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donsue said:
If that irritates you so much about being a Tech fan, you may want to find an SEC program to follow. You seem to think he is the source for all of Tech’s ills. Vanderbilt would be a great option, because that would be closest to where Tech football may have gone.
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Whoa. Let's get this straight: I am the Georgia Tech fan here, YOU are the Bobby Dodd fan. I have heard plenty of explanations and excuses from the Bobby Dodd fans for what Dodd did to the program; but the bottom line is his arrogance got the best of him. He and his followers thought they were much bigger and too good for a conference and as a result he made a misguided, poorly thought out, ill planned decision that is the worst thing that has ever happened to Georgia Tech athletics.
 
BigDanT said:
Bullshit. Tech would have a 70,000 seat stadium and max out at 7-8 win seasons. We may have never won anything but wouldn’t be vandy
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Look, my point is this. We have a handful of people who post on here that believe a decision made 60 years ago is the sole reason Tech football struggles. I am not going to get into the particulars of that argument, as no one really has a crystal ball.
But those who are old enough to have seen the situation decades ago had to realize that Tech football has always fought it’s own administration and certainly the BOR. Not a heck of a lot of that has changed. The giant state schools of the SEC can recruit and keep players who couldn’t spell cat if you spotted them the a and the t.
Was the decision to leave the SEC a bad one? Maybe so. But the ones on here who trash Dodd are just wrong in every respect.
 
aeromech said:
Whoa. Let's get this straight: I am the Georgia Tech fan here, YOU are the Bobby Dodd fan. I have heard plenty of explanations and excuses from the Bobby Dodd fans for what Dodd did to the program; but the bottom line is his arrogance got the best of him. He and his followers thought they were much bigger and too good for a conference and as a result he made a misguided, poorly thought out, ill planned decision that is the worst thing that has ever happened to Georgia Tech athletics.
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Honestly, I am tired of this argument with you. You are certain that the SEC decision is the sole reason Tech football has suffered. Believe what you want. You call me a “Dodd fan”. He, like everyone else made mistakes and decisions. But Tech football was literally put on the map by him, and his effect on hundreds of men that loved him and played for him is immeasurable. With every post you make you throw more insults at him as a person. Disagree with his decisions, fine. But do your homework as well.
 
aeromech said:
:lol: Not only that, we were one of the top teams in the SEC, intentionally blew that up, and then erected a statue and named the stadium after the arrogant cuss that did it...because we're smart.
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If you want a wake-up call, take a hard look at the rosters when we were one of the top teams in the sec. Connect the dots.
 
BigDanT said:
Bullshit. Tech would have a 70,000 seat stadium and max out at 7-8 win seasons. We may have never won anything but wouldn’t be vandy
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Interesting, how many games would we have had against Bama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Tennessee, and Georgia. How have we done against even South Carolina? I don't think we could schedule enough games against Vandy, UK, and Miss St. to reach 7-8 wins. Dodd knew what was coming after the mid 60s, and so did Bryant after he saw Sam Cunningham play at USC. What he didn't see and couldn't have, is the espn effect, and changes in the student body at Tech of the last few decades. You are right though about not being Vandy, but we also would have never seen the '90 MNC, TIAR, or Orange Bowls, much less have the highest award a coach can have, named after the guy some want to vilify.
 
GoldZ said:
Interesting, how many games would we have had against Bama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Tennessee, and Georgia. How have we done against even South Carolina? I don't think we could schedule enough games against Vandy, UK, and Miss St. to reach 7-8 wins. Dodd knew what was coming after the mid 60s, and so did Bryant after he saw Sam Cunningham play at USC. What he didn't see and couldn't have, is the espn effect, and changes in the student body at Tech of the last few decades. You are right though about not being Vandy, but we also would have never seen the '90 MNC, TIAR, or Orange Bowls, much less have the highest award a coach can have, named after the guy some want to vilify.
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It is interesting that most of the ones who post the anti Dodd stuff here likely started really following Tech football in the ESPN era. No one, not SEC fans or anyone could have foreseen the current landscape (which is screwed up badly IMO.
 
donsue said:
If that irritates you so much about being a Tech fan, you may want to find an SEC program to follow. You seem to think he is the source for all of Tech’s ills. Vanderbilt would be a great option, because that would be closest to where Tech football may have gone.
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His legacy as a Coach and making this program even slightly more relevant outlives any mistake he may have made as an AD. We can't expect men to be perfect at everything. Just my opinion.
 
