Navy head coach Ken Niumatololo will not return for 2023

1982Jacket said:
I'll admit, a career as an Annapolis graduate officer in the US Navy can't really compete with Carson Newman.


Meanwhile . . . he won 11 games and the Liberty Bowl in 2019 . . . and waxed his arch-rival by 24 points. The last three years were not great . . . only 11 wins. But he beat UCF twice in a row, lost to ND this year by only 3 points, and beat his arch rival last year and lost a heartbreaker to them in double-OT this year.

If Clown had that record over the last four years, he would still be our coach and probably working on the remainer of a 4 or 5 year extension.

I;m thinking somebdy higher up just didn't like Coach Ken.
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He's been on the hot seat for the longest time. He doesn't win.
 
I didnt have time to go through all the Niumatololo fanboy posts but good gawd he has his fans here. Dude just couldn't adapt fast enough to recent rules changes that handicapped the flexbone offense teams. To be fair, all of the academies have seemingly struggled since the rules changes but Niumatololo failed in beating AFA and Army so he deserved his sentence.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
The service academies aren't about playing football though.


PJ would've won 8+ every single year with their schedules.
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No. He wouldn't.

Last year, in 2021, they played ONE team with a losing record. Temple. They played four teams who had ten wins each (Notre Dame, Cincinnati, Air Force and Houston), and another with nine wins (UCF). That doesn't even count SMU who was ranked 24 when Navy played them and got as high as 19 before a late season collapse, but still finished with 8 wins.

It was a brutal schedule.
 
1982Jacket said:
No. He wouldn't.

Last year, in 2021, they played ONE team with a losing record. Temple. They played four teams who had ten wins each (Notre Dame, Cincinnati, Air Force and Houston), and another with nine wins (UCF). That doesn't even count SMU who was ranked 24 when Navy played them and got as high as 19 before a late season collapse, but still finished with 8 wins.

It was a brutal schedule.
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Yes he would. The scheme was the equalizer, remember??

Remember???

PJ would've beaten Delaware, Memphis, Least Carolina, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, and likely CIN and UCF. That's 8 and, although USAF owned him, he probably wins that too. Plus Army. Notre Dame definitely beats the hell out of PJ though.

Hell, that's 10 wins there and then he loses in the conference championship (0.333% in those so just going with the #s). A 10-win season followed by a trip to Detroit or Baton Rouge or Charlotte or some crap like that.
 
Think he should've been given one more year. They only started 4 Sr's and the AAC is going to get A LOT weaker next year.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
Hell, that's 10 wins there and then he loses in the conference championship (0.333% in those so just going with the #s). A 10-win season followed by a trip to Detroit or Baton Rouge or Charlotte or some crap like that.
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you are absolutely hilarious.
 
ricejacket said:
Think he should've been given one more year. They only started 4 Sr's and the AAC is going to get A LOT weaker next year.
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Those would actually be reasons to get rid of him now if you believe Navy can do better than him as a coach, would presumaby they do.
 
BigDanT said:
Didn’t we have like a top 10 schedule the past two years?
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Depends on who's ranking them and how they're doing it. Purely on oppponents' won-loss record (a retarded way to do it), SI says we were 18th last year. PowerrankingsGuru had us 27th last year. ESPN factors in their Power Rankings and had us 7th last year.

IMO, the entire concept is screwed. It depends on your realistic goals. Is it "easier" to play a schedule where all of your oppoenets are average or maybe a little above, with no great or horrible teams, or a schedule that includes all four playoff teams . . . and then 8 other teams that are all atrocious?

If you're Bama and your goal is undefeated, which schedule is worse: (A) three teams who win 11 games this year plus nine teams that go winless ; ; ; or (B) 12 teams that all win 6 games each'? The pure W/L says (B) but the reality is (A). OTOH, if you're Tech and you're just tryna win 6 games and get bowl eligible, then (B) really is worse. And that is just peeling one layer of this 20 layer onion. IMO . . . there is no objective criteria one can use in general to say that one schedule is worse or "harder" than another.
 
Ed Sawyer said:
Also Navy has won 8+ games five times the past decade, Army five times, and Georgia Tech two times.
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Most of their success came before they joined the AAC. Once teams started playing Navy every year, they started losing a lot more.
 
05GTCorndog said:
Most of their success came before they joined the AAC. Once teams started playing Navy every year, they started losing a lot more.
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Not really. This was their eighth year in the AAC and they went 4-4 in league play. Were they good? No, but that’s my point. Option teams can’t simply be mediocre like any other offensive scheme. They have to be “figured out” and other bullshit reasons. No one says Todd Monken’s offense is figured out after he went 3-9 at Southern Miss but they say it about Jeff Monken when he goes 6-6 at Army. It’s bullshit
 
Ed Sawyer said:
Not really. This was their eighth year in the AAC and they went 4-4 in league play. Were they good? No, but that’s my point. Option teams can’t simply be mediocre like any other offensive scheme. They have to be “figured out” and other bullshit reasons. No one says Todd Monken’s offense is figured out after he went 3-9 at Southern Miss but they say it about Jeff Monken when he goes 6-6 at Army. It’s bullshit
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They went 14-2 in their first 2 years and have 1 winning season in the last 6.
 
05GTCorndog said:
They went 14-2 in their first 2 years and have 1 winning season in the last 6.
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Those teams had Keenan Reynolds at QB, who is probably the best player Navy has had since Roger Staubach. That’s why the “option is figured out” argument is so facile. Y’all don’t bother to do any analysis outside of surface-level crap. It’s just whatever arguments can be used to support a narrative
 
Ed Sawyer said:
Those teams had Keenan Reynolds at QB, who is probably the best player Navy has had since Roger Staubach. That’s why the “option is figured out” argument is so facile. Y’all don’t bother to do any analysis outside of surface-level crap. It’s just whatever arguments can be used to support a narrative
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Reynolds was in the running for the Heisman. Finished 5th.
 
CPJ - "Physical Superiority cancels all theories."
 
Ed Sawyer said:
Those teams had Keenan Reynolds at QB, who is probably the best player Navy has had since Roger Staubach. That’s why the “option is figured out” argument is so facile. Y’all don’t bother to do any analysis outside of surface-level crap. It’s just whatever arguments can be used to support a narrative
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So Keenan Reynolds can be credited with making the entire offense work. Without high-level players the offense sucks and high-level players don't want to play in it.

Do you ever get tired of sucking off that boring high-school offense?
 
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