New ACC 2024-2030 Schedule Release Tonight

OptionJacket said:
We finally have an AD who makes proper decisions for the present of GT football and the future of GT football and y’all are whining about not playing Clemson because we need their money to fill up our stadium. This is bizarro world with you guys.

Our fanbase and students just had one of the funnest nights in 8 years inside our stadium and it didn’t include Clemson or any “protected rival”. Every team is a rival and every game is important. Clemson is no more special than UVA.

And if we win all this takes care of itself because if we win we will have several more big time games per year. Y’all complain that UGA ducks Bama every year but you never mention how they play them in the SECCG. That is playing them! Hopefully, we will get to play FSU or Clemson every year but that depends on us winning.
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I’m not whining about filling the stadium but that is a component yes. UNC is a rival. We won’t play them as much. We have played them close to 100 times in our history. People like the matchup. It was homecoming. Why are we in a conference if we don’t play someone…ANYONE…every year? Completely bizarre. We are just a collection of teams now. Even in the NFL where the product is football and not football+nostalgia+regional affiliation they recognize the importance of playing SOME teams every year.

You act as though your opinion is superior to the last 100 years of college football because now we can be Boise State.
 
GTCrew4b said:
I’m not whining about filling the stadium but that is a component yes. UNC is a rival. We won’t play them as much. We have played them close to 100 times in our history. People like the matchup. It was homecoming. Why are we in a conference if we don’t play someone…ANYONE…every year? Completely bizarre. We are just a collection of teams now. Even in the NFL where the product is football and not football+nostalgia+regional affiliation they recognize the importance of playing SOME teams every year.

You act as though your opinion is superior to the last 100 years of college football because now we can be Boise State.
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It’s a revenue sharing contract now, nothing more. And that’s how we should treat it. ACC knows the GOR has us tied down, that we’d rather be somewhere else, that the SEC is cold to us, and that we nearly went bankrupt as an independent. And they’ve acted accordingly.
 
OptionJacket said:
We finally have an AD who makes proper decisions for the present of GT football and the future of GT football and y’all are whining about not playing Clemson because we need their money to fill up our stadium. This is bizarro world with you guys.
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GT-Clemson is a compelling regional game. They are our closest, and most played ACC opponent. It always generates local, and often national, interest. More GT fans want to go see us play Clemson then Wake Forest or Pitt. You may not like that inconvenient fact but it is true. If you want to boil this down to simply wanting money to fill up our stadium that's a dumb bad faith strawman.

OptionJacket said:
Our fanbase and students just had one of the funnest nights in 8 years inside our stadium and it didn’t include Clemson or any “protected rival”. Every team is a rival and every game is important. Clemson is no more special than UVA.
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Lol. Just because you say something and you want to believe it doesn't make it so. Do you even like college football? It's nothing without regional rivalries and tradition. I suspect you know this is a dumb thing to say but you said it anyway because it sounds nice. To Hell with Everyteam!

OptionJacket said:
And if we win all this takes care of itself because if we win we will have several more big time games per year. Y’all complain that UGA ducks Bama every year but you never mention how they play them in the SECCG. That is playing them! Hopefully, we will get to play FSU or Clemson every year but that depends on us winning.
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Nobody gives a öööö about UGA and Bama. At least half of their schedule is always teams that are one or two state borders away. You know, compelling regional games. You seem to have a fascination with this false equivalence.
 
I can only speak to my own opinion, and I think all the opinions I've read here are valid.

I'm surprised with how little I care about this. Clemson hasn't been much of a rival since ~2012. Between Clemson and UGA, we have effectively been starting our schedule at 0-2 every year. If anything, I feel that our most natural ACC rival over the past 20 years has been Virginia Tech.

I also personally like the scheduling variety. Under the old divisional system, if you missed an opportunity to travel to an Atlantic division opponent for an away game, you had to wait another 14 years for the next one. I'll enjoy the opportunities under this system to go to Syracuse, Stanford, Cal, SMU, BC, etc.

In summary, I'm a bit surprised at the outcome, but I don't really think it will affect my attendance at games or passion for the team.
 
GTCrew4b said:
I’m not whining about filling the stadium but that is a component yes. UNC is a rival. We won’t play them as much. We have played them close to 100 times in our history. People like the matchup. It was homecoming. Why are we in a conference if we don’t play someone…ANYONE…every year? Completely bizarre. We are just a collection of teams now. Even in the NFL where the product is football and not football+nostalgia+regional affiliation they recognize the importance of playing SOME teams every year.

