Sims + Clayton

Discussion in 'Football' started by MACHETE, Aug 19, 2019.

  1. Flywheel

    Flywheel What year is it?

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    It will depend on $$$. If Kent State and a handful of FCS schools came by some big boosters and decided to form an alternative to the NCAA which paid players, you would see players defect to that league immediately. Not all, but enough to warrant action. NCAA would try to buy off Congress to protect their monopoly.
     
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    I hope the parents recorded the converstion with Harbaugh.
     
  4. Helluva Entrepreneur

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    And that league would last a couple of years, max, hemorrhaging money because the money follows the big programs, their alumni, and long-time fan bases, not the specific players, as evidenced by every other attempt at forming alternative pro leagues, ever.

    The current situation where every player gets ~$50k + worth of tuition, housing, food, professional training, etc., each year, tax free, is better than 99.999% of the players could earn playing football anywhere else.

    Let all of the 4 and 5 star players abscond to their own minor pro league that no one would watch. Let them make their true market value outside of the universities, and pay taxes, get cut when they are injured or dont perform, etc, and generally experience all of the "glory" of a minor league athlete without major professional backing and subsidizing...the NFL has already shown they aren't willing to front the costs for this. There are hundreds of replacement 3 stars, FCS level guys, and walk-ons that would die to take their place at a big FBS schools. Many would jump at the chance to walk-on and play for free. The big schools with 100 years of history and with hundreds of thousands of generational fans will go on without skipping a beat.

    Until the NFL decides it needs to fund it's own developmental league, there is no real money to be made playing football as a professional outside of the NFL or CFL.
     
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    https://sports.yahoo.com/ex-michiga...during-transfer-waiver-process-150221159.html

    This can only help. NCAA hates nothing more than bad press.
     
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    How about everyone sits a year regardless but they don’t lose any eligibility? That way you can still have 4 years on the field and you don’t flush one of those years if you transfer.
     
  7. GoGATech

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    They actually "claim" that you don't lose a year of eligibility while you sit your year-in-residence, but since the NCAA has a 5 year clock on athletes, there's no way you don't lose a year unless you have not yet red-shirted or are granted a 6th year which usually requires a medical hardship waiver. They should just change it to a 6 year clock.
     
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    They should just eliminate the clock. It serves no logical purpose.
     
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    Well it keeps guys from just getting unlimited eligibility. You'd have guys that aren't getting playing time say "well I sat that year out so I still have 4 years eligibility" every year.
     
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    The one thing I liked about Mark Richt is that he never blocked a player that wanted to go somewhere else. This has been quite eye opening to how much power a school has over their athletes.
     
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    This isn't the only example of Michigan doing this. It happened with the transfer that claimed mental issues and Harbaugh then had a quote in the news talking about "transfers faking mental issues".

    In that case, Harbaugh said they did nothing to stop the transfer but they put wording in his paper work that was used against the transfer; so the exact same thing that happened to Sims. There was also a dispute about how the conservation went with Harbaugh. The player and his parents' story is almost the opposite of Harbaugh.

    Maybe there is some defense but I think Michigan is being a piece of öööö on the issue and knows exactly what they are doing. Harbaugh is a weird and vindictive dude and either he is telling his back office people to do it or he doesn't care enough to be fair in the process.
     
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    The problem with the clock is its tied to undergraduate. For instance. I go to gt. Take a break from football. Graduate in 4 years. Never practice or take a down or never even on the team. My eligibility is up minus one year.

    That is dumb. So. If i decide to go to a grad program for 2-3 years lets say or back to undergrad for a year then 2 years of grad. I cant play now?

    But. If i dont go to school. Play professional baseball for 4 years and make money. Decide to go to school and play football, simply because i was not in school i still have 5 years.

    Ummmm ok. That makes sense.
     
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    Or we could hide all our linemen on the track team as shot putters for two years and let them grow. Then redshirt the 3rd year and hit the field in senior bodies with all 4 seasond to go.
     
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    That's exactly what Jake Skole did, now he playing for UGA as like a 27 year old sophmore.
     
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    The solution is no clock but no more than six years of financial aid. However, I don't think many schools would use up one of their 85 slots indefinitely. The current rules penalize transfers and players who may issues that cause a break in their college attendance.
     
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