Brent Key Performance Metric Poll

How many games would Brent Key have to win to earn perm HC job?

  • 8 out of 8

  • 7 out of 8

  • 6 out of 8

  • 5 out of 8

  • 4 out of 8

  • 3 out of 8

  • Don’t want him period.

  • He should get the job regardless

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OptionJacket said:
That’s the point. Key became a joke along with clown boy by staying and cashing checks. He and Choice could have resigned together after year 1 and they would now be welcome back. As it stands, Key allowed his reputation to be sunk as You pointed out. Both he and Choice knew after about 2 weeks of practice in year 1 that this guy was a disaster. And they didn’t stop him. Cabrera is the real hero which is why he’ll still be here and everyone else will be gone in a few months.
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Man. I see what you're saying but I completely disagree.

I would respect a guy who gave up on Georgia Tech after only one year a lot less than a guy who stuck it out trying to do what he could to improve the situation at his alma mater. I don't blame Choice for leaving when he did but I would've blamed him quite a bit if he quit after only one year.

As for stopping him, I've had some bad bosses before and it's a really tough position be in, and that probably goes up by a factor of 10 when your boss is the head guy. Realistically there was not anything Key or Choice could have done to "stop him", including quitting.
 
andrew said:
Man. I see what you're saying but I completely disagree.

I would respect a guy who gave up on Georgia Tech after only one year a lot less than a guy who stuck it out trying to do what he could to improve the situation at his alma mater. I don't blame Choice for leaving when he did but I would've blamed him quite a bit if he quit after only one year.

As for stopping him, I've had some bad bosses before and it's a really tough position be in, and that probably goes up by a factor of 10 when your boss is the head guy. Realistically there was not anything Key or Choice could have done to "stop him", including quitting.
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You are certainly overthinking things. Again.
 
KrazieJacket said:
You are certainly overthinking things. Again.
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I'll admit to doing that sometimes but my thinking in this case is simple -- I wouldn't respect a guy who bailed on his alma mater after only one year and publicly trashed the first-year HC to try stop him. I'm surprised anyone would.
 
Man, you guys are a tough crowd!

Think about this.

This current GT team is at an all the time what? 50 year low? And that includes a lot of bad football teams.

And you’re telling me you would not give Key a permanent head coaching job if he won half our remaining 8 games, 1 of which couldn’t be won by
any coach unless he could disguise The Atlanta Falcons, and pass them off as GT college FB players— which is remotely feasible.

Come on!
 
andrew said:
Man. I see what you're saying but I completely disagree.

I would respect a guy who gave up on Georgia Tech after only one year a lot less than a guy who stuck it out trying to do what he could to improve the situation at his alma mater. I don't blame Choice for leaving when he did but I would've blamed him quite a bit if he quit after only one year.

As for stopping him, I've had some bad bosses before and it's a really tough position be in, and that probably goes up by a factor of 10 when your boss is the head guy. Realistically there was not anything Key or Choice could have done to "stop him", including quitting.
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But the difference between Key and guys like you and me is Key WAS a hot commodity who had worked under Saban. Him leaving after one year would have spoken volumes after a 3 win season. He would have not been unemployed like most people if they bucked their boss. I could admire him for sticking it out and trying but Collins was obviously an incompetent control freak. Any GT gtprad should have left a situation like that. Maybe Key can redeem himself but I’ll never get over seeing him stand by Collins as our program sunk to levels I never thought I’d see. Seriously, what was up with that game with Ole Miss? That was the worse performance of any GT team in any sport I’ve ever witnessed. We gave up before we left the locker room.
 
ciegetanks said:
I am beginning to wonder how much of our recent problems stem from Collins using too soft a touch and/or meddling too much with position coaches.

It is true the OL has under performed recently and that creates serious questions about Key in a more important role. However I wonder if the OL will improve.

Simple fact of that presser is that all the disappointment and ire I had for a mostly anonymous position coach melted during his presser and I am willing to step back, calm down, and evalute him again based on his performance in this unique situation.
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Maybe Collins simply cast a pall over the program by being such a dweeb in general and an incompetent game manager.
 
With no idea how the team will respond this week and with at most four days to affect any changes in “culture”, I don’t see Pitt as a likely win. The dwags are unlikely, THWG. That leaves six games with any reasonable win potential, so I’m voting five wins as a clear indicator iCBK should at least be considered.
 
