New ACC 2024-2030 Schedule Release Tonight

[OptionJacket]

“If you take my comments as superior that’s a you problem”

proceeds to call others with different opinions whiners and a threat.

Also VPI played BC every year. And that was a tough Game for them every season. While Clemson only became difficult late in the division era. Balance tends to shake itself out over the years in college ball with a few exceptions.

The only ones I consider whiners are those fans who say things like “I’m gonna stop watching college football” etc. That probably isn’t you. See, I love this sport because of the fans and passion. I just find it funny that some fans are so enraged that players can now choose where they play and that playoffs are finally happening. I just don‘t understand fans who don’t like more college football. That’s like loving ice cream but demanding only 3 flavors.

 

[gtchief]

I don’t think anyone stopped to think that none of the fsu/Nc/vt think of us as natural rivals. We yell but,

Nc would think nc st or duke first
FSU would prob think Mia or klempsum first.
And Virginia tech would obviously think of virg and maybe others before us.
Maybe klempsum didn’t want us either. If that’s the case, we wouldn’t be left with anyone. So I be fine with no friends…I’m used to it.

Bro. A part of Clemson tradition is tied to Tech. Their AD is a Yellow Jacket. There’s no way they said no. It was just us. JBatt could leave next year and we’re stuck with his decision for seven.

 

[OptionJacket]

so do you actually want us to be good, or just the perennial overrated team that coasts to end of season then gets thumped in first round of every play off game by the teams that actually earned their spot? if so, just need to go join group of 5 conference.

Both. It’s not a this or that proposition. We need to win games and be good. Playing Ole Miss and losing, no matter how well we played, is still a loss come December. Right now would you rather be 4-4 with a loss to Ole Miss or 5-3 with a win over MTSU? I enjoyed my experience in Oxford as much as anyone but I’d gladly give that up to have won a game and get to a bowl where my team can practice for another 2 weeks and maybe pick up a DL recruit or two.

 

[aeromech]

Bro. A part of Clemson tradition is tied to Tech. Their AD is a Yellow Jacket. There’s no way they said no. It was just us. JBatt could leave next year and we’re stuck with his decision for seven.

Maybe saying 'no' was Neff's payback for GT picking TStan over him.

 

[USCJacket]

Because regional rivals are fun games and what help make college football appealing. The Clemson games were some of the best games I recall on campus. Not having a yearly rivalry game within our own conference is bizarre. Especially given we have teams who we have played nearly 100 times and are close in proximity.

Here’s the problem though. GT’s only “regional rivalries” are Clemson and FSU. Do you want to play both annually along with uga, while UVA gets BC, Pitt and VT for example? Personally, from a regional standpoint I would. It’s what the SEC, B1G have done, and even with additions will continue to do post expansion starting next year.

Problem is there would be and have been a very vocal amount of GT fans complaining about how unfair the schedule has been recently. And that doesn’t even take into account playing OOC series against Ole Miss, UCF and ACC rotation ND. There’s nothing teams like UVA, VT, Pitt, BC can do about the fact that their regional rivals aren’t even close to the level of GT’s. It’s the difference between certain parts of the country at this point.

So GT AD Batt is in a no win situation. People want better results on the field, but GT can’t do anything when 2/3 regional programs (Clemson/uga) have been playing at historic levels, and FSU is now rebounding Into previous blue blood form after a significant downturn.

Taking a look at the 2024 schedule won’t be too easy either. The new ACC schedule, GT loses Clemson in place of Duke or NCSU. If you go by the ACC standings alone to date, GT will be playing all the the top 7 teams next year. This doesn’t even include NCSU or Syracuse. OOC vs ND (MBS), Georgia State, VMI, @ uga.

 

[USCJacket]

Nobody gives a öööö about UGA and Bama. At least half of their schedule is always teams that are one or two state borders away. You know, compelling regional games. You seem to have a fascination with this false equivalence.

And that’s in part because unlike the ACC, B1G and B12, the SEC (even through expansion) maintained regional rivalries. Adding Mizzou, TAMU the first time kept them locked in with Arkansas. Now add in Texas, OU brings all 5 with history back together. All while not breaking apart the traditional rivalries formed over time.

