Paul Johnson to Ravens mini-camp

[beej67]

No way we had a 20% success rate drawing them offsides. 10% tops.

I think 20% is completely reasonable. I remember it happening three or four times. There may be more I don't remember.

We got Clemson once on it in the first half of the ACCCG, and then ran a play out of it for a first down in the second half of the same damn game.

 

[Deke]

I think 20% is completely reasonable. I remember it happening three or four times. There may be more I don't remember.

We got Clemson once on it in the first half of the ACCCG, and then ran a play out of it for a first down in the second half of the same damn game.

I'm pretty sure we got NC State with it twice in the same game. Weirdly, I feel like it worked more often the back half of CPJ's tenure than it did early on.

 

[Flywheel]

I'm pretty sure we got NC State with it twice in the same game. Weirdly, I feel like it worked more often the back half of CPJ's tenure than it did early on.

I agree with this. In the last few years I recall going "FFS not this ag... oh wow it worked".

 

[swampsting]

I'd say it only worked once per season and then everyone in the stands and watching TV would LOLZ and wonder if the other team had watched any film for the past 10 years?

PJ ran the no play at Southern for his five years there. It might have worked once in that time (he also had the QB throwback, the one Qua didn't throw against Georgia, in his second game as GSU head coach. I remember afterward he was beating himself up about that play. "I had the wrong guy in. If we have the right guy in, that's a f---in' touchdown"). Don't know how many times he ran at Navy in six seasons there.

 

[User 10337]

I have always thought that if you implemented CPJ's offense with superior athletes that it would be impossible to stop.

Pretty sure Bill Belichick met with Johnson a few years before he came to GT.

This is from an article written in 2005



So all the guys bitching about the triple option offense are apparently smarter than Bill Belichick.

Your football knowledge is inadequate and your premise is wrong.
Go Jackets

 

[User 10337]

I don’t know how much TO they discussed, but our power running game (not option) was excellent the past few years. It is what killed Miss St and UK in the bowls. It worked fairly well under TM.

Getting some advice on blocking schemes for a single back set wouldn’t be a bad idea.

Please post videos of us running power.

 

[beej67]

Please post videos of us running power.

 

[User 10337]

That’s nice and all but not power. Powerful, yes. Power, no.

 

[rghoae]

I have always thought that if you implemented CPJ's offense with superior athletes that it would be impossible to stop.

Pretty sure Bill Belichick met with Johnson a few years before he came to GT.

This is from an article written in 2005



So all the guys bitching about the triple option offense are apparently smarter than Bill Belichick.

Or rather Bill belichik met with CPJ, took the stuff that was useful and incorporated it into a much more comprehensive offensive system.

Anyways the biggest problem with CPJ was never the TO or even the offense. It was the defense. And 4 or so DCs in the buck had to stop with the head coach.

Edit: Talking solely about offense though, my feeling is that CPJ was unable to adjust to the rule changes which made downfield blocking much more difficult, if not impossible, in our system. As a result, the number of 40yards and a cloud of dust plays reduced, which increased the average number of plays we needed to get a score, making the impact of a single negative yard play, or turnover that much greater.

 

[CoachTech]

That’s nice and all but not power. Powerful, yes. Power, no.

If you mean 'Power" by the pulling of O-linemen and a lead blocker then YES the TO was a power run system. We constantly had a pulling guard and tackle in CPJ system with the B-back lead for the QB.

 

[FatJacket]

Or rather Bill belichik met with CPJ, took the stuff that was useful and incorporated it into a much more comprehensive offensive system.

Anyways the biggest problem with CPJ was never the TO or even the offense. It was the defense. And 4 or so DCs in the buck had to stop with the head coach.

Edit: Talking solely about offense though, my feeling is that CPJ was unable to adjust to the rule changes which made downfield blocking much more difficult, if not impossible, in our system. As a result, the number of 40yards and a cloud of dust plays reduced, which increased the average number of plays we needed to get a score, making the impact of a single negative yard play, or turnover that much greater.

I’m down with that. Paul Johnson, the mighty competitor, who never quit anything, not evening a ping pong game, quit his dream of a National Champion Coach, because the rules got too tough. Laugh at you idiot.

 

[gt2690b]

I’m down with that. Paul Johnson, the mighty competitor, who never quit anything, not evening a ping pong game, quit his dream of a National Champion Coach, because the rules got too tough. Laugh at you idiot.

Too complicated agree or disagree?

 

[WracerX]

If you mean 'Power" by the pulling of O-linemen and a lead blocker then YES the TO was a power run system. We constantly had a pulling guard and tackle in CPJ system with the B-back lead for the QB.

Power, as in hat on hat don’t shed your block just drive them down field. We did it a lot against msu, uk, and ut. SEC teams not named georgia just didn’t handle it well. We did the same against VT the past 4 years. Very little option and a lot of zone blocking.

 

[User 10337]

Power, as in hat on hat don’t shed your block just drive them down field. We did it a lot against msu, uk, and ut. SEC teams not named georgia just didn’t handle it well. We did the same against VT the past 4 years. Very little option and a lot of zone blocking.

No.

Power as in the specific play. In the same realm but different, “Iso” or “dive”.

I haven’t seen power since Gailey

 

[WracerX]

No.

Power as in the specific play. In the same realm but different, “Iso” or “dive”.

I haven’t seen power since Gailey

When someone says “power running game”, it does not refer to a specific play. You either have no idea what you’re talking about or being intentionally dense.