FSU finally shoots down idiotic Big 12 chat

That backloaded contract is crap. Swofford ---- the bed, surprise.

Good bye ACC, hopefully we can get out of this thing. If we can't, we'd better be prepared to run the table.
 
bwolff said:
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From other things I've read; the backloading is standard operating procedure. We're extending an existing contract that is not even two years old.. The $17 million is the average over the lifetime of the contract. So, we will be getting more than 17 million/year later.
 
gpburdell said:
From other things I've read; the backloading is standard operating procedure. We're extending an existing contract that is not even two years old.. The $17 million is the average over the lifetime of the contract. So, we will be getting more than 17 million/year later.
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Is that what the deal will be with the big 12, 10, Pac 12, and SEC contracts?
 
Here is an interesting tidbit I found that addresses the "crushing" travel expenses we or any other ACC school would have to deal with if they joined the Big 12:

The BigXII allows each team to bill the conference for all of its conference-related travel expenses for every sponsored sport. Once each team has been reimbursed appropriately, the remaining conference earnings are split evenly amongst the member institutions.
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http://www.cemetery-hill.com/2012-articles/may/bigxii-rumors-defined.html
 
JJacket said:
Part of the low payout of the ACC is FSU's own ---- fault for dicking up their program so badly. Also Miami. If the ACC had won a few National Championships, or at least played in one recently, we'd be getting more money. FSU should be killing it in the ACC with their recruiting that they have.
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This. I'm not a fan of Swofford's but you have to have something to negotiate with to get the kind of deals you guys seem to think we deserve. For a conference that has had NO impact on the national championship discussion EVER, he hasn't done a bad job.
 
TechRush said:
The two weakest joining forces does not make a super conference.

Cincy, UConn, USF, UCF???

It is akin to saying that Duke's whole offensive line is filled with RS seniors this year. Problem is, they still suck.

You ever watch Big East games? Louisville vs Rutgers or Uconn vs Cincy? You think Tech games have low turnouts?

Meh, I'm going to try to be optimistic. They say college football works in cycles. Maybe if the ACC picks up some teams from the BE, they will get better down the road. At least the ACC wouldn't be as scattershot geographically as the new BE.
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Yeah, I guess Rutgers vs GT would only put 40K in BDS and most of those on th east side would be drinking beer.

But, think of all the TV markets we could reach, NY, NE and Florida. Heck, there must be a million USF and UCF graduates in central Florida alone, all with TV sets.
 
FatJacket said:
Yeah, I guess Rutgers vs GT would only put 40K in BDS and most of those on th east side would be drinking beer.

But, think of all the TV markets we could reach, NY, NE and Florida. Heck, there must be a million USF and UCF graduates in central Florida alone, all with TV sets.
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And the ratings would suck. Sure we would reach NY, but the northeast is overrate IMO because they are so pro sport centered.

Florida may be a little better if USF and UCF build different programs, but outside UF, FSU, and to a lesser extent Miami no one in Florida really gives a ----.
 
bwolff said:
Is that what the deal will be with the big 12, 10, Pac 12, and SEC contracts?
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It should be if the contract is being redone because of additions of teams, etc or due to some other clause in the contract. If the contract is actually ending then that's a different story.

I blame Swofford for not signing a shorter contract 2 years ago; when the economy was really bad..
 
bwolff said:
And the ratings would suck. Sure we would reach NY, but the northeast is overrate IMO because they are so pro sport centered.

Florida may be a little better if USF and UCF build different programs, but outside UF, FSU, and to a lesser extent Miami no one in Florida really gives a ----.
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UCF's stadium was packed for a game against Buffalo a few years ago. You do realize that it's a much larger school than GT, don't you? Their home attendance is higher than Wake, Duke, BC, Maryland, and Syracuse despite being in CUSA. South Florida also outdrew those same schools. I'm not espousing bringing them in, but your comments are really just coming out of your ass.

By the way, we barely outdrew Rutgers who is in the NE. It has a lot to do with winning.

http://today.ucf.edu/football-attendance-on-the-rise/
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/pdfs/2011/2010+national+college+football+attendance
 
The only change I want in the short term is a divisional realignment. I want to play Clemson, FSU, Miami, and VT every year.
 
gpburdell said:
The only change I want in the short term is a divisional realignment. I want to play Clemson, FSU, Miami, and VT every year.
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What logical division realignment would have us playing both Miami and VT every year other than the screwed up one we have now?
 
GT1992 said:
UCF's stadium was packed for a game against Buffalo a few years ago. You do realize that it's a much larger school than GT, don't you? Their home attendance is higher than Wake, Duke, BC, Maryland, and Syracuse despite being in CUSA. South Florida also outdrew those same schools. I'm not espousing bringing them in, but your comments are really just coming out of your ass.

By the way, we barely outdrew Rutgers who is in the NE. It has a lot to do with winning.

http://today.ucf.edu/football-attendance-on-the-rise/
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/pdfs/2011/2010+national+college+football+attendance
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Find me their tv ratings then we can talk. This goes beyond game attendance.
 
gpburdell said:
The only change I want in the short term is a divisional realignment. I want to play Clemson, FSU, Miami, and VT every year.
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Or at least Clemson, FSU, and VT.

ACC Atlantic (or Southern):
GT, FSU, Clemson, UNC, NCSU, Duke, Wake

ACC Coastal (or Eastern):
Miami, UVA, VT, MD, Cuse, Pitt, BC

We could keep VT as permanent cross-division rival; FSU would get Miami; UNC would get UVA, etc (others could be MD/NCSU; Clem/Pitt; WF/BC; Duke/Cuse)
 
What if they just scrapped the divisions altogether and used a yearly rotating schedule minus one or two permanent rivalry games? Then just take the two top ranked teams to play in the Championship game?
 
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I gotta tell you, seeing that makes me really excited. We could go from being in a ööööty conference that is the laughing stock of college football to a conference that would be in the national championship picture every year and give the SEC a run for their money in every aspect of the game and business.

I, for one, welcome our new big 12 overlords with open arms.
 
Same old imaginary conference expansion apocalypse. The ACC will stay the same or add. No one is leaving.
 
MtownJacket said:
Same old imaginary conference expansion apocalypse. The ACC will stay the same or add. No one is leaving.
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I could see FSU leaving. I don't think Clemson is going anywhere. In return for their greed, they'll probably end up in a conference that resembles the Big East when Texas, Oklahoma, or Kansas sees bigger dollars elsewhere. That's a risk that bwolff refuses to acknowledge. Texas was all but gone to the PAC 10 a year ago and like the Big East, if a team or two leaves to the Big Ten or PAC 10, it completely folds. If I were Clemson or FSU, I would be waiting to see what the SEC does. That's a much better long term solution for them.
 
MtownJacket said:
Same old imaginary conference expansion apocalypse. The ACC will stay the same or add. No one is leaving.
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Didn't the last "imaginary conference expansion apocalypse" end with two teams being added to the ACC?
 
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