You act as though your opinion is superior to the last 100 years of college football because now we can be Boise State.
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If you take my comments as thinking I’m superior that’s a you problem. You say Clemson is a rivalry. Fine. I say I don’t care if we play Clemson every year no different than if don’t play Duke every year. My issue is with the total lack of balance we have had. For all those Coastal years every team in our division played a much easier crossover ”rival” which cost GT waaaay more money than if we sold an extra 15,000 tickets to Clemson fans every other year. Missing the ACCCG to Beamer multiple years because they played Wake while we played Clemson cost us money, prestige, and recruits.

And the entire landscape of college football has changed so fans need to change their thinking. You don’t have to (which obviously many aren’t) but those fans are now the whiners and threaten to leave the sport because it isn’t the old way. It will never be the old way. I root for the 11 GT players on the field. I don’t care anymore if they were recruited by GT or are transfer guys. All that is just noise. I root for our players on game day no matter who we play.
 
GT flunkout said:
GT-Clemson is a compelling regional game. They are our closest, and most played ACC opponent. It always generates local, and often national, interest. More GT fans want to go see us play Clemson then Wake Forest or Pitt. You may not like that inconvenient fact but it is true. If you want to boil this down to simply wanting money to fill up our stadium that's a dumb bad faith strawman.



Lol. Just because you say something and you want to believe it doesn't make it so. Do you even like college football? It's nothing without regional rivalries and tradition. I suspect you know this is a dumb thing to say but you said it anyway because it sounds nice. To Hell with Everyteam!



Nobody gives a öööö about UGA and Bama. At least half of their schedule is always teams that are one or two state borders away. You know, compelling regional games. You seem to have a fascination with this false equivalence.
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Come on man. I love college football. And I love it more now than previously because it’s way less corrupt due to playoff games and conference championships. We have finally moved past sports reporters choosing the Champ. It ain’t perfect yet but with every iteration of the playoff we are getting closer to a fair system where good teams having good years have a true on field chance to prove themselves. What’s funny is to see fans whining about the sport more than ever because of the changes. But something tells me when GT gets into the expanded playoffs after finishing 9-3 and being ranked #16 that all these same fans whining will be there. And I’ll be there thinking “do these folks understand that if we had played and lost to Clemson instead of thumping Cal that we would be 8-4 and ranked 29th and would be at home right now”.

And yes, you’re darn right that I believe a win over a garbage team is better than a moral victory loss to a top tier team. If any team wins 9-10 games they’ll have plenty of opportunities to play big time games in the post season. But doing the Chan Gailey of 7 win seasons won’t do squat for money or recruiting. You gotta win games to attract money and players and no in December cares about the easy wins in September. All they see is that you are 11-1, 10-2, or 9-3. You don’t get a special pat on the back going 5-7 but losing to 7 teams in the top 10.

In my perfect world we would play the easiest 11 games we could and UGA. Then we play in the conference title game then the playoffs.
 
OptionJacket said:
If you take my comments as thinking I’m superior that’s a you problem. You say Clemson is a rivalry. Fine. I say I don’t care if we play Clemson every year no different than if don’t play Duke every year. My issue is with the total lack of balance we have had. For all those Coastal years every team in our division played a much easier crossover ”rival” which cost GT waaaay more money than if we sold an extra 15,000 tickets to Clemson fans every other year. Missing the ACCCG to Beamer multiple years because they played Wake while we played Clemson cost us money, prestige, and recruits.

And the entire landscape of college football has changed so fans need to change their thinking. You don’t have to (which obviously many aren’t) but those fans are now the whiners and threaten to leave the sport because it isn’t the old way. It will never be the old way. I root for the 11 GT players on the field. I don’t care anymore if they were recruited by GT or are transfer guys. All that is just noise. I root for our players on game day no matter who we play.
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“If you take my comments as superior that’s a you problem”

proceeds to call others with different opinions whiners and a threat.

Also VPI played BC every year. And that was a tough Game for them every season. While Clemson only became difficult late in the division era. Balance tends to shake itself out over the years in college ball with a few exceptions.
 
