We've been here before

[GT flunkout]

This whole "elitist fanbase hurts fan support" is a SHAM and is just an EXCUSE by people who are UGA fans as to why they don't pull for Tech despite despite not having any connection to UGA at all. Just stop already.

Only one thing will help: more wins over UGA. All the snobbery in the world doesn't stand a chance against the positive effect of beating UGA more often.

 

[GaTech63]

Even Alabama fired the guy running stadium music for playing "Take the Money and Run" and "Son of a Preacher Man" during Cam's warmups, and that's supposed to the most nasty rivalry in football.

I had not heard this. That is funny and right on. Should not have been fired.

World way too sensitive today. No one has the courage to buck the trend.

It is the same lack of courage that is allowing the Muslims to continue to march their will down the throats of the world.

Thank God our founders and military were not cowards.

Happy Thanksgiving!

THWG

 

[GT flunkout]

I would just like to say to all Tech fans when you see a Ugay fan Saturday, don't drop your head and feel inferior to them as most of us do. Look them in the eye,acknowledge their presence and holler "Go Jackets".Be proud of you're Yellow Jacket football team. You might be surprised about how good you feel about yourself when you stare down a god damn bulldog fan!DO NOT LET THE UGAY FANS INTIMIDATE YOU!!!!! And to all the Tech players, just remember the last time Ugay came to BDS and ran all over your asses when you were really the better team, and remember the wrist bands they wore with "WE RUN THIS STATE" printed on them!!!NEVER FORGET!

Seriously? God I hate our fans sometimes. I have never had ANY inferiority complex to UGA and never will. Who is this "most of us" crap? I mean I guess I agree but this is standard "goes without saying" stuff???

 

[wesleyd21]

Tell me, why would you NOT want to have a larger fanbase, resulting in higher funding for the athletic department, likely resulting in increased success on the field?

because he's "andrew". God what a stupid name. :rolleyes:

 

[cyptomcat]

My post on this from the Hive:

Many of the non-alum GT fans say the same things about uga fans, it's not just the Tech graduates that do it. A recent stingtalk poll found 1/3 of the Tech fans were non-alums (with more than 100 responses) and you can't tell them from alums as far as trash-talking goes. It is what it is.

As far as I am concerned, it's more about a pathetic fanbase that tolerates and rationalizes a university giving a sham education to these 'special-qualifier' athletes that get arrested regularly and show lack of a university-learning in general. As long as they tolerate and rationalize that, they are beneath us.

uga's failings in academics is another issue, the joke majors, being ranked behind TAMU and Ohio State and all. uga is only 1 spot better than Clemson in public university rankings and only a few spots ahead of Auburn and Alabama. That's just sad for being one of the two flagship universities of Georgia that is the economic and cultural center of the South.

 

[GT flunkout]

LOL, proving the point that our fans 1) are not fans, they are situational fans 2) if we had a better broader more appealing fanbase this wouldn't happen.

Again, the fans need to change the perception.

Uh...yeah ok. I guess it proves that like 5-6k of our fans are situational fans I guess, but I guess that means all of our fans? I would think this happens at every place, including the farm school to the east. We need more fans period, we don't need to be denigrating the fans we already have who are obviously some of the best.

 

[GT flunkout]

My post on this from the Hive:

Many of the non-alum GT fans say the same things about uga fans, it's not just the Tech graduates that do it. A recent stingtalk poll found 1/3 of the Tech fans were non-alums (with more than 100 responses) and you can't tell them from alums as far as trash-talking goes. It is what it is.

As far as I am concerned, it's more about a pathetic fanbase that tolerates and rationalizes a university giving a sham education to these 'special-qualifier' athletes that get arrested regularly and show lack of a university-learning in general. As long as they tolerate and rationalize that, they are beneath us.

uga's failings in academics is another issue, the joke majors, being ranked behind TAMU and Ohio State and all. uga is only 1 spot better than Clemson in public university rankings and only a few spots ahead of Auburn and Alabama. That's just sad for being one of the two flagship universities of Georgia that is the economic and cultural center of the South.

absolutely true. Non-alum fans bask in the snobbery every bit as much as our alums believe it or not. And the new non-alum fans we pick up after more wins vs. UGA will do the same.

 

[00Burdell]

Great post 33.

Tech fans (self included) sometimes roll out the 'we are a tough school' as an excuse for a lack of excellence in football. Yet we've proven FOUR times that we can be the best football team in the nation. Seems like that would pretty much prove not only that it can be done but that it can be repeated.

