Fall Camp News

coit said:
Define "playing against our offense" other than the two scrimmages last week and this week.

I assure you that they haven't been lining up to defend our offense in their day to day workouts. If I'm wrong, then maybe the coaching staff are idiots.
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I assure you that you are indeed wrong. Every day, there's at least one segment of 1's v 1's, 2's v 2's, and 3's v 3's (when we have the depth). It's actually pretty impressive to watch. Ones will go against each other and then literally sprint off the field while 2's sprint on and run a play. Then 2's exit and 3's get on and run a play. Rinse, repeat. They get an incredible # of plays run in a segment.

But yes, we don't start emulating other teams' offenses until we finish the early camp part...which finished this morning.
 
He's completed the tear down process. Now it is time to start slowly building them back up. It's like boot camp. They want to strip the individualism to the bare minimum and replace it with team.
 
Johnson said Marcus Allen got dinged up. I am thinking it might be his ankle:
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More Brad Stewart. Never seen a WR look so good catching the ball in still photos:
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daBuzz said:
I assure you that you are indeed wrong. Every day, there's at least one segment of 1's v 1's, 2's v 2's, and 3's v 3's (when we have the depth). It's actually pretty impressive to watch. Ones will go against each other and then literally sprint off the field while 2's sprint on and run a play. Then 2's exit and 3's get on and run a play. Rinse, repeat. They get an incredible # of plays run in a segment.

But yes, we don't start emulating other teams' offenses until we finish the early camp part...which finished this morning.
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yes this is correct. The team does nothing but rep against each other and each others scheme all Spring practice, all Fall Camp, and in skells all summer.

the point being that whoever says we don't rep against each other other than a scrimmage here or there is so wrong. We do exclusively in camp every day. This week, we start forming the scout teams and begin reps vs other formations and offenses we see etc....
 
33jacket said:
the point being that whoever says we don't rep against each other other than a scrimmage here or there is so wrong. We do exclusively in camp every day. This week, we start forming the scout teams and begin reps vs other formations and offenses we see etc....
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I still find this very difficult to believe. That from the standpoint that it is not helping our defense prepare for the season. If they really have spent 2 weeks doing drills against our crazy ass offense, that's 2 weeks that they can't spend preparing for the teams that they will actually be facing.

That just isn't logical to me.
 
Preparing for specific offenses isn't really the objective of fall camp, the way i see it. You're refamiliarizing yourself with the routine, lining up with new pieces and trying not to false start/offsides, getting freshmen into the drills, evaluating conditioning, and getting contact from d1 level players. Plus, CPJ isn't calling plays in these practices the same way he would in a game, making sly blocking changes and trying to exploit the defense. He has a set of plays he'd like to see the guys run well, and they run those plays. The defense, on the flip side, is getting practice beating a huge wealth of blocks, and sitting in man coverage. That's fundamentally what they are going to have to do in the season anyways. Maybe we are served less by it than a team that runs a balanced up tempo spread that looks like half their opponents, but IMO it isn't that much less.
 
carmex said:
“As a defense, I just feel like we’re so much further ahead than we were last preseason,” Golden said. “The way we’re running to the ball now, getting hats to the ball, is like I’ve never seen it before since I’ve been here at Tech.”

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/how-georgia-tech-measured-up-in-second-camp-scrimm/nnK2T/
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I have to temper the excitement I would otherwise feel from that quote with the fact that our defense early last season had me pulling out my hair. The question is really how long it will take before we get back to where we were mid season of last year and if it's possible that the defense picks up where it left off.
 
The Jacket said:
I have to temper the excitement I would otherwise feel from that quote with the fact that our defense early last season had me pulling out my hair. The question is really how long it will take before we get back to where we were mid season of last year and if it's possible that the defense picks up where it left off.
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We got some key turnovers down the stretch, but lets not forget how bad the defense was even at the end of the season.

Orange Bowl: 605 yards allowed
ACCG: 488 yards allowed

We trended up on defense because of turnovers, but we still gave up sustained drive after sustained drive. I think we can be better this year because we were still pretty öööö bad at the end of the year.
 
05GTCorndog said:
We got some key turnovers down the stretch, but lets not forget how bad the defense was even at the end of the season.

