USC and UCLA to Big Ten

[savbandjacket]

That's not how I understand it. If we left, the ACC still owns our media rights. The ACC could broadcast our games or black them out completely. The B1G/SEC would not be able to broadcast our designated home games without consent and any media revenue covered by the GOR would go straight to the ACC. There would be no "increased revenue" because the new conference wouldn't have any of our inventory. We would SMU ourselves: the ACC wouldn't pay us for it since revenue is shared between conference members.

Pretty much this. The ACC members are all handcuffed to each other in a suicide pact unless enough of them decide to completely dissolve the conference (and that is even questionable as to whether it kills the GOR).

 

[BuzzinWreck78]

That's not how I understand it. If we left, the ACC still owns our media rights. The ACC could broadcast our games or black them out completely. The B1G/SEC would not be able to broadcast our designated home games without consent and any media revenue covered by the GOR would go straight to the ACC. There would be no "increased revenue" because the new conference wouldn't have any of our inventory. We would SMU ourselves: the ACC wouldn't pay us for it since revenue is shared between conference members.

you may be 100% correct as to what this contract says, but if it were in court as a divorce case then this wouldn't fall within the realm of "equitable distribution". The conference may be due some compensation but can they take the first born son too? Soon , will be the time for getting the lawyers qued up!

 

[79tech]

If the GOR I reviewed last night is current, this is not true. Any new schools would sign onto the current GOR as a condition of conference membership.

thank you - because I've been wondering about the answer to this question.

A PAC 12 merger with the 8 teams (assumes Washington and Oregon go to BI) might be a good idea. There is strength in numbers. But it is predicated in not opening the door for Clemson and FSU to leave.

 

[WracerX]

That's not how I understand it. If we left, the ACC still owns our media rights. The ACC could broadcast our games or black them out completely. The B1G/SEC would not be able to broadcast our designated home games without consent and any media revenue covered by the GOR would go straight to the ACC. There would be no "increased revenue" because the new conference wouldn't have any of our inventory. We would SMU ourselves: the ACC wouldn't pay us for it since revenue is shared between conference members.

The ACC would have the media rights to our home games only. We could join the new conference and play only away games. Maybe even play ‘away’ games at MBS. The opponent holds the broadcast rights to their games.

 

[gtchief]

The ACC would have the media rights to our home games only. We could join the new conference and play only away games. We could also play ‘away’ games at MBS. The opponent holds the broadcast rights to their games.

That's what I said: designated home games.

 

[BrentwoodJacket]

Pretty much this. The ACC members are all handcuffed to each other in a suicide pact unless enough of them decide to completely dissolve the conference (and that is even questionable as to whether it kills the GOR).

If the conference ceases to exist, there would be no one to enforce the GOR.

 

[savbandjacket]

If the conference ceases to exist, there would be no one to enforce the GOR.

Espn. Particularly if B1G/Fox is involved

 

[GoGATech]

Espn. Particularly if B1G/Fox is involved

But if the ACC does in fact dissolve, and SEC ends up with FSU, Clemson, UNC, and say VT or Miami, would they even care about the media rights of who's left or just go with it?

 

[savbandjacket]

But if the ACC does in fact dissolve, and SEC ends up with FSU, Clemson, UNC, and say VT or Miami, would they even care about the media rights of who's left or just go with it?

If some of the schools go to the B1G/Fox, yes, I think espn will be involved in a fight over GOR.

 

[MatatoGT]

If the conference ceases to exist, there would be no one to enforce the GOR.

Is there any sort of minimum or status quo that has to be maintained for the GOR to be enforced? It seems it was put in place to prevent one or two teams from jumping ship, but what if 6 do? or 8? What if the ACC tries to replace half the conference with other teams, so it's not even really the same conference anymore?

 

[CiraldoForever]

That's not how I understand it. If we left, the ACC still owns our media rights. The ACC could broadcast our games or black them out completely. The B1G/SEC would not be able to broadcast our designated home games without consent and any media revenue covered by the GOR would go straight to the ACC. There would be no "increased revenue" because the new conference wouldn't have any of our inventory. We would SMU ourselves: the ACC wouldn't pay us for it since revenue is shared between conference members.

I think the ACC GOR is weak b/c:

It can be challenged in court by a good lawyer.

We could play "home" games at MBS. If the "visiting" team or the Big Ten rented it and said it was a home game for the "visiting" team. It could even work if the "visiting" team or the Big Ten rented Grant Field from us. Lots of teams have rented Grant Field. Georgia used to, so did the Peach Bowl and the NFL.

The ACC GOR is going to be challenged and dealt with successfully by the first ACC team that gets invited to the Big Ten or the SEC.

The ACC will show how truly pathetic it is and how desirable Tech is if it goes to court to keep us. And how many other ACC teams would support trying to stop us, since they all want to able to leave the ACC if they get invited to the Big Ten or SEC, too.

 

[savbandjacket]

I think the ACC GOR is weak b/c:

It can be challenged in court by a good lawyer.

We could play "home" games at MBS. If the "visiting" team or the Big Ten rented it and said it was a home game for the "visiting" team. It could even work if the "visiting" team or the Big Ten rented Grant Field from us. Lots of teams have rented Grant Field. Georgia used to, so did the Peach Bowl and the NFL.

The ACC GOR is going to be challenged and dealt with successfully by the first ACC team that gets invited to the Big Ten or the SEC.

The ACC will show how truly pathetic it is and how desirable Tech is if it goes to court to keep us. And how many other ACC teams would support trying to stop us, since they all want to able to leave the ACC if they get invited to the Big Ten or SEC, too.

This is actually a decent idea and Tech, being in Atlanta, is in a unique position to do this:
1. “Home” football games at MBS for duration of GOR.
2. “Home” basketball games at one of the area arenas.
3. Give BDS a much needed facelift while this is happening.

 

[gtchief]

I think the ACC GOR is weak b/c:

It can be challenged in court by a good lawyer.

We could play "home" games at MBS. If the "visiting" team or the Big Ten rented it and said it was a home game for the "visiting" team. It could even work if the "visiting" team or the Big Ten rented Grant Field from us. Lots of teams have rented Grant Field. Georgia used to, so did the Peach Bowl and the NFL.

The ACC GOR is going to be challenged and dealt with successfully by the first ACC team that gets invited to the Big Ten or the SEC.

The ACC will show how truly pathetic it is and how desirable Tech is if it goes to court to keep us. And how many other ACC teams would support trying to stop us, since they all want to able to leave the ACC if they get invited to the Big Ten or SEC, too.

I think it really depends on whether home teams are something you can change, because the alternative would be 12 away games every year for 14 years.

 

[savbandjacket]

I think it really depends on whether home teams are something you can change, because the alternative would be 12 away games every year for 14 years.

It won’t last 14 years. The idea that we can do this and defeat the GOR legally will force a settlement.

 

[GTLiebs]

If some of the schools go to the B1G/Fox, yes, I think espn will be involved in a fight over GOR.

ESPN would get involved but if its some to SEC/ESPN some to B1G/Fox anything they try to do to screw over the teams going to B1G would also screw over the teams going to SEC.

 

[clapper]

I think the ACC GOR is weak b/c:

It can be challenged in court by a good lawyer.

That's my point. Maryland settled for $30MM out of $50MM when they left by threatening court. And people keep saying ND has leverage, but for them to leave, they would have to join the ACC in football by the agreement and then quit (and go to court), or threaten court immediately. The ACC's best bet on staying together is to take the next 6-8 teams on the B1G/SEC potential list and leave them no one else to poach.

 

[THWUGA]

Any settlement to leave for B1G or SEC is worth survival.

Remaining in the ACC is like remaining in the big east at this point. It’s crazy some people are still talking next steps like adding Navy UCF and Cincy, and pretending the ACC wouldn’t be conference USA. It’s becoming a two-league top-level. NFC vs AFC with a Super Bowl to decide the championship…. you don’t see that? You’re either in or you’re out.

 

[1982Jacket]

Well the Big Trn is the best womens volleyball so it’s probably a bad example.

So you're saying it's worth it to those UCLA women volleyballers to make all those 4000+ mile round trips because of all the NIL $$ they're raking in. Cool.

 

[1982Jacket]

Who knew there so many practicing contract lawyers here at ST? Awesome expertise!

 

[1982Jacket]

Yeah, I'm not seeing this. I live in Southern California and I've been to (football) game watching parties for both Tech and UNC. UNC parties are at least ten times bigger. They have a huge fan base here.

No one here wants to hear that truth. Because Et-lanta is the mother ööööingest most star spangled awsome city that ever awesomed. So, Tech wins - game over.