Football Scoop: New RB coach

[JJacket]

Nobody we’re going to hire is going to replace Choice because he was one of the top, if not the best, RB coach in the NCAA as a total package. Add that to the fact we’re losing Mason & Gibbs, both NFL caliber RBs.The new guy has Smith and Griffin, so the cupboard is definitely not bare. He’s gonna get his shot to show us what he can do & we’ll probably see the impact more on the recruiting front than we will be able to see on the field.

Choice is a good RB coach, but he is not the best or one of the best. He can get there, but just drawing Gibbs to our school, who was a late bloomer in recruiting, doesn't make him one of the best. Kudos to Choice for taking the advice he was given to check Gibbs out and staying on him, but that is about his resume

 

[Akinji07]

Not really sure what people were expecting from a running backs coach. Those types of hires aren't generally household names. They move up the ranks from places like Buffalo (or North Texas). The only reason we knew who the last one was is because he played here.

Yes, which is why this:

So, we add a guy who was coaching high school a few months ago and another who was an assistant for a 2-10 Tulane team? That tells me nobody sees a future on Collins' staff at Tech. But, I don't blame these guys for taking advantage of our awful situation, and I wish them well. Still, I don't think that these changes are going to make things better for us. We lost the best coach we had. Stansbury should be ashamed. Putting a dirty band aid on a broken neck is medical malpractice, and taking a lot of money to do it is fraud.

And this:

There is a time to complain and there is a time to let a new coach prove his worth.

So if you can shut the öööö up long enough for the rest of us to evaluate the new guy, we would be much obliged. Let me know if you need a dirty sweat sock to shove in your mouth while the adults decide if the new guy is a keeper.

are both unnecessary.

 

[JoeCakeEater]

I do agree that no one was going to replace Choice. He was beloved by Tech fans for his recruiting, his inspirational speaking, his career at Tech, his love for Tech, his positions group’s relative performance, etc.

That said, I see no point to dump on the new guy. Let’s see what he can do. This is about what I expected, an up and comer from a G5 school. I’m excited to turn the page to the 2022 season.

 

[GoGATech]

Not really sure what people were expecting from a running backs coach. Those types of hires aren't generally household names. They move up the ranks from places like Buffalo (or North Texas). The only reason we knew who the last one was is because he played here.

Exactly. While we were crying over losing CTC, everybody at USC was probably going, "who the fook is that guy?"

 

[savbandjacket]

I’m hoping this is a good thing for us. I like Choice, but in terms of people really tied to the stupid stuff about Collins that we are sick of (the culture and marketing stuff), Choice seemed to be primary. He has a lot of Sideshow Bob in him and I’m not 100% sold on his actual coaching abilities.

 

[JoeCakeEater]

I’m hoping this is a good thing for us. I like Choice, but in terms of people really tied to the stupid stuff about Collins that we are sick of (the culture and marketing stuff), Choice seemed to be primary. He has a lot of Sideshow Bob in him and I’m not 100% sold on his actual coaching abilities.

Sideshow Bob? FFS… Choice was great.

 

[GTFLETCH]

meh

 

[GT76]

I’m all for giving the new coach a chance and welcome to the Flats. No call for trashing him.

That said, at least next time somebody asks how hard it is to move…we’ve got someone who can answer that!

 

[CiraldoForever]

There is a time to complain and there is a time to let a new coach prove his worth.

So if you can shut the öööö up long enough for the rest of us to evaluate the new guy, we would be much obliged. Let me know if you need a dirty sweat sock to shove in your mouth while the adults decide if the new guy is a keeper.

We have just spent three years patiently and optimistically evaluating a bunch of Stansbury's and Collins' "new guys." The undeniable result is proof that neither one of them is close to competent at picking "new guys." The time for giving them the benefit of the doubt on hiring football coaches is over. The time for getting rid of them is here.

 

[ricejacket]

I’m hoping this is a good thing for us. I like Choice, but in terms of people really tied to the stupid stuff about Collins that we are sick of (the culture and marketing stuff), Choice seemed to be primary. He has a lot of Sideshow Bob in him and I’m not 100% sold on his actual coaching abilities.