So I agree with 33 - man up and don't have an excuse ready in advance.

 

[AlabamaBuzz]

You can't, because this attitude (intellectual elitism and arrogance) is deeply ingrained in most of the alumni and administration, myself included. Most don't want to change it. Personally, I'm glad we don't have enough sidewalk fans to fill a 90k stadium like U[sic]GA.

As for the Larry Munson tribute, I think that is pretty standard. It's just going to be a pregame thing, before player introductions even. Times have changed and you have to do that now. Even Alabama fired the guy running stadium music for playing "Take the Money and Run" and "Son of a Preacher Man" during Cam's warmups, and that's supposed to the most nasty rivalry in football.

The fact that a GT degree is much tougher and requires more intellect/effort to obtain will never change, but why do we have to belittle everyone about it? I would love to grow our fan base enough to sell out BDS on a consistent basis. Why is it important to maintain an arrogant attitude? This hurts our recruiting also, and I think it is best exemplified by the empty gold seats at the beginning of so many games at BDS.

 

[The V]

A perfect read for the GT fan base. Screw the old dead nadlicker, he never gave a damn about GT and just added hate to the Wal-mart fans in Athens.

I want someone to ask the GT players how they want to sit in the stands one day and watch GT vs UGA and say 'we kicked their ass'. We want this more than any win this year. Someone give that damn sledge hammer to a player and have him carry that on the field on Sat.

 

[texstinger]

Intellectual elitism and arrogance. All you have to do is look at the COFH hate thread and all the jokes about Wal-Mart and how dumb the fanbase is to see that.

One thing I find strange is not the head of WalMart a GT grad?

I would welcome fans to become GT followers and buy tickets no matter where they are from or what kind of work they do.

My Dad was not able to go to college (went to war instead), worked hard after, became successful and ended up in Atlanta. He saw, in person, GT - ugag - and Auburn play. He knew he wanted to be a GT fan (although he always admired the Aubie loyalty). By the time his life was over he had been able to give GT a lot of time, love, and money.

I find it strange that there are those who would even consider not welcoming people like him.

 

[Yukonwreck]

Alot of thoughts about our program on the heels of alot of discussion and opinions.

For years, we enter the last game or two hearing "peach bowl or chikfila bowl is interested in tech, champs bowl is interested, gator bowl at the time is interested"; only to consistently, year after year lay a ööööing egg at the end of the season. For 10 years we have done this. For most of the 10 years, outside of 2 Johnson years and one Gailey we have been relegated to öööö bowls because we limp home. We finish weak. We have lost 5-6 straight at home to our rival.

This year I want to believe. I want to think PJ era is going to turn the tide a bit. Stop the losing streak at home. Win vs UGA and get a good bowl unlike practically every year prior.

Are we any different now?

I agree with Ken about techs arrogance and snobbery. Its true. Its not just in the rival with UGA. It is in general. What tech does, and its pathetic, is when our on field results are inferior, to a rival or another team, we fall back on well we are smarter than you are and your degree sucks. You know what, I want more passionate sidewalk fans with degrees from KSU and GSU etc. This has to stop. Its ridiculous and I know for a fact turns alot of people away from the school. It typifies nerd mentality. We play the game as equals on the field. We don't pull out calculus books. That öööö doesn't matter we don't start the game 7-0 because we are smarter or have a tougher school. What matters are W's and L's and we have to get our öööö right. I am an alumn, I get it, I went to Tech. I don't need to hear this that or the other about our school. I am telling you half this pussified fanbase needs to sack up. We need to stop using academics and stadium size as an excuse. Stop. It is an easy out and a ööööty excuse in an excuse ridden world. The fact is, as a program we have been inferior to UGA and our fans behave that way. Now what are we going to do about it?

Yet here we are, an administration honoring a guy who historically went out of his way to degrade our school. I still can't get this out of my mind. What are they thinking? I don't even know if its classy. I really don't. I can't believe we are doing this. I am at a loss for words. It again, goes into the direction of this administration not getting it. And if it's wes's idea, even if he was his friend, keep it there. He was NO FRIEND TO TECH. HE WAS A ööööING asshole on earth to this fanbase and school.

Can we change? This game is a turning point. Lose, PJ is 1-3 and headed down a path we have all too often lived. Win 2-2 and does the ship turn?

Is georgia tech, just going to be georgia tech for another 10 years or are we going to get our ööööing minds right as an institution, fanbase and administration?