At least the new B1G will have regional pods on the West coast (USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington) to go along with the traditional rivalries. The B12 is bringing the 4 corners schools in to go along with the 2 Utah schools keeps some continuity there. Only Cincy, WVU, UCF are the outliers.

The ACC is a band of misfits from Big East merged with 2 P12 schools + SMU to form a league. It’s a complete mess. Truthfully, I don’t blame Clemson and FSU for continuing to pursue options for leaving the ACC. That rumor with Clemson announcing they are leaving the ACC by the end of the year is still out there. If you go by the GOR, adding Stanford, Cal, SMU will hold the ACC together even if 1 or both leave.

Truthfully, I wish the ACC and B12 could trade WVU, UCF with Stanford, Cal. ACC and academics I know (blah, blah, blah) it would just make so much more sense geographically for both conferences.

 

[vapspwi]

I guess I side with the opinion that an easier schedule will help us more than losing three annual Clemson games will hurt us. I imagine we wanted out of that game due to the annual "0-2 start" others have pointed out. But what really disappoints me is that after 40+ years in the ACC there still wasn't another team that wanted us as a protected rival. I assume that is a two-way street and no one (except perhaps Clemson) wanted us.

Yeah, it’s pretty sad that we’re not more integrated into the ACC after so many years - we still seem like a stepchild, even moreso than the newer newcomers that still have their old Big East rivalries.

JRjr

 

[donsue]

Yeah, it’s pretty sad that we’re not more integrated into the ACC after so many years - we still seem like a stepchild, even moreso than the newer newcomers that still have their old Big East rivalries.

JRjr

It has been evident for years, the only schools the ACC looks out for are on Tobacco Road.
It is exactly why it is, and always will be, minor league

 

[juraitwaluzka]

You guys are missing the biggest loss in all of this. It's not clemson or fsu or any of that. With us not playing UVA every year, that is just that many less times Cavman will make an appearance to tell us of his swashbuckling sword swallowing tales of intrigue, magna cum laude. This loss is as huge as the swords he loves to swallow.

 

[USCJacket]

It has been evident for years, the only schools the ACC looks out for are on Tobacco Road.
It is exactly why it is, and always will be, minor league

Again, show proof of this. 4 schools cannot stronghold and override 13 others into decisions such as scheduling. Especially considering UNC voted against ACC expansion each round this time. So to say the ACC only looks out for Tobacco Road is a bit of a straw man argument.

The NC schools + VA schools are all located geographically, while most of the conference otherwise is spread out north, south and now west. The only rivalries are former Big East along with FSU / Miami that seem to have been voted to remain together. Yes, GT-Clemson is a rivalry, but there is a reason why either Batt or Clemson decided to disband it as a perm rival.

 

[clapper]

Again, show proof of this. 4 schools cannot stronghold and override 13 others into decisions such as scheduling. Especially considering UNC voted against ACC expansion each round this time. So to say the ACC only looks out for Tobacco Road is a bit of a straw man argument.

The NC schools + VA schools are all located geographically, while most of the conference otherwise is spread out north, south and now west.

You keep posting like everything comes up for a vote.

 

[USCJacket]

You keep posting like everything comes up for a vote.

4 schools did not control all the scheduling decisions, while everyone else just sat there and didn’t care. Come on already. They don’t control the conference like some of you make it out to be. No one cares about CBB in terms of controlling a league now. It’s all about football. Keeping FSU and Clemson happy should be priority #1 right now to stabilize the conference which is teetering on the edge of collapsing. Why do you think the ACC pushed to get SMU, Cal and Stanford added so quickly? It’s to ensure a conference remains when (not IF) Clemson and FSU leave. Expansion by numbers keeps ESPN locked into the media deal even when someone leaves.