OptionJacket said:
In my perfect world we would play the easiest 11 games we could and UGA. Then we play in the conference title game then the playoffs.
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so do you actually want us to be good, or just the perennial overrated team that coasts to end of season then gets thumped in first round of every play off game by the teams that actually earned their spot? if so, just need to go join group of 5 conference.
 
greenmachine said:
so do you actually want us to be good, or just the perennial overrated team that coasts to end of season then gets thumped in first round of every play off game by the teams that actually earned their spot? if so, just need to go join group of 5 conference.
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I would much rather be overrated then underrated, and it isn't even close. Overrated teams get better bowls, better TV slots, more $$, and better recruiting. Underrated teams get early December bowl games in Boise and noon time slots on Bally Sports. So yeah, I would rather potentially lose a first round playoff game to a top 5 team, than potentially lose the Humanitarian Bowl because no one wants to be there.
 
I guess I side with the opinion that an easier schedule will help us more than losing three annual Clemson games will hurt us. I imagine we wanted out of that game due to the annual "0-2 start" others have pointed out. But what really disappoints me is that after 40+ years in the ACC there still wasn't another team that wanted us as a protected rival. I assume that is a two-way street and no one (except perhaps Clemson) wanted us.
 
I think J Batt got it right and some of you have touched on it by saying we will get more exposure and $$$ with a winning schedule. J is turning over every rock to find more money and he found it here. The thing no one has noted is that the ACC just amended their revenue distribution plan to reward teams that do better. We definitely get a generally lighter schedule which should amount to a better record. At the same time the Clemson/F$U annual matchup forces them to cannibalize each other every year - one of them gets a guaranteed loss. The same is true for every other locked-in matchup of better teams in the conference. That helps us.
 
Duke has employed the easy scheduling, get a good record, and make a bowl plan for years now, and it’s working for them. Now they are recruiting better, winning more ACC games and hell even their crowd size is growing. It doesn’t hurt that they have more money than God, no telling what kind of NIL war-chest them bastards have got.
 
clapper said:
I think J Batt got it right and some of you have touched on it by saying we will get more exposure and $$$ with a winning schedule. J is turning over every rock to find more money and he found it here. The thing no one has noted is that the ACC just amended their revenue distribution plan to reward teams that do better. We definitely get a generally lighter schedule which should amount to a better record. At the same time the Clemson/F$U annual matchup forces them to cannibalize each other every year - one of them gets a guaranteed loss. The same is true for every other locked-in matchup of better teams in the conference. That helps us.
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This. We already have to play UGA, a program that consistently recruits top 10 talent. The truth is that we don't really have any true rival outside of UGA. You can try to make the case for Clemson-GT, but that's about it. Even then, we aren't necessarily rivals. We're just two teams that have had lots of close matchups in the past few decades (barring the post-CPJ years).

The new schedule is refreshing. We get to play a different set of teams each year, and that makes the matchups more special. I could see a new rivalry spawning out of either Cal or Stanford. I could also see L'ville-Tech becoming a thing. Yes, change is hard, but it could be a whole lot worse.
 
No more trap games because you're never looking ahead to a rival on the schedule. Pure genius.
 
cajunjacket said:
You can try to make the case for Clemson-GT, but that's about it. Even then, we aren't necessarily rivals. We're just two teams that have had lots of close matchups in the past few decades (barring the post-CPJ years).
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When we joined the ACC, Clemson was the ACC football school that also played basketball (they still are). We were seen the same way - even by our own fans - back then. Having Clemson just up the road and a history of playing them during our independent years sort of sealed it.
 
It’s hard to predict from year to year, but if I was Jbatt I would have asked for the 8 worst programs in the ACC to try to get to the championship more often. I think we missed an opportunity here.
 
BackstreetBuzz said:
It’s hard to predict from year to year, but if I was Jbatt I would have asked for the 8 worst programs in the ACC to try to get to the championship more often. I think we missed an opportunity here.
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This is my issue with what we know. J Batt could have pursued the most "meaningful" rivalry games. Or he could have pursued the "easiest" rivalry games. We can debate which strategy is better. But it seems he didn't pursue any strategy at all.
 
savbandjacket said:
I get Louisville not really having any rivals considering they are a relatively new add to the conference, but Tech, J Batt specifically, deciding that Tech has no in-conference rivals chaps my ass some. Clemson is the no-brainer but I can at least understand not wanting it as a permanent game. But why not UNC, FSU or VT? Any of those would have made sense. Instead we get some sort of hybrid rival of Louisville/Wake that almost no one cares about.
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I don’t think anyone stopped to think that none of the fsu/Nc/vt think of us as natural rivals. We yell but,

Nc would think nc st or duke first
FSU would prob think Mia or klempsum first.
And Virginia tech would obviously think of virg and maybe others before us.
Maybe klempsum didn’t want us either. If that’s the case, we wouldn’t be left with anyone. So I be fine with no friends…I’m used to it.
 
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