For the life of me, I am routinely puzzled and mystified by the decisions and direction our "leadership" is taking this program. I really am. From proposals of trying to remove as much on campus tailgating as possible (perimeter deck parking and shuttle system), to honoring perhaps the biggest douche to tech since Bear Bryant, to ticket sales/concept and planning, in every which way something happens that makes me go HUH?

This saturday, has to go a long way to stop the trends. It has to. How can we change this deal? It just stinks, it smells like it has for 20 years. I don't have an answer, but by god it can't continue this way.

Happy thanksgiving and öööö UGA.

A great post. Accurate and insightful. Yes, Munson was a douchebag. But sometimes we hold our noses and do stuff for appearance-sake. This is one of those times, I think. Saturday's game is one of dozens of similar games that Tech has approached in the 50 plus years that I have been a fan, i.e., a game in which a victory can change the direction of our football fortunes. Sadly, we have been successful in very few--almost none--of these types of games. The 2009 Georgia game is a perfect example. Our best team in years, their worst, a chance to start a streak on them after breaking their streak on us, etc, etc, etc. But that is the nature of sports, and it's why it is so alluring, especially for the perennially downtrodden such as Georgia Tech. A win Saturday won't change the world, but it will legitimize Paul Johnson as the saviour of the program, it will help in turning the tide in the recruiting wars, and it will possibly push Richt further out on the ledge. All good things for Tech. A not-so-fun fact: since I graduated in 1973 we have won only four times in Atlanta. About time.

 

[ThisIsAtlanta]

 

[stinger78]

Alot of thoughts about our program on the heels of alot of discussion and opinions.

For years, we enter the last game or two hearing "peach bowl or chikfila bowl is interested in tech, champs bowl is interested, gator bowl at the time is interested"; only to consistently, year after year lay a ööööing egg at the end of the season. For 10 years we have done this. For most of the 10 years, outside of 2 Johnson years and one Gailey we have been relegated to öööö bowls because we limp home. We finish weak. We have lost 5-6 straight at home to our rival.

This year I want to believe. I want to think PJ era is going to turn the tide a bit. Stop the losing streak at home. Win vs UGA and get a good bowl unlike practically every year prior.

Are we any different now?

I agree with Ken about techs arrogance and snobbery. Its true. Its not just in the rival with UGA. It is in general. What tech does, and its pathetic, is when our on field results are inferior, to a rival or another team, we fall back on well we are smarter than you are and your degree sucks. You know what, I want more passionate sidewalk fans with degrees from KSU and GSU etc. This has to stop. Its ridiculous and I know for a fact turns alot of people away from the school. It typifies nerd mentality. We play the game as equals on the field. We don't pull out calculus books. That öööö doesn't matter we don't start the game 7-0 because we are smarter or have a tougher school. What matters are W's and L's and we have to get our öööö right. I am an alumn, I get it, I went to Tech. I don't need to hear this that or the other about our school. I am telling you half this pussified fanbase needs to sack up. We need to stop using academics and stadium size as an excuse. Stop. It is an easy out and a ööööty excuse in an excuse ridden world. The fact is, as a program we have been inferior to UGA and our fans behave that way. Now what are we going to do about it?

Yet here we are, an administration honoring a guy who historically went out of his way to degrade our school. I still can't get this out of my mind. What are they thinking? I don't even know if its classy. I really don't. I can't believe we are doing this. I am at a loss for words. It again, goes into the direction of this administration not getting it. And if it's wes's idea, even if he was his friend, keep it there. He was NO FRIEND TO TECH. HE WAS A ööööING asshole on earth to this fanbase and school.

Can we change? This game is a turning point. Lose, PJ is 1-3 and headed down a path we have all too often lived. Win 2-2 and does the ship turn?

Is georgia tech, just going to be georgia tech for another 10 years or are we going to get our ööööing minds right as an institution, fanbase and administration?

For the life of me, I am routinely puzzled and mystified by the decisions and direction our "leadership" is taking this program. I really am. From proposals of trying to remove as much on campus tailgating as possible (perimeter deck parking and shuttle system), to honoring perhaps the biggest douche to tech since Bear Bryant, to ticket sales/concept and planning, in every which way something happens that makes me go HUH?

This saturday, has to go a long way to stop the trends. It has to. How can we change this deal? It just stinks, it smells like it has for 20 years. I don't have an answer, but by god it can't continue this way.

Happy thanksgiving and öööö UGA.

tl;dr

Happy Thanksgiving to you, too.

