

 

[johncu]

This is fair.

The whole "Everyone Gets a Free Year Of Eligibility Because Covid" thing should help out the low rung teams too. In some ways it buys Collins an extra year.

True, but it also cost him some important time that he could have been teaching the new system, coaching up all of our young talent, working out, etc. I tend to think that COVID affects transitioning programs moreso than established ones, at least at the moment. Unless you just meant that it tempered our expectations, in which case I don't disagree. Still, 2020 COVID year or no, we gotta win some games in years 3 and 4 and not put up the embarrassing performances we have in years 1 and 2.

 

[GTLiebs]

True, but it also cost him some important time that he could have been teaching the new system, coaching up all of our young talent, working out, etc. I tend to think that COVID affects transitioning programs moreso than established ones, at least at the moment. Unless you just meant that it tempered our expectations, in which case I don't disagree. Still, 2020 COVID year or no, we gotta win some games in years 3 and 4 and not put up the embarrassing performances we have in years 1 and 2.

The loss of the spring training is underrated, in particular for the offense. Even for the defense, people ask why we're still starting someone like Curry, but losing out on more training for the younger players probably plays a big role in that vs the experience and knowledge Curry and Jackson have.

As to another point thats been talked here and there in this thread, there was definitely something different in this game compared to what would normally happen. You don't toss out something like that slick misdirection play they scored on against a team like us for no reason. Can debate all you want what that reason was, but I think there was definitely something.

 

[ElCidBUZZingFAN]

If you couldn't see the difference in talent out there I don't know what to tell you. It was 18yr olds v. NFL prospects out there. Remember when we used to send guys to the NFL? And yes recruiting is what is going to bring us out of the dulldrum of embarrassing losses.

Ya. Those 2 or 3 guys per year really did us wonders historically. I mean we were really a steady championship level team.

People act like we were a farm system and CPJ ruined it all.

You sound dumb talking about NFL talent as if we’ve won more than 2 conference titles in 30 years with all that “NFL talent.”

 

[beej67]

True, but it also cost him some important time that he could have been teaching the new system, coaching up all of our young talent, working out, etc. I tend to think that COVID affects transitioning programs moreso than established ones, at least at the moment. Unless you just meant that it tempered our expectations, in which case I don't disagree. Still, 2020 COVID year or no, we gotta win some games in years 3 and 4 and not put up the embarrassing performances we have in years 1 and 2.

No, I mean the few good recruits we do get, we get to keep an extra year. And any recruits the big programs keep an extra year means their rosters will be overfull and some leftovers will spill down to us in a year or two.