Patenaude's Offense

JJacket said:
The best offensive mind in college football was under .500 for the last 4 years - a worse record than powerhouse Wake Forest. Care to revisit your statement?
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Did you read my post? We were mediocre in recruiting, didn't teach fundamentals well, and hired 3 bad DCs in a row (Woody never got time to prove himself).

We had a brilliant tactician, but there's a lot more to football than that.
 
johncu said:
Did you read my post? We were mediocre in recruiting, didn't teach fundamentals well, and hired 3 bad DCs in a row (Woody never got time to prove himself).

We had a brilliant tactician, but there's a lot more to football than that.
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Sounds like excuses for being mediocre
 
JJacket said:
And I'm getting tired of seeing our players get body slammed tackled by UGAg. Y'all are underestimated how much bigger, stronger, and faster we are since January
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lol you guys remember that time Paul told that funny UGA fan works at Walmart joke?
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I suspect the offense with our current athletes will look more like the Coastal Carolina version: more rushing than passing. The challenge will be handing off 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage, which gives defenders a clearer view of who has the ball and more time to pursue the ball carrier. When the TO was working best, it was by getting 4-5 yds consistently on a quick QB dive or BB handoff, hitting a hole before defenders even knew where the ball was. The TO never worked well when we didn't consistently get positive yardage on those runs, and that will be a bigger issue out of the shotgun. I'm concerned that a run-heavy version of the Patenaude offense might struggle against P-5 defenders who will be quicker, better tacklers than the FCS opponents facing Coastal Carolina. So, even if the play calling can adjust to our current athletes, success will really depend on having an effective passing game.
 
I predict that we are trading a back pitches for a ton of quick crossing routes and dump offs to the running backs. The biggest change will be that our o line may block someone from entering the backfield this year.

If we can snap the ball this year and not have a Chinese fire drill on a passing play I’ll be pleased.
 
A couple notes:
1) Our position coaching and player development was sub par across the board under the latter years of CPJ. Sorry if that hurts feelings.
2) Our new scheme is going to look a lot like a mix between Duke and Miami over the past few years against us. Dink and dunks combined with stretch running plays which consistently gain yards, put stress on opposing defenses, and occasionally score touchdowns.
3) Our RBs are going to do good things this year, but don't expect the big chunk plays. Those will happen if our receivers can break tackles on the edge.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
It sounds as though it's like Friedgen's system where they'll have a limited number of plays or concepts but run them out of every personnel set or grouping under the sun.
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Let's pray that Patenaude will be as effective and successful as Coach Ralph Friedgen was!
 
beej67 said:
It is rote shotgun spread BS, same stuff everybody else runs. The people who hated CPJ will love it when it works, and complain about recruiting when it doesn't. Which is basically what everyone did with the last offense.

The only creative bit I've heard is that he sometimes rolls his slot receiver into the backfield as a RB. Which isn't particularly unusual either honestly.

The death of the death march will make me a bit sad, quite honestly. Loved that death march.
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We haven't seen "death marches" since 2016 so they died years ago. CPJ is gone, so everyone STFU with the bitching and actually let the kids play and the coaches coach before you start acting like you actually know WTF the offense is going to look like. Some things I THINK you'll see (because none of us know for sure):

1. Less false starts (if one happens, expect to see that lineman with a whole lot of Brent Key up in his grill when they come to the sidelines)
2. The ability to change a play at the LOS with the play cards that are held up on the sidelines
3. More up-tempo...maybe even catching Clemson in a penalty or 2 for "too many players on the field" when we hustle to the line to run a play while they're making substitutions.
4. Situational use of QB's to play to their strengths. (Short yardage -- Tobias Oliver at QB running an option play, occasional first down -- Graham comes in and rolls out of the pocket with a run/pass option)
5. RPO's
6. A new invention in college football called the forward pass.
 
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JJacket said:
You got a big cry from someone, but I can't recall any death marches over the last several years
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The entire VT game last year was a death march.

But they were certainly rare. AB in particular were fumble prone.
 
The Champ said:
The death march died a few years back any way. Time to move on
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We seldom "death marched" at any point. The 3-O was a big play offense, not a 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense. Death marches were never what the offense was designed for. One defensive strategy against the 3-O was to make it run lots of plays in the hopes there would be a ball handling mistake. If you want death marches go watch Dan Henning and the H-back offense.
 
The crappy offense you guys are complaining about scored 21 against what was most likely the best defense Clemson has ever had. That said how many points do you guys think Pat's offense scores tomorrow night against a very good; but not as good as last year's Clemson defense?
 
aeromech said:
The crappy offense you guys are complaining about scored 21 against what was most likely the best defense Clemson has ever had. That said how many points do you guys think Pat's offense scores tomorrow night against a very good; but not as good as last year's Clemson defense?
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If Wells is on, I’d guess 23, which means Clemson would have to score 60 to cover.
 
goldeagle said:
Let's pray that Patenaude will be as effective and successful as Coach Ralph Friedgen was!
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Thought I remember reading somewhere that GC was asking for input from fridge and GOL. Maybe Fridge sat down with coach Pat and discussed the playbook.
 
aeromech said:
The crappy offense you guys are complaining about scored 21 against what was most likely the best defense Clemson has ever had. That said how many points do you guys think Pat's offense scores tomorrow night against a very good; but not as good as last year's Clemson defense?
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If we can't effectively run tempo, I doubt we get to double digits. IMO our recipe for success is to keep the defense off-balance with tempo (a la Syracuse) and hit them with some trick plays and misdirection to get big chunks of yardage.
 
aeromech said:
The crappy offense you guys are complaining about scored 21 against what was most likely the best defense Clemson has ever had. That said how many points do you guys think Pat's offense scores tomorrow night against a very good; but not as good as last year's Clemson defense?
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Maybe I'm remembering the game wrong, but weren't a couple of those TD's in junk time?
 
aeromech said:
The crappy offense you guys are complaining about scored 21 against what was most likely the best defense Clemson has ever had. That said how many points do you guys think Pat's offense scores tomorrow night against a very good; but not as good as last year's Clemson defense?
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How many of the 21 were against their starters? 7? Why are we still arguing this, anyway? This is Patenaude's first game vs PJ who had well over a hundred under his belt. Not really apples to apples. Guess if we score 21, we will be way ahead of the game, then.
 
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