Orange Bowl: 605 yards allowed
ACCG: 488 yards allowed

We trended up on defense because of turnovers, but we still gave up sustained drive after sustained drive. I think we can be better this year because we were still pretty öööö bad at the end of the year.
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Fair enough but even outside of the turnovers we were improving overall as the season went, which we usually don't see. I was never a huge supporter of the Roof hire but I wanted him fired during the VPI game.
 
05GTCorndog said:
We got some key turnovers down the stretch, but lets not forget how bad the defense was even at the end of the season.

Orange Bowl: 605 yards allowed
ACCG: 488 yards allowed

We trended up on defense because of turnovers, but we still gave up sustained drive after sustained drive. I think we can be better this year because we were still pretty öööö bad at the end of the year.
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I'd point out as well that we gave up huge yards between the 20s but held well in the redzone in the last 3 games outside of the 1st half of FsU. Lots of FG attempts other than that. Even UGAs 2 offensive TDs were on 4th downs.
 
I think we mostly played OK in the red zone because the shortened field makes it harder to execute a passing game. The defense doesn't have to worry about a deep threat, and the QB might be more inclined to throw quickly to avoid taking a sack that takes them out of field goal range. Our defense did a pretty good job of stopping the run in the red zone, so that helped. To get some improvement this year, we need some 3 and outs, or at least force more punts on the opponents side of the field. It's safe to say, we couldn't get any worse in that regard.
 
jacket67 said:
I think we mostly played OK in the red zone because the shortened field makes it harder to execute a passing game. The defense doesn't have to worry about a deep threat, and the QB might be more inclined to throw quickly to avoid taking a sack that takes them out of field goal range. To get some improvement this year, we need some 3 and outs, or at least force more punts on the opponents side of the field. It's safe to say, we couldn't get any worse in that regard.
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Has anyone done any sort of defensive numbers comparison to the 09 season? Remembering our defense against Florida State that year (and how Nesbitt was our best defensive player that night) particularly in the secondary is always kind of mind-blowing. Being simultaneously successful and that bad on defense still doesn't make much sense to me.
 
The Jacket said:
Has anyone done any sort of defensive numbers comparison to the 09 season? Remembering our defense against Florida State that year (and how Nesbitt was our best defensive player that night) particularly in the secondary is always kind of mind-blowing. Being simultaneously successful and that bad on defense still doesn't make much sense to me.
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That game is still one of the most awesome games I have ever attended. FSU fans were just brutal pregame, at least were I was. Drunk assholes. 9 TD's in the first half. Nesbitt getting the ball back. Thomas used his size to own a corner on a long TD. Lightning delay. The GT drums under the stands during the delay (I never left the stands). FSU fans being dead silent leaving the stadium. It was a wonderful night.
 
JJacket said:
That game is still one of the most awesome games I have ever attended. FSU fans were just brutal pregame, at least were I was. Drunk assholes. 9 TD's in the first half. Nesbitt getting the ball back. Thomas used his size to own a corner on a long TD. Lightning delay. The GT drums under the stands during the delay (I never left the stands). FSU fans being dead silent leaving the stadium. It was a wonderful night.
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That night was probably the high point of my career on this forum. The filters hadn't been installed yet and as a result of the officiating, our secondary and some level of inebriation, my torrent of profanity on the board and in the chat apparently pissed JD off so much that he told MF2 he wanted to kick my ass. To this day my testicles haven't fully re-descended.

Also, if anyone had been near me when Nesbitt stole the fumble, someone could have been seriously hurt. Still hard to believe what I'm seeing when I watch that play.
 
The way offenses are set up these days it would be unrealistic to think you're going to really stop most of them. FSU, UNC, Clemson, even Duke are going to score lots of points and roll up tons of yards. About the only team you don't have to outscore is VT, and heaven help anyone if they eventually figure that out.

Three or four stops a game is about all you need, given our offense.
 
The Jacket said:
That night was probably the high point of my career on this forum. The filters hadn't been installed yet and as a result of the officiating, our secondary and some level of inebriation, my torrent of profanity on the board and in the chat apparently pissed JD off so much that he told MF2 he wanted to kick my ass. To this day my testicles haven't fully re-descended.

Also, if anyone had been near me when Nesbitt stole the fumble, someone could have been seriously hurt. Still hard to believe what I'm seeing when I watch that play.
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I was through the wringer by the end of the game. It was intense. Like take me to a hospital intense at times.

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