News Flash: Geoff Collins isn’t going anywhere

jts1207 said:
Pastner had some success year 1 with an actual roster….2 and 3 were dumpster fires.
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Actual roster would be a matter of opinion, but sure.

You are likely the ONLY person on Stingtalk that thinks Collins has shown himself to be better at coaching his sport than Pastner at this point. But I certainly appreciate your enthusiasm.
 
coit said:
Actual roster would be a matter of opinion, but sure.

You are likely the ONLY person on Stingtalk that thinks Collins has shown himself to be better at coaching his sport than Pastner at this point. But I certainly appreciate your enthusiasm.
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He’s already proven to be a better recruiter. I’m not jumping off a cliff where we lost QB1 early.
 
If things keep going like they did Saturday night, there may soon come a point where Tech cannot afford to keep Coach Collins.

Attendance, support, contributions and recruiting will decline drastically and rapidly. Tech football under Collins has reached the final stage: it's pathetic, irrelevant and embarrassing, and nobody takes it seriously. It's Dwayne Morrison time. But, maybe we'll find a Bobby Cremins for football.

You keep comparing Collins to Pastner. You're overlooking the fact that basketball doesn't drive the Athletic Department bus. Football does.

For the last three years, people have been trying to decide whether to believe what Collins says or what they see. I have wanted to believe what he says, because it's what I want to hear. But, after Saturday night, I just can't believe what he says anymore. I now believe what I see.

I think he'll go about 2 - 10 this year. I don't think he'll be our coach next year. As much as it will cost to get rid of him, it will cost more to keep him.

I feel sorry for him. But, not too sorry, because he will walk away with about 20 million dollars of Tech fans' money and leave total destruction of our football program behind.

The real biggest transition in the history of college football will be the transition away from him. But, it will only take one good football coach to do it.

How long do you think Georgia, Clemson, Notre Dame or Alabama would put up with Collins? We won't catch them with a coach they're laughing at.

I think we'll win this Saturday night. But, the rest of the year will be so bad that a change will have to be made.
 
coit said:
And he's already proven that he can't outcoach his opposition.

NIU's average recruiting rankings are around 100. Stop using the QB excuse. Sims was missing wide open receivers by 5 yards. Yates played better than Sims.
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Yes let’s pretend losing your QB off all positions didn’t matter.

it’s also a proven fact that how a QB plays the first few series of the first game of the season is how he will play the rest of the game as well as season

Penn St had 78 total yards of O in their 1H ….for whatever reason the stuck with their QB and lit up the 2H. Amazing isn’t it
 
jts1207 said:
Yes let’s pretend losing your QB off all positions didn’t matter.

it’s also a proven fact that how a QB plays the first few series of the first game of the season is how he will play the rest of the game as well as season

Penn St had 78 total yards of O in their 1H ….for whatever reason the stuck with their QB and lit up the 2H. Amazing isn’t it
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Well if you want to talk about the actual game, let's talk about why Coach Pat refused to run the ball when we clearly couldn't throw it.
 
You watch. Tech can and will fire Collins if he does not show improvement this season. Hopefully there are performance clauses in his contract that would allow Tech to avoid paying any sort of buyout due to his lack of performance. If not, the big boys will pony up the dough to kick his butt to the street. I hope he gets his act together and gets things going in the right direction but at this point, I have my doubts that is going to happen.

Go Jackets!
 
jts1207 said:
He’s already proven to be a better recruiter. I’m not jumping off a cliff where we lost QB1 early.
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And he proves week after week that he and his staff don't have a clue how to coach those great recruits. Johnson was somewhat justifiably criticized for not recruiting, and yet he won with what he had. Collins is obviously a good recruiter, and yet he still loses with what he has.
 
Are you guys just guessing about the buyout or do you have some other information? I’m under the impression that there’s no way we can afford the $14M to fire him, but I have no inside information.
 
LagrangeJacket said:
Are you guys just guessing about the buyout or do you have some other information? I’m under the impression that there’s no way we can afford the $14M to fire him, but I have no inside information.
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Where there's a will, there's a way, and from what the "big money guys" said in that AJC article last week, it seems that there MIGHT be a will on their part.
 