You're a moron. He was the coach of the best position group on the team as well as the recruiting coordinator of some of the best classes we've seen. To dismiss hos contributions is just stupid.

 

[StraightFresh]

February: Army Director of on-campus Recruiting
March-April: Akron RB coach
May-Present: Buffalo RB coach and Recruiting Coordinator

Has ties to GA: RB coach at Statesboro HS from 2011-2013. WR coach at Kennesaw St from 2014-2016

Could also open up the Midwest for us.

As an AD, we need to get back into recruiting the DMV/New England/Midwest. Northern Catholic and prep schools are an infinitely better recruiting match for us than public high schools in the south. It's not a coincidence that our basketball glory years came from recruiting those areas and we've been rudderless since we started recruiting regionally.

 

[JJacket]

We have just spent three years patiently and optimistically evaluating a bunch of Stansbury's and Collins' "new guys." The undeniable result is proof that neither one of them is close to competent at picking "new guys." The time for giving them the benefit of the doubt on hiring football coaches is over. The time for getting rid of them is here.

Pony up then, big shot. Make it happen

 

[daBuzz]

As an AD, we need to get back into recruiting the DMV/New England/Midwest. Northern Catholic and prep schools are an infinitely better recruiting match for us than public high schools in the south. It's not a coincidence that our basketball glory years came from recruiting those areas and we've been rudderless since we started recruiting regionally.

I'm afraid I could not disagree with this sentiment more with respect to football. If Collins has succeeded at one thing, it is showing that we can recruit HS football players from the southeast, get them into school, and for the most part, we have not heard of academic issues arising from these players. And the states of Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Texas and California likely produce more quality Division 1 football players than the rest of the 45 states combined. So let's not take ourselves to go fish in the shallow end of the pond again.

As for basketball, I'd love to see us get back in with the New York and other NE kids again. Kenny Anderson, Bruce Dalrymple, John Salley, Marbury, etc were absolute studs and the playgrounds and high school leagues there are fertile recruiting grounds.

 

[daBuzz]

We have just spent three years patiently and optimistically evaluating a bunch of Stansbury's and Collins' "new guys." The undeniable result is proof that neither one of them is close to competent at picking "new guys." The time for giving them the benefit of the doubt on hiring football coaches is over. The time for getting rid of them is here.

We have just spent 768 posts patiently and optimistically evaluating a bunch of @CiraldoForever's thoughts. The undeniable result is proof that he is not competent at posting 'quality opinions". The time for giving him the benefit of the doubt on football opinions is over. The time for telling him to STFU is here.

 

[StraightFresh]

I'm afraid I could not disagree with this sentiment more with respect to football. If Collins has succeeded at one thing, it is showing that we can recruit HS football players from the southeast, get them into school, and for the most part, we have not heard of academic issues arising from these players. And the states of Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Texas and California likely produce more quality Division 1 football players than the rest of the 45 states combined. So let's not take ourselves to go fish in the shallow end of the pond again.

As for basketball, I'd love to see us get back in with the New York and other NE kids again. Kenny Anderson, Bruce Dalrymple, John Salley, Marbury, etc were absolute studs and the playgrounds and high school leagues there are fertile recruiting grounds.

All I'm saying is, there is absolutely no reason not to fish for kids from Cincinnati and DC Catholic schools who might actually value high-end academics and being in a city, rather than simply being able to overlook it and scrape by like the country kids from the south do. Cincinnati, Michigan State, and Kentucky have built legitimate programs by feasting on all the high-3* and low-4* players that Ohio State doesn't want, and we could totally get some.

GT is at its best as a national recruiter, almost all of our big name players were from outside of Dixie.
Nomar: California
Varitek: Michigan
Teixeira: Maryland
Marbury/Anderson: NYC
Mark Price: Oklahoma
Shumpert: Chicago
Bosh: Texas

GT should overall recruit more like Duke or Notre Dame than Clemson.

 

[Vespidie]

We are going to shock the world next season when we out score everybody, so we dont need a stinkin’ DC. We gots to be a fiscally responsible institution.

