Players don't care....

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33jacket said:
Read past posts a few days ago. I am not sure yet how to publicly call out the issues with our program. I detailed much more in posts prior. I even openly asked for suggestions to incite enough supporters to put pressure to change some of our policies and issues and offered suggestions via pm. I did get some.

One person suggested more people in the AA would see it here than other methods. Not sure if true

Enough is enough. What we all see isn't acceptable. We can debate Symantecs of what Paul may or may not said, which loss was the worst, who quit when, but the bottom line is the program has to change top to bottom

Boy I have more stories that I will hold back on right now. Just the tip of the iceberg.
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Fair enough. And I think you are dead on with the scholarship pulling. It's one thing to pull one if we whiffed on the kid and he's just not Div 1 material. It's another thing altogether if he quits on us.

We pay your school, and you earn it by hitting the weights and the playbook and the practice field and, if you are good enough, the field. If you are unwilling to earn it then someone else more deserving will earn it.

I'm with Paul. He shouldn't have to motivate you.

Second, the hill needs to get off the AA admissions. The AA knows what GT takes, let them decide the risk level they find acceptable.

Third, we need a recruiting edge. What happened to Andre 3000? The AA needs to build a dang recording studio near or in the edge and lease it out for free perhaps. And help out with music videos. Shoot them around campus even. Also, can we interact with the Falcons more? We don't even seem to be using a tiny portion of the potential opportunities Atlanta provides.
 
33jacket said:
Read past posts a few days ago. I am not sure yet how to publicly call out the issues with our program. I detailed much more in posts prior. I even openly asked for suggestions to incite enough supporters to put pressure to change some of our policies and issues and offered suggestions via pm. I did get some.

One person suggested more people in the AA would see it here than other methods. Not sure if true

Enough is enough. What we all see isn't acceptable. We can debate Symantecs of what Paul may or may not said, which loss was the worst, who quit when, but the bottom line is the program has to change top to bottom

Boy I have more stories that I will hold back on right now. Just the tip of the iceberg.
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Spill the beans.
 
ContactBuzz said:
And it certainly doesn't help now that guys like Dwyer are tweeting that CPJ is the problem (after Sat's debacle).

You need the player-alumni behind the coach/program especially for recruiting purposes. CPJ has a tough enough time with recruiting as it is (no need to rehash all of those factors) - now he has the {most visible} ex-players and media working against him.
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screw dwyer
 
33jacket said:
Again proven. If true. Supports my point why would I spend a ---- dollar on a team that doesn't give a ----. I don't either then.
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Again, if true we need to root out such players, if getting a free world class education and opportunities to make a difference in their own futures and to represent their school with pride is not enough then we do not need them.

Harsh but I believe this to be a valid complaint that MUST change
 
aeromech said:
Reading this thread is like a flashback to the CCG days. Back in the CCG days everyone complained that TChoice was the vocal/leader motivator on the team and CCG didn't know how to motivate players. Interesting how the story repeats itself only the characters change.

The real problem with the team this year is we don't have a dominate B-back or DL. Fix those 2 things, particularly the DL (with either players, coaches or both) and we all get to be happy again.

PS. I think Dwyer's tweet was about the lack of a big b-back.
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Well if thats the case (the PS part) Dwyer is FAT and BLIND. Sims played very well!
 
GTCrew said:
Third, we need a recruiting edge. What happened to Andre 3000? The AA needs to build a dang recording studio near or in the edge and lease it out for free perhaps. And help out with music videos. Shoot them around campus even. Also, can we interact with the Falcons more? We don't even seem to be using a tiny portion of the potential opportunities Atlanta provides.
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The AA has the money to build a recording studio?
 
ramble_on92 said:
I have a mgt class with a few players and they really just seemed like they didnt care. some even said they wanted to stay after the game for the bars. they said they knew they were gonna get beat bad, and it really showed on the field. i put it on the coaching seeing as that this is probably the most hyped game of the year, our in-state rival, and the players arent motivated...what the hell.
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Well well, stay for the bars you say. Hmm. I remember a fellow named Bear Bryant that after a loss he had his boys scrimmaging that night. They knew they were going to get beat bad, well bless their little hearts because what needs to happen is for the coaching staff to find out real quick who wants to play and who is dogging it and run their asses out of here.