The odd part about all this speculation is that in my circle of friends, many who have been GT football fans for decades, the apathy is surprising. Sure we all care but it is shocking how portal and NIL have fostered a does it really mater to me like it once did. Sure in the big picture of finances and digital viewership it is a big deal. But again it is shocking how many once die hards I stay in touch with who just don’t give a crap. Not as emotionally and financially invested. Sure we willpull for GT but no longer the looking forward to Sat energy that once was. I guess I fall into the old fart change is bad category. Hope I am wrong but this sure feels more like a step to the end and not a return to college football glory days.
 
Dcgt4542 said:
The odd part about all this speculation is that in my circle of friends, many who have been GT football fans for decades, the apathy is surprising. Sure we all care but it is shocking how portal and NIL have fostered a does it really mater to me like it once did. Sure in the big picture of finances and digital viewership it is a big deal. But again it is shocking how many once die hards I stay in touch with who just don’t give a crap. Not as emotionally and financially invested. Sure we willpull for GT but no longer the looking forward to Sat energy that once was. I guess I fall into the old fart change is bad category. Hope I am wrong but this sure feels more like a step to the end and not a return to college football glory days.
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Honestly, I think you're both right.
 
TechRush said:
People act as if college athletes just started getting paid when NIL started. They just don't need to hide it anymore. Top players have always received "perks". NIL is good for the little guy.
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Yeah I can tell based on recent results.
 
smokey_wasp said:
It hasn't really been around long enough to tell. Surely you can't blame our current predicament on NIL.
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No I’m talking about multiple star players transferring to big name schools for better NIL deals in all sports. Recruits selecting their schools based on high dollar NIL deals from big time schools. The pool of people willing to pay lkneu for athletes is much larger at the schools with huge followings. To say this helps “the little guys” is asinine.
 
GTCrew4b said:
No I’m talking about multiple star players transferring to big name schools for better NIL deals in all sports. Recruits selecting their schools based on high dollar NIL deals from big time schools. The pool of people willing to pay lkneu for athletes is much larger at the schools with huge followings. To say this helps “the little guys” is asinine.
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Well, I would say that is more the fault of the portal and free waivers than NIL alone. It's the combination of the two. But still, worse than a system where other schools could give houses, cars and sacks of cash while the little guys caught probation and lost trophies over $200 or one strip club visit? I don't believe it.
 
Dcgt4542 said:
The odd part about all this speculation is that in my circle of friends, many who have been GT football fans for decades, the apathy is surprising. Sure we all care but it is shocking how portal and NIL have fostered a does it really mater to me like it once did. Sure in the big picture of finances and digital viewership it is a big deal. But again it is shocking how many once die hards I stay in touch with who just don’t give a crap. Not as emotionally and financially invested. Sure we willpull for GT but no longer the looking forward to Sat energy that once was. I guess I fall into the old fart change is bad category. Hope I am wrong but this sure feels more like a step to the end and not a return to college football glory days.
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Change can be good or bad, whether an OF or not. NIL/TP is clearly bad for cFB and GT.....imo. Like your friends, I will sorely miss that Saturday energy that I grew up with. The death of cFB (at least in my mind), is like the death of a loved one. New or modern, does not equate to being better than the original---think Coca-Cola vs the cow piss people drink now.
 
smokey_wasp said:
Well, I would say that is more the fault of the portal and free waivers than NIL alone. It's the combination of the two. But still, worse than a system where other schools could give houses, cars and sacks of cash while the little guys caught probation and lost trophies over $200 or one strip club visit? I don't believe it.
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Yep. The zero-friction one free transfer did us in. Specifically the transfer within 100 miles of home or sit out a year stipulation being removed.
 
GT flunkout said:
"according to a report"

Why do people do this öööö. It was a speculative editorial akin to talking out his ass. Everything is a possibility right now.
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And it has this big IF for 2036:

The SEC would likely target current ACC schools, such as Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina or Virginia, sources said. However, those schools would have to find a way out of the ACC’s Grant of Rights, which doesn’t expire until 2036.
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Which should apply to us as well. ACC might not get raided until that buyout is affordable.
 
donsue said:
Honestly, I am tired of this argument with you. You are certain that the SEC decision is the sole reason Tech football has suffered. Believe what you want. You call me a “Dodd fan”. He, like everyone else made mistakes and decisions. But Tech football was literally put on the map by him, and his effect on hundreds of men that loved him and played for him is immeasurable. With every post you make you throw more insults at him as a person. Disagree with his decisions, fine. But do your homework as well.
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Congratulations on such a fine example of the arrogance of Dodd fans. Georgia Tech was on the map well before Dodd; but according to Dodd fans GT didn't even exist under Heisman and Alexander. Dodd was handed a team that won the SEC the two previous years and went to the Orange Bowl for crying out loud. GT won 2 National Championships, the Rose Bowl, and the Orange Bowl before Dodd showed up; but apparently those count for nothing.
 
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