School needs to make up their mind

Discussion in 'Football' started by cuzjacket, Nov 24, 2012.

  1. BuzzCzar

    BuzzCzar Defender of the Universe

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    i agree. its the dumbest idea of all
     
  2. ThisIsAtlanta

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    It's not even a slippery slope matter of leading to anything. ramblinwise wants to implement an exact copy of UNC's AA degrees and just not call it that. :lol:
     
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    its ok, according to ramblinwise the black kids cant learn anything anyways as they are too dumb and lazy - might as well get a few wins out of em
     
  4. ramblinwise1

    ramblinwise1 beware the zealot

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    link?
     
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    Digital Communications. The degree focuses on methods and systems for communicating through social and other forms of digital media, including how people connect, interact, create followers, and influence others.

    Degree resides in the LCC school with courses taken in public policy and computational media. Graduates are prepared to work for political campaigns, companies, and start-ups to create social media presence.

    Football recruiters can say "hey, you can major in Twitter". It meets with GT's mission statement, and it wouldn't be hard to get through the Academic Senate or the BoR.
     
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    ramblinwise1 beware the zealot

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    One of you young whipersnappers needs to turn this to a poll sosen we can vote. I would but I is a confirmed idiot with PB&J tendencies.

    Choices need to be:

    1) Just accept more exceptions for football
    2) Come up with an athletic friendly major
    3) Go to D3 football
    4) Drop football and play soccer
    5) Do nothing

    Then we can settle the issue democratically once and fer all.
     
  7. KrazieJacket

    KrazieJacket Dodd-Like

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    You're asking a board full of dudes to help you get your pole up?
     
  8. andrew

    andrew Bobby Bonilla's Financial Planner

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    Wouldn't a major like that be very popular with non-athletes though? That sounds like something we might actually want to have, sort of a more technically slanted management degree.

    If non-athletes are actually interested in taking it, that would raise competition to get into it, raise the overall level of classes in the program, make it more difficult, and then we'd just end up in the same situation as we are in now.

    Either that or deliberately keep it a dumbed down program focused on only the things you said, which I have to think a lot of non-athlete students who want to do take it would (rightfully) be very upset with.

    Generally football players get stuck in majors that no one else wants to take where no one cares if the classes are worthless. You can't create a degree that would have actual demand to hide players in.
     
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    Yes, which is why it would be approved by the faculty.

    Nope. People don't come to Tech to major in things like this, they come for engineering. Some students decide later that engineering isn't their thing and search for a major like this, but it wouldn't be overrun with people looking for an easy major. If that was the case other liberal arts-type majors (computational media, industrial design, public policy, HTS, etc.) would be overrun right now.

    It wouldn't be a worthless major. Actually make it valuable, but make it a practical degree focused on technical communications and social media, not an engineering or science major. Tech already has majors like this, it's just that you can't really recruit football players by pitching a major where you design chairs. You can recruit them with Facebook and Twitter.
     
  10. andrew

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    I'm not really sure I buy that. With the HOPE scholarship, good students have two choices: U[sic]GA and GT. There are plenty of people who want a good education and don't want to go to U[sic]GA. I figured they ended up in Management/Business because it's not technical but it's also not super specific or academic, like chair designing (lol) or HTS or even international affairs.

    This type of major seems like it would fit into that mold, especially with how social media has been blowing up in the previous years. I think it would really appeal to smart students who don't like the idea of living in Athens but aren't engineers.

    I'm not saying they would necessarily be looking for an easy major; just the opposite, the demand for it from students who aren't just looking for an easy major would cause the quality and difficulty of the program to go up.

    I don't have firsthand knowledge of the situation, but I think you overestimate the difference that the area of a major makes to good football recruits. I think they want to hear that it's not much work and you don't have to do calculus. When U[sic]GA recruited Jarvis Jones, I don't think they were selling him on how rewarding the field of Child and Family development is.

    Business already fills the need of football players who are really interested in an education. With any motivation it's not that hard to stay in given the AA's support structure (which I have experienced firsthand and is more than adequate if the student puts in any effort), and it's a great degree.
     
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    Andrew's right. You aren't going to attract any student athletes who have no concern for academics unless you create a complete joke of a program. Those kids major in Parks and Rec, not anything remotely technical that requires basic calculus. The real choice is going total retard or getting better coaching. CPJ has shown that good coaching on offense can be successful, but hasn't shown that he gets it beyond his precious.
     
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    Assuming the kid qualified to get in to begin with, that would make them--NOT a weak student. Also assuming they would still have to work damned hard to get out (which is a major draw to company recruiters), they would still make whoever they went to work for a valued employee relative to most all other college grads. So, NO andrew, it wouldn't cheapen our degrees.

    I say this with an assumption that the degree program they are switching to is not a ugag Recreation type major, and keep in mind, I'm not a supporter of jock only, or even jock dominated majors, as the direction we should take. We have succeeded before via exceptions and imo can again. The difference our higher academic standards present, is we won't do it as frequently as the factories. I can live with that. Not admitting exceptions from just a few years ago, not so much.