 

[GTLiebs]

4 schools did not control all the scheduling decisions, while everyone else just sat there and didn’t care. Come on already. They don’t control the conference like some of you make it out to be. No one cares about CBB in terms of controlling a league now. It’s all about football. Keeping FSU and Clemson happy should be priority #1 right now to stabilize the conference which is teetering on the edge of collapsing. Why do you think the ACC pushed to get SMU, Cal and Stanford added so quickly? It’s to ensure a conference remains when (not IF) Clemson and FSU leave. Expansion by numbers keeps ESPN locked into the media deal even when someone leaves.

4 schools might of said to the rest "hey we're all going to play each other every year no matter what, which will create odd imbalances in the number of matchups between schools, so you guys figure out the rest".

Actually I would say the schedule is a possible example of ACC office focus on NC. It's not that 4 schools controlled or forced anything on the rest, it's that the ACC got the NC schools what they wanted and then had some combination of everyone else doing whatever they wanted and putting the rest together without really thinking hard about it, which to me would explain how despite getting rid of the previous permanent matchup system it has a real "you would of fooled me" look with how often we still play Louisville and WF.

Basically I'm saying, it's not that the ACC forces Everything around the NC schools, but they probably just care a lot less about quality work for the rest. Probably also add whichever teams are hottest big names at the moment to the NC schools in terms of what they try for. Like how you get an ACC title game based in Tampa Bay, FL.

 

[donsue]

Again, show proof of this. 4 schools cannot stronghold and override 13 others into decisions such as scheduling. Especially considering UNC voted against ACC expansion each round this time. So to say the ACC only looks out for Tobacco Road is a bit of a straw man argument.

The NC schools + VA schools are all located geographically, while most of the conference otherwise is spread out north, south and now west. The only rivalries are former Big East along with FSU / Miami that seem to have been voted to remain together. Yes, GT-Clemson is a rivalry, but there is a reason why either Batt or Clemson decided to disband it as a perm rival.

It isn’t so much the schools themselves, but the almost overt disdain for the non-Tobacco Road schools that comes out of the league offices. The prevailing mindset has been, and will be, that the “basketball first” schools and the longest league tenured schools will always have favor.

 

[greenmachine]

Keeping FSU and Clemson happy should be priority #1 right now to stabilize the conference which is teetering on the edge of collapsing. Why do you think the ACC pushed to get SMU, Cal and Stanford added so quickly? It’s to ensure a conference remains when (not IF) Clemson and FSU leave. Expansion by numbers keeps ESPN locked into the media deal even when someone leaves.

if its a done deal clemson and fsu will eventually leave, why should conference try to keep them happy?

 

[WracerX]

if its a done deal clemson and fsu will eventually leave, why should conference try to keep them happy?

I’ll go one step further. FSU and Clemson leaving is a done deal. It is in the ACC’s interest to encourage them to leave while paying the maximum buyout. Run them through the ringer.

 

[ElCidBUZZingFAN]

I think J Batt got it right and some of you have touched on it by saying we will get more exposure and $$$ with a winning schedule. J is turning over every rock to find more money and he found it here. The thing no one has noted is that the ACC just amended their revenue distribution plan to reward teams that do better. We definitely get a generally lighter schedule which should amount to a better record. At the same time the Clemson/F$U annual matchup forces them to cannibalize each other every year - one of them gets a guaranteed loss. The same is true for every other locked-in matchup of better teams in the conference. That helps us.

Is that how it's going to work (pure W/L)? Or is there going to be a component of eyeballs you bring to a conference matchup?

Cause GT/Wake vs GT/Clemson is a loser prop in that aspect.

 

[JJacket]

Yeah honestly they don’t really care that much. Shame really.

I wouldn't mind having games at SMU. Easy flight and the airport is close to the stadium. Depending on game time, you could almost fly in, watch game, fly out from Atlanta.

 

[1990wspjacket]

We stopped there in 2000 on our way up to Blacksburg for the VPI lightning game. I bought a Pink Floyd shirt that did not feature the band.

BTW, WHICH ONE'S PINK?

 

[1990wspjacket]

Because regional rivals are fun games and what help make college football appealing. The Clemson games were some of the best games I recall on campus. Not having a yearly rivalry game within our own conference is bizarre. Especially given we have teams who we have played nearly 100 times and are close in proximity.

Wont matter if we get out of the ACC though..