 

[daBuzz]

All I'm saying is, there is absolutely no reason not to fish for kids from Cincinnati and DC Catholic schools who might actually value high-end academics and being in a city, rather than simply being able to overlook it and scrape by like the country kids from the south do. Cincinnati, Michigan State, and Kentucky have built legitimate programs by feasting on all the high-3* and low-4* players that Ohio State doesn't want, and we could totally get some.

GT is at its best as a national recruiter, almost all of our big name players were from outside of Dixie.
Nomar: California
Varitek: Michigan
Teixeira: Maryland
Marbury/Anderson: NYC
Mark Price: Oklahoma
Shumpert: Chicago
Bosh: Texas

GT should overall recruit more like Duke than Clemson.

You are making valid points with respect to baseball and basketball (although baseball is another one where the top talent is in the southeast, Texas, California, and Arizona). But it costs money to put recruiters in airplanes to go recruit football players on a national scale and if we're able to recruit a player from the southeast, he will have likely played against stronger competition in high school.

 

[JoeCakeEater]

All I'm saying is, there is absolutely no reason not to fish for kids from Cincinnati and DC Catholic schools who might actually value high-end academics and being in a city, rather than simply being able to overlook it and scrape by like the country kids from the south do. Cincinnati, Michigan State, and Kentucky have built legitimate programs by feasting on all the high-3* and low-4* players that Ohio State doesn't want, and we could totally get some.

GT is at its best as a national recruiter, almost all of our big name players were from outside of Dixie.
Nomar: California
Varitek: Michigan
Teixeira: Maryland
Marbury/Anderson: NYC
Mark Price: Oklahoma
Shumpert: Chicago
Bosh: Texas

GT should overall recruit more like Duke or Notre Dame than Clemson.

Completely disagree. Georgia is a top 5 state nationally for HS football. I’m not saying we shouldn’t cast a net that includes some elite academic schools across the Midwest or whatever… but spending the majority of our staff’s time building relationships with HS coaches in our home state and neighboring states is the path to enlightenment.

Basketball is a different animal, where you’re really just looking for a small handful of guys every year. In that case, it’s worth the time and effort to target these certain pockets nationally.

 

[ricejacket]

As an AD, we need to get back into recruiting the DMV/New England/Midwest. Northern Catholic and prep schools are an infinitely better recruiting match for us than public high schools in the south. It's not a coincidence that our basketball glory years came from recruiting those areas and we've been rudderless since we started recruiting regionally.

Marbury and Anderson were not exactly pillars of academic achievement

 

[CornerBlitz]

Anything else that coaches want to accomplish in their careers is greatly enhanced by winning. Culture, destination jobs, etc., are all okay as long as your staff understands how to get there. At least, the newly hired coaches seem to understand this. It's not as important how long they stay, as it is what they do. For proof of this, just look at the most successful program.

We have had a lot of investment in graduating players. The NIL and transfer portal situation, caused by the NCAA itself, has made this obsolete for the non-factory programs. The NCAA has pushed progress toward graduation, instead of actual graduation. The NCAA on-field rules changes have even favored forcing schools to go to NFL schemes. Bottom line, the NCAA has forced their members into minor league football. The model of one-year scholarships, and a high turnover of ambitious assistants is the one that the NCAA favors. That is the reason that it works.

The total person concept, and the get old, stay old concept, have to take into account the instability that the NCAA has forced onto it's members. You can do anything you want, as long as you understand that it's one year at a time. Loyalty has been made an unaffordable luxury by the NCAA.

So, if anyone is upset that fans are ready to flush both coaches and players, then they need to take it up with the root cause, the college presidents. They created the environment. Pardon the people who donate heavily. Pardon the people who buy tickets Pardon the people who foot the bills if they want to participate in the fun.

This forum is often criticized for its volatile rhetoric. Welcome to the world that has been transitioned to by the NCAA. Gentlemen, start your engines.

Bravo sir…..the ultimate college football red pill. I might include the ADs along with the presidents. Throw in the TV induced conference realignment and you have yourself the sh_tshow CFB is morphing into.

And I love CFB….take no joy in these words.