 

[Rodzilla]

Yet here we are, an administration honoring a guy who historically went out of his way to degrade our school. I still can't get this out of my mind. What are they thinking? I don't even know if its classy. I really don't. I can't believe we are doing this. I am at a loss for words. It again, goes into the direction of this administration not getting it. And if it's wes's idea, even if he was his friend, keep it there. He was NO FRIEND TO TECH. HE WAS A ööööING asshole on earth to this fanbase and school.

THIS, THIS, and THIS again. Write DRad to protest this (respectfully). If it happens, be there to boo it or start Good Word chants. This is as disgusting and inexcusable as changing our fight songs.

You know what? I like falling back on Tech's academics, because that's more important than the win-loss record of my football team. I still love football more than anything, and I go to as many away games as possible, but I'm not going to go through 4.5 years of mental torture and completely put it aside. It's not our attitude that turns away sidewalk fans. It's our performance on the field.

+1

I would just like to say to all Tech fans when you see a Ugay fan Saturday, don't drop your head and feel inferior to them as most of us do. Look them in the eye,acknowledge their presence and holler "Go Jackets".Be proud of you're Yellow Jacket football team. You might be surprised about how good you feel about yourself when you stare down a god damn bulldog fan!DO NOT LET THE UGAY FANS INTIMIDATE YOU!!!!! And to all the Tech players, just remember the last time Ugay came to BDS and ran all over your asses when you were really the better team, and remember the wrist bands they wore with "WE RUN THIS STATE" printed on them!!!NEVER FORGET!

**** mind rite

 

[ThisIsAtlanta]

**** mind rite

Precisely the opposite. I've never been intimidated by an idiot UGAy fan, and I don't know anybody who has. If somebody was repping their GT gear AT TECH and failed to respond with at least "to hell with georgia" to some dumb barking sack sniffer, I'd smack him in the head. Claiming that all Tech fans have some stupid self esteem problem that needs to be fixed is **** mind wrong.

 

[Rodzilla]

Precisely the opposite. I've never been intimidated by an idiot UGAy fan, and I don't know anybody who has. If somebody was repping their GT gear AT TECH and failed to respond with at least "to hell with georgia" to some dumb barking sack sniffer, I'd smack him in the head. Claiming that all Tech fans have some stupid self esteem problem that needs to be fixed is **** mind wrong.

You're right, I should've omitted the first sentence. The rest of the content is what I was talking about.

 

[BuzzCzar]

i think its part of our history to show up and be under-manned, under-sized, under-funded. and win the damn game anyways

i like being the underdog, because in life most people around you are second-rate. they are lazy, they are inattentive. they are slobs, and they are selfish and do not stand behind the higher virtues that make men special

but GT does. we ask for more

real students.
real men.
real arete

F*%K Georgie. I dont want to be anything like those atlanta high school losers with pansy ass degrees and an "im entitled" attitude. order like $30 in shots at the bar and dont tip frat boy muthaf*%kers. slutty, wish they were hot, push-up bra wearing fat bitches that dont know the difference between ganache and gnocci.

big ass stadium to fill with big asses idiots that bark like dogs? id like to put that damn stadium into Argentina circa 1980 and see how many can escape Pinochet with that SEC speed... muthaf&%kers

and yeah, get your animal husbandry degree cuz you know your wife is a damn cow stupid Mrs.-degree big udder fatty. and the "education" is already a joke but they have to dumb it down for the football players so that f*^cking Leonard Pope is an Academic All American? wtf, was he able to spell G-E-O-R-G-I-A without the help of the cheerleader that just got man-handled by their O-Line?

and Mark Richt needs to die in a fire, probably one that was caused by an electrical wiring problem in his tanning bed. I mean that guys gravestone will say "was a respected and good coach -- in Florida"

I want to keep our standards high
I want to keep our athletes being students
I want to be able to go to any Georgie alum and laugh at the fail of their pussy degrees
and then, we knock them on their asses too

thats what i want.

David against Goliath, and David carries the torch
F*&CK them and their arrogant fat heads.

If i could clone Steve Spurrier i would clone him 10,000 times and send the army of Spurriers into Athens. and the Spurriers would go to every bar, and sit there and talk about how it wasnt that big of a win, "i mean we only beat Georgia, its not like they're some great team or anything".

F*&K GEORGIE and dont change a DAMN thing about Tech. We are men that play football.

they play football, trying to be men.

F*&K Georgie!

 

[PerfectOption]

Nice use of the word "Arete," BuzzCzar.

 

[BuzzCzar]

Nice use of the word "Arete," BuzzCzar.