C J Jackson decommitted?

gambler said:
*Through 5 games.

Add any type of conference championship or a decent bowl and I bet you it's over 900. Regardless, their HC is a free hire for them at this point....for about the next 3 years.
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No those are the estimates for the year.
 
GoGATech said:
Where did you get that figure from?

Here are figures from USA today:

$20 million increase in ticket sales
$8 million increase in donations
$3 million increase in "other" categories
$249 "potential estimated" increase from media exposure

That's $280 million, 89% of which is "estimated" and while not a number to bat an eye at, it is far from $900 million. Also, all that money walks away as soon as Deion does. Deion is a polarizing figure that has a large media presence. Nobody else would gain the following he did. There's no "blueprint" of how to do it.
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$249 part is only on paper, and would materialize as a much smaller figure in the next few years. It could potentially amount to almost nothing, especially if Deion leaves...
 
GoGATech said:
It was also never about money for not hiring Deion here. The school wasn't going to do what they did at Colorado to get all those guys in.
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Exactly.

College football’s most electric coaching candidate, the Hall of Fame player now known as “Coach Prime,” almost certainly wouldn’t have taken his talents to Boulder without a thorough review and rewriting of admissions rules at Colorado, an area in which the Buffs struggled to adapt to the new realities of the transfer portal.
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And gone is the old system that was a losing proposition for Sanders’ predecessor, Karl Dorrell, who not only struggled bringing in big-name players from the transfer portal due to the obstacles at CU, but also lost numerous playmakers that way. Dorrell was dismissed in October following an 0-5 start.
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apnews.com

New admission rules could spark 'Prime Time' at Colorado

BOULDER, Colo. (AP) — As much as facilities, Folsom Field or the allure of trying to pull off a seemingly impossible rebuild, it was likely the fine print that brought Deion Sanders to Colorado.
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I am ok with GT not following that 'blueprint'.
 
aeromech said:
Exactly.





apnews.com

New admission rules could spark 'Prime Time' at Colorado

BOULDER, Colo. (AP) — As much as facilities, Folsom Field or the allure of trying to pull off a seemingly impossible rebuild, it was likely the fine print that brought Deion Sanders to Colorado.
apnews.com apnews.com

I am ok with GT not following that 'blueprint'.
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I'm curious as to why. Do you think rewriting those rules hurt the value of the degree of the typical CU student or graduate?
 
GoGATech said:
It was also never about money for not hiring Deion here. The school wasn't going to do what they did at Colorado to get all those guys in.
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What we need is a coach that will bring energy to the program. I don’t and didn’t care who it was.

We didn’t have to get Deion or the guys Deion got, but to say we couldn’t get many guys is a stretch. There’s plenty of football players that can hack our easy majors. We also did not need as many guys as Colorado because our talent level was higher.

The way Key became coach did him no favors. Yeah, we didn’t get who we wanted but here’s Key, he’s a loyal GT Man and he’ll do ok enough. Now almost feel like the tire is flat already and Key’s just getting started. The lack of drive and determination against Bowling Green really isn’t sitting well with me. Get your ass kicked, ok, but damn you better go down swinging.

Tomorrow night is Miami. We had better play wire to wire otherwise I’m done with Key.
 
Liberty said:
What we need is a coach that will bring energy to the program. I don’t and didn’t care who it was.

We didn’t have to get Deion or the guys Deion got, but to say we couldn’t get many guys is a stretch. There’s plenty of football players that can hack our easy majors. We also did not need as many guys as Colorado because our talent level was higher.

The way Key became coach did him no favors. Yeah, we didn’t get who we wanted but here’s Key, he’s a loyal GT Man and he’ll do ok enough. Now almost feel like the tire is flat already and Key’s just getting started. The lack of drive and determination against Bowling Green really isn’t sitting well with me. Get your ass kicked, ok, but damn you better go down swinging.

Tomorrow night is Miami. We had better play wire to wire otherwise I’m done with Key.
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Yeah. The more time passes, the more I think the BG loss was a deep indictment of the state of our program and of Key himself. It is extremely disturbing and disheartening.
 
GoGATech said:
Where did you get that figure from?

Here are figures from USA today:

$20 million increase in ticket sales
$8 million increase in donations
$3 million increase in "other" categories
$249 "potential estimated" increase from media exposure

That's $280 million, 89% of which is "estimated" and while not a number to bat an eye at, it is far from $900 million. Also, all that money walks away as soon as Deion does. Deion is a polarizing figure that has a large media presence. Nobody else would gain the following he did. There's no "blueprint" of how to do it.
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I went back and listened to the interview on XM Radio “Full Ride” and you’re correct with the current figure. The $900 million was a projection for the remainder of the year plus going to the B12 starting in 2024.
 
GTLiebs said:
It WAS about facilities when Oregon started that. Then NIL switched on and you can throw money directly at the players instead of burning cash in front of them to have the warmth win them over. Facilities probably still help, but which do you think a high school would choose: an in-house barber shop or $100k a year?
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Well, the reality is for most mid to upper level P5 programs in each conference both facilities and NIL apply. I mean, look at a middle tier program like South Carolina for example.
 
GT98 said:
I don't think a "futbol model" of relegation (or promotion) is coming. I think that it is much more likely that the Big 10/SEC create a made for TV superleague of 26-30 teams and the rest of Div. 1 does something else. Those schools wouldn't have to share any of the TV money at that point.
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Same thing was said about conference expansion, NIL and pay for play at one time. Think about relegation for a moment. It doesn’t have to be for anything except for CFB. So an example of conference partners would look like this:

SEC - Sun Belt
B1G - MAC
ACC - CUSA
B12 - AAC
P12 - MW

Its made for TV late season matchups that would create sold out lower tier bowls as for example SEC #16 Vandy & ACC #16 UVA are being relegated and the top 2 Sun Belt, MAC etc are playing to be promoted into the P5 conference which will provide all the additional $$$ and opportunities to remain. While the current P5 programs (Vandy, UVA, etc) will have reevaluate the commitment to get back into the P5. This will eventually show who really wants to be a competitive program or not as time goes on. It will show who really has the backing of the school itself.

Keep in mind, the P2 & MW have supposedly already been in talks to do this.
 
GoGATech said:
Where did you get that figure from?

Here are figures from USA today:

$20 million increase in ticket sales
$8 million increase in donations
$3 million increase in "other" categories
$249 "potential estimated" increase from media exposure

That's $280 million, 89% of which is "estimated" and while not a number to bat an eye at, it is far from $900 million. Also, all that money walks away as soon as Deion does. Deion is a polarizing figure that has a large media presence. Nobody else would gain the following he did. There's no "blueprint" of how to do it.
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Check your math.
$20M + $8M + $3M + $249 = $31,000,249.
 
covingtonjacket said:
I'm curious as to why. Do you think rewriting those rules hurt the value of the degree of the typical CU student or graduate?
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Guess it depends on whether you think watering down the academic standards for the entire university so you are more competitive in sports impacts the value of the degree of the typical student I guess. I don't look at the UNC degrees the same anymore; but maybe that is just me and a handful of others. Alabama grades on a 4.33 scale instead of a 4.0 scale, so when I see a high GPA from a Bama grad I don't take it seriously.
 
USCJacket said:
Same thing was said about conference expansion, NIL and pay for play at one time. Think about relegation for a moment. It doesn’t have to be for anything except for CFB. So an example of conference partners would look like this:

SEC - Sun Belt
B1G - MAC
ACC - CUSA
B12 - AAC
P12 - MW

Its made for TV late season matchups that would create sold out lower tier bowls as for example SEC #16 Vandy & ACC #16 UVA are being relegated and the top 2 Sun Belt, MAC etc are playing to be promoted into the P5 conference which will provide all the additional $$$ and opportunities to remain. While the current P5 programs (Vandy, UVA, etc) will have reevaluate the commitment to get back into the P5. This will eventually show who really wants to be a competitive program or not as time goes on. It will show who really has the backing of the school itself.

Keep in mind, the P2 & MW have supposedly already been in talks to do this.
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Those leagues base relegation & promotion on about 3x as many games as you have during a college football season. A single down day has far less impact in a 36 match soccer season compared to a 12 game football season. And the FA's relegation/promotion system only deals with a single sport. You going to move Duke to CUSA after a bad football season and keep them ACC during basketball season? Move GT to CUSA for basketball and keep us ACC for football (assuming we get back on track)? Member schools would hate that. Rivalries in multiple sports are part of the fun with college teams.
 
gojkts said:
Those leagues base relegation & promotion on about 3x as many games as you have during a college football season. A single down day has far less impact in a 36 match soccer season compared to a 12 game football season. And the FA's relegation/promotion system only deals with a single sport. You going to move Duke to CUSA after a bad football season and keep them ACC during basketball season? Move GT to CUSA for basketball and keep us ACC for football (assuming we get back on track)? Member schools would hate that. Rivalries in multiple sports are part of the fun with college teams.
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That’s what’s being thrown out there and discussed per all rumors. Promotion/relegation is only for CFB. CBB, etc does not make much of a financial impact, and if you look today we already see programs in conferences only for a particular sport.

Football:
ND (Independent/ACC hoops)
UCONN (Independent/BE hoops)
Navy (AAC/Patriot League hoops)
Army (Independent/Patriot League hoops)

Truthfully what does any of the following bring for football? Vandy to the SEC? IU, NW for the B1G? ISU for the B12? UVA for the ACC? Cal for the P12 (current) ACC in 2024?

You can take the following for example in 2024 for each league and see an upgrade on the football field:

ACC:
Promoted from CUSA: Liberty
Relegated to CUSA: UVA

B12:
Promoted from AAC: Tulane
Relegated to AAC: ISU

B1G
Promoted from MAC: Toledo
Relegated to the MAC: NW

SEC:
Promoted to SEC: James Madison
Relegated to Sunbelt: Vandy
 
I find the “nobody cares about education” statement to be disingenuous. We don’t care about education and we want players who can play football so we can hang with the likes of uga, Clemson and fsu. I’m watching Cornell vs Harvard on ESPN