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our staff is a joke.
 
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CiraldoForever said:
If things keep going like they did Saturday night, there may soon come a point where Tech cannot afford to keep Coach Collins.

Attendance, support, contributions and recruiting will decline drastically and rapidly. Tech football under Collins has reached the final stage: it's pathetic, irrelevant and embarrassing, and nobody takes it seriously. It's Dwayne Morrison time. But, maybe we'll find a Bobby Cremins for football.

You keep comparing Collins to Pastner. You're overlooking the fact that basketball doesn't drive the Athletic Department bus. Football does.

For the last three years, people have been trying to decide whether to believe what Collins says or what they see. I have wanted to believe what he says, because it's what I want to hear. But, after Saturday night, I just can't believe what he says anymore. I now believe what I see.

I think he'll go about 2 - 10 this year. I don't think he'll be our coach next year. As much as it will cost to get rid of him, it will cost more to keep him.

I feel sorry for him. But, not too sorry, because he will walk away with about 20 million dollars of Tech fans' money and leave total destruction of our football program behind.

The real biggest transition in the history of college football will be the transition away from him. But, it will only take one good football coach to do it.

How long do you think Georgia, Clemson, Notre Dame or Alabama would put up with Collins? We won't catch them with a coach they're laughing at.

I think we'll win this Saturday night. But, the rest of the year will be so bad that a change will have to be made.
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I mean, it would be one thing if you could justify paying the buyout thinking that fans would come out in droves and pack the stadium or up their contributions under a new guy. But they won't.
 
smokey_wasp said:
I mean, it would be one thing if you could justify paying the buyout thinking that fans would come out in droves and pack the stadium or up their contributions under a new guy. But they won't.
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That is obviously true, but with Collins in place the number of fans coming is going to get less and less. He lost a good many fans on that stupid 3rd quarter goal line series, first when he called for a FG, and then when he let the boos from the fans change his mind. He has lost whatever control he ever had, and the fans, for the most part, see it
 
coit said:
Actual roster would be a matter of opinion, but sure.

You are likely the ONLY person on Stingtalk that thinks Collins has shown himself to be better at coaching his sport than Pastner at this point. But I certainly appreciate your enthusiasm.
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Asking this idiot to have an informed opinion about Pastner is like asking Lev to have an informed opinion about Trump.
 
CiraldoForever said:
If things keep going like they did Saturday night, there may soon come a point where Tech cannot afford to keep Coach Collins.

Attendance, support, contributions and recruiting will decline drastically and rapidly. Tech football under Collins has reached the final stage: it's pathetic, irrelevant and embarrassing, and nobody takes it seriously. It's Dwayne Morrison time. But, maybe we'll find a Bobby Cremins for football.

You keep comparing Collins to Pastner. You're overlooking the fact that basketball doesn't drive the Athletic Department bus. Football does.

For the last three years, people have been trying to decide whether to believe what Collins says or what they see. I have wanted to believe what he says, because it's what I want to hear. But, after Saturday night, I just can't believe what he says anymore. I now believe what I see.

I think he'll go about 2 - 10 this year. I don't think he'll be our coach next year. As much as it will cost to get rid of him, it will cost more to keep him.

I feel sorry for him. But, not too sorry, because he will walk away with about 20 million dollars of Tech fans' money and leave total destruction of our football program behind.

The real biggest transition in the history of college football will be the transition away from him. But, it will only take one good football coach to do it.

How long do you think Georgia, Clemson, Notre Dame or Alabama would put up with Collins? We won't catch them with a coach they're laughing at.

I think we'll win this Saturday night. But, the rest of the year will be so bad that a change will have to be made.
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For years we laughed at that clown Dabo. Shaddap.
 
jts1207 said:
Yes let’s pretend losing your QB off all positions didn’t matter.

it’s also a proven fact that how a QB plays the first few series of the first game of the season is how he will play the rest of the game as well as season

Penn St had 78 total yards of O in their 1H ….for whatever reason the stuck with their QB and lit up the 2H. Amazing isn’t it
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Penn St played Wisconsin in Madison, we played a winless 2020 team at home. Sims looked, and is, awful. His first half wasn't an anomaly, it's who he is.
 
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