Which direction is our program going?

Demjackets could be the AA lunchlady for all I know, but that doesn't matter to me because the factual stuff he posts is pretty darn accurate. I appreciate Demjacket's insight. He does appear to know what he's talking about.

I do think if you're going to represent yourself as an anonymous AA insider in a public forum you should ratchet down the coach slander, though, sir. It's the kind of crap that some reporter could swing by, misinterpret what you're saying, cite you as an anonymous source, and drum up bad press for our team. Press that could cause us to lose a recruit. That's my only concern.
 
demjackets said:
Pre-season expectation of the team was 9 or 10 wins ask the seniors. 8-4 with a senior laden team is not very good.
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A 9 or 10 win regular season was my expectation going into this year. If it were not for two terrible 1st quarters, a muffed punt, and a holding call, then 9 or 10 wins would almost be a certainty. Basically dumb mistakes and a lack of focus early in games...things that I did not expect from this fairly senior-laden team.
 
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Well, 46 total losses in the last ten seasons preceeding 2007. 4.6 per year on average.

Gailey's first five seasons averaged 5.4 losses per.

We have three loses this year with four games to go.

I'd say we are pretty much a five loss per year team and haven't varied that for a decade.
 
beej67 said:
Demjackets could be the AA lunchlady for all I know, but that doesn't matter to me because the factual stuff he posts is pretty darn accurate. I appreciate Demjacket's insight. He does appear to know what he's talking about.

I do think if you're going to represent yourself as an anonymous AA insider in a public forum you should ratchet down the coach slander, though, sir. It's the kind of crap that some reporter could swing by, misinterpret what you're saying, cite you as an anonymous source, and drum up bad press for our team. Press that could cause us to lose a recruit. That's my only concern.
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Thanks for the first part!!

As for the rest, I am not slandering Chan or the program. I made an observation, since someone kept bugging about it. My observation was we would stay the way we are with slow progress unless there was a change. The slow progress has been in every category except on the field aspects though which is the most crucial. How come a couple weeks ago when everyone was calling for Chan's head people didn't get called out? I stand by what I have said all season a contingency plan is in place and expectations need to be met. I am done with this BS:mad:

fyi: Grant is most likely out for the VT game and for a while, fractured ankle, Dwyer will get the start.
 
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The thing that some folks should consider is that dem is not using privileged information to substantiate his opinion.

He is basing his position on the same thing the rest of us do: performance. In that regard, I think those who are leveling accusations at him are yourselves out of line.

Matter of fact, I'd say he'd be out of line if he were singing some tune about how great our coaches are as planted propoganda. At least he's honest and he hasn't said anything that a lot of us haven't said.

Just because he may or may not be inside the program doesn't mean he has to put a strip of duct tape over his mouth before he comes to work everyday.
 
And again it needs to be pointed out that each year we have three very weak sisters --each year Duke, Troy, Samford--this year Army. Chan's record is has been padded just to get to ADEQUATE.
 
Well put and exactly correct.
The problem portion is that if we do start going 10-2 we will not, as a fan base, improve the attendance radically.
 
Yukonwreck said:
And again it needs to be pointed out that each year we have three very weak sisters --each year Duke, Troy, Samford--this year Army. Chan's record is has been padded just to get to ADEQUATE.
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Yukonwreck said:
Well put and exactly correct.
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I think you have to log out and then log back in to switch your handle.;)
 
midatlantech said:
Dem, I just don't see you as a productive Tech fan. As a professed insider, you are tearing the program apart from within with statements like you've made. Win out or not, your statements are BAD for the program. I just don't agree with an insider, who may be a janitor or DRad himself for all I know, trying to effect change in your method. It is just not very teamlike to me.

Regarding risk taker, I guarantee that just about everyone of you are way behind me on risk taking. If all you want is a risk taker...then we will fail miserably just like risk taker ultimately do in the stock market, etc. If you want to throw the dice and risk your life away at 50/50, help yourself. GOOD risk takers actually take out risk or minimize the risk OR maximize the reward first.

Being a head coach is not just making game day decisions any more. It's about working within a budget, it's about "raising kids", it's about recruiting and finding the right kids...Gailey has done a good job on a large portion of his assignment. Considering probation, etc. he still gets a pass on wins/losses. However, I do agree that certain issues and certain games must fall under review later if necessary.