Muscamp had a player at Florida his first year that was caught smoking weed and laid a strenuous program for him to work his way back on the team. Said the All American "Don't you know who I am?" Yeah, says Muscamp "You used to play football for the University of Florida."
 
ramble_on92 said:
youre missing the point. i think everyone saw this loss coming a mile away, but i want the players to have at least some confidence before the game that they could pull off a big one or make it close. instead of "well lets go get slaughtered and then hit the bars".
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The coaching staff has to instill confidence, something CPJ doesn't think is important. I'm someone who would be trying to steal the basketball, down 10, with a minute left in the game. I became so pissed with losers who wouldn't commit the foul and allow someone to the basket. Same thing when I played football 20 something years ago. You just don't quit and more and more entitlement kids do. There's a whole lot of quit in those boys.

I'm all for pulling the scholarships, something Saban does. You might not like his ruthless approach, but it works.
 
artesian jacket said:
Well well, stay for the bars you say. Hmm. I remember a fellow named Bear Bryant that after a loss he had his boys scrimmaging that night. They knew they were going to get beat bad, well bless their little hearts because what needs to happen is for the coaching staff to find out real quick who wants to play and who is dogging it and run their asses out of here.

Muscamp had a player at Florida his first year that was caught smoking weed and laid a strenuous program for him to work his way back on the team. Said the All American "Don't you know who I am?" Yeah, says Muscamp "You used to play football for the University of Florida."
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Players need to understand they earn their ships by more than just showing up. Still think it's a failure of coaching and recruiting. Bafflement is weak sauce.
 
gnats67 said:
Players need to understand they earn their ships by more than just showing up. Still think it's a failure of coaching and recruiting. Bafflement is weak sauce.
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That and ships have become another entitlement for the recruited. Add it to a long list
 
There are so many people talking out of their ass on here that it is just laughable. Lots of people making ridiculous claims from some dip ---- walk-on that they overheard. But please continue.
 
Not sure if this has been discussed in this thread yet, but frankly I don't feel like reading all 16 pages.

I don't know why the "Paul to OC" thread was deleted, but this would fix the problem IMHO that the OP was referring to. Demote CPJ to OC, hire a new head coach, hire a new (not second/third tier) DC, hire new AD and implement the ---- pistol more. Vad has too good of an arm to let it get stale running the triple option all year.

How do we get the money to do all this you ask? Win the ---- ORANGE BOWL!
 
TechFan85 said:
There are so many people talking out of their ass on here that it is just laughable. Lots of people making ridiculous claims from some dip ---- walk-on that they overheard. But please continue.
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Well, 33 isn't likely to have gotten his insight from a dipshit walkon, but please continue.
 
bmeGT said:
Not sure if this has been discussed in this thread yet, but frankly I don't feel like reading all 16 pages.

I don't know why the "Paul to OC" thread was deleted, but this would fix the problem IMHO that the OP was referring to. Demote CPJ to OC, hire a new head coach, hire a new (not second/third tier) DC, hire new AD and implement the ---- pistol more. Vad has too good of an arm to let it get stale running the triple option all year.

How do we get the money to do all this you ask? Win the ---- ORANGE BOWL!
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Has a HC ever been demoted successfully?

Honest answer is we need to pay HC money for a DC IMHO. PJ will give him total D control so there is that also. Find a way to make it happen financially.
 
Look how well the Twitter ban has worked so far. I've seen tweets from Jemea Thomas, Jamal Golden, Chaz Cheeks and Tremayne McNair just today.
 
bmeGT said:
Not sure if this has been discussed in this thread yet, but frankly I don't feel like reading all 16 pages.

I don't know why the "Paul to OC" thread was deleted, but this would fix the problem IMHO that the OP was referring to. Demote CPJ to OC, hire a new head coach, hire a new (not second/third tier) DC, hire new AD and implement the ---- pistol more. Vad has too good of an arm to let it get stale running the triple option all year.

How do we get the money to do all this you ask? Win the ---- ORANGE BOWL!
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Winning the Orange Bowl gets us $0 more than losing the Humanitarian or Emerald Nuts Bowl. Your solution shows a basic lack of understanding the sharing of conference revenues.
 
beefense said:
--i find it "funny" on here when someone vents about not enough hate toward ugag- or that the team doesn't realize how big a game the rivalry is--or the coach needs to realize that the ugag game is so important---i say "funny" because this board is not even in "sync" with how big this game actually is. Some say they "rather win the div." than beat ugag--or that beating acc rivals means more--etc--etc--well to me all the other games before the ugag game are just warmups for the real game that happens at end of each season. I've been a tech fan all my life (over 60 yrs) and have "lived and died" with the outcome of this game. until all the fans feel this way and until the team feels this way, i'm afraid recent history will keep repeating itself.
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+1000
 
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