No thanks…..picking off some Ws on the easier part of the schedule does nothing for me
 
Tampa Jacket said:
Man, you guys are a tough crowd!

Think about this.

This current GT team is at an all the time what? 50 year low? And that includes a lot of bad football teams.

And you’re telling me you would not give Key a permanent head coaching job if he won half our remaining 8 games, 1 of which couldn’t be won by
any coach unless he could disguise The Atlanta Falcons, and pass them off as GT college FB players— which is remotely feasible.

Come on!
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Guess in 1994 they wouldn't have give CGO the job after taking over and going 0-3.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
Man, you guys are a tough crowd!

Think about this.

This current GT team is at an all the time what? 50 year low? And that includes a lot of bad football teams.

And you’re telling me you would not give Key a permanent head coaching job if he won half our remaining 8 games, 1 of which couldn’t be won by
any coach unless he could disguise The Atlanta Falcons, and pass them off as GT college FB players— which is remotely feasible.

Come on!
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No, we are telling you that after that fails… what else are you going to try to sell?
 
KrazieJacket said:
No, we are telling you that after that fails… what else are you going to try to sell?
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I’m just trying to sell a win over 4/8 of our remaining opponents including MIA, FSU, PITT, UVA, NC, VT, Duke, UGA probably has Vegas odds of 1:10 or worse.

That’s $100 to win $1000 bet. And if any coach can do it, that’s our new HC.
 
andrew said:
I don't get the people who would want to switch coaches after a 9-3 season with a win over U[sic]GA. Those are some incredibly high standards.
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We’re still raw from 3.5 years of öööö football and Brent Key’s been a part of that “process”. Plus the OL has been one of the problems contributing to that. We need a clean break. But having said that, Key might be a better head coach than he’s been an OL coach and if we miraculously go 9-3, most people would be on board.
 
KrazieJacket said:
I’m just trying to tell the truth and not continue GT sucking.
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I understand that lots of fans don't care for Key after the play of the OL. But maybe the OL play was do to the way CGC had practice set up. Key is our head coach for the next 8 games. Lets see how we play after those 8 games we will know more.
 
I voted 8 of 8 because that would surely get me to reconsider.
I prefer a clean house from all the clown stains.Let the new coach pick his staff.
OL performance plus 0-11 as the UCF OC tells me he's not ready for a P5 HC job.
i expect some wins but would expect that from anyone.
key sounded like he wants to a normal coach which is a relief but not enough.
I could reconsider further depending on how the season progresses.
THWG..Go Jackets!
 
stech81 said:
I understand that lots of fans don't care for Key after the play of the OL. But maybe the OL play was do to the way CGC had practice set up. Key is our head coach for the next 8 games. Lets see how we play after those 8 games we will know more.
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I’ve seen enough from his body of work. His time at GT with Collins isn’t all most are considering.
 
stech81 said:
I understand that lots of fans don't care for Key after the play of the OL. But maybe the OL play was do to the way CGC had practice set up. Key is our head coach for the next 8 games. Lets see how we play after those 8 games we will know more.
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I don’t like Brent Key because he trashed our program while recruiting against us. Legitimately torpedoed several recruits away from GT not even to his school. With the main reason being the same as all the former players: his ego couldn’t handle being associated with an option school.
 
The Coastal is weak enough to where we could win 3 or 4 games. However; that does not equate to Key being a good head coach., As far as I am concerned, if you cannot coach a specific part of a team very well, you should not be the coach of an overall system. He should kick rocks, just like every other coach on this team, after this season.
 
Not sure if anyone has said this yet.

I think we may have found our Kirby, BUT he came back too early and made a huge mistake in joining Collins staff. I want Key to succeed but he needs to join a top tier coaches staff to learn and grow. Maybe in 4-6 years after our next coach has either been fired or took an SEC job because he overachieved, Key comes back to the flats.
 
CoachTech said:
Not sure if anyone has said this yet.

I think we may have found our Kirby, BUT he came back too early and made a huge mistake in joining Collins staff. I want Key to succeed but he needs to join a top tier coaches staff to learn and grow. Maybe in 4-6 years after our next coach has either been fired or took an SEC job because he overachieved, Key comes back to the flats.
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When we move to the Big Ten a coach will not have a reason to leave for “the big time” and we will be able to afford him.
 
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