Like I have said before, either you are a Tech fan or not. In midseason, creating controversy for your own good or because you enjoy it, is not being a Tech fan IMO.
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demjackets really hasn't said much about CCG's situation. It's nothing you couldn't insinuate from the situation and fan frustration. He hasn't called for him to fired or said he definitely will be. From what I've gathered he's said that there are certain things CCG needs to do to keep his job. What those things are are between the AA and CCG. I think like many tech fans he wants to see the program do well and is not immune to frustration because he works in the AA.

What controversy has he caused? I don't understand. All I know is that demjackets provides us with a lot great information about the program that we otherwise couldn't get.
 
00Burdell said:
I think you have to log out and then log back in to switch your handle.;)
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AAAAhhhhhhhahaha. Busted.

beej67,
wonders if he has yukon muted twice

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as a counterpoint, every coach in football gets little sisters opponents to pad their schedule.
 
Dem, I know you don't understand but no (positive)fan FROM THE INSIDE would ever tear his own team down, be it in the army, The White House, Corporate World Or the Tech athletics program.

If I knew who you were and I was DRad, I'd fire you on the spot.

It's one thing to say how a player's health is or insinuate there may be a move on the depth chart from the inside, quite another when you tear down the coach (or anyone else). Gone or not, to be a part of the inside team and then tear down a teammate is a no no in my book.

I know you don't understand but by admitting that there are certain goals that must be met admits that the coach is in trouble (and I'm not talking internet complaining). That's a problem that will fester internally and externally. It does absolutely no good for the program.

I question that you are in fact on the inside now. I don't question your youth or lack of experience in a team arena.
 
I know personally, questioning my boss and calling out my coworkers anonymously on an internet discussion board would get me fired if he caught me.
 
midatlantech said:
I question that you are in fact on the inside now. I don't question your youth or lack of experience in a team arena.
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fortunately for dem your opinion is meaningless, and I hope he stops posting on this board.

People do things as favors and get shot down for it. Much like what happened to me on the hive. So... I stopped and I urge dem to as well.
 
I would use the word plateaued as opposed to stagnant. We are a good, not great program. We are competitive against anyone (some big wins, close losses to Dawgs). We can lose to some pretty average teams. (UVA and MD this year).

The question that divides the fan base and confounds individuals is whether or not you push buttons to start over. Hindsight will be 20/20, but who knows whether getting off of this plateau of good but not great football will lead to improvement or decline?
 
I don't hope demjackets stops posting. I don't mind him voicing his opinion, even though his opinion and mine diverge sometimes. If I were he, the responsible thing to do would be to make 2 accounts. One (demjackets) which posts insider info, and another (not claiming to be an insider) with which he posts his opinions.

The reason that's responsible is that it insulates him from fault if some jackass reporter comes in to Stingtalk and starts fabricating BS by stretching his words, and the BS the reporter drops hurts our recruiting or puts our AD in a craptackular situation with the alumni.
 
Why don't you just encourage him to limit his posts to less destructive?

I'm sorry but I love the Yellow Jackets because we used to be something different. As calculus laden engineers, managers, scientists and architects, we were able to think and analyze and then make a decision. And the sidewalk fans that I have had the pleasure to meet tended to fall similarly.

To help make a decision for the program by tearing it down internally was NOT what we were about.

"I have a good friend who is involved in the basketball program and he told me that if Hewitt doesn't win the ACC this year, that he's been told to move on." Oops, I let it slip (I didn't like him anyway, I wonder if that had anything to do with letting the truth slip out.) But whatever, I'm an insider and a fan and the facts is the facts.
 
midatlantech said:
Dem, I know you don't understand but no (positive)fan FROM THE INSIDE would ever tear his own team down, be it in the army, The White House, Corporate World Or the Tech athletics program.

If I knew who you were and I was DRad, I'd fire you on the spot.

It's one thing to say how a player's health is or insinuate there may be a move on the depth chart from the inside, quite another when you tear down the coach (or anyone else). Gone or not, to be a part of the inside team and then tear down a teammate is a no no in my book.

I know you don't understand but by admitting that there are certain goals that must be met admits that the coach is in trouble (and I'm not talking internet complaining). That's a problem that will fester internally and externally. It does absolutely no good for the program.

I question that you are in fact on the inside now. I don't question your youth or lack of experience in a team arena.
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It could not have been said better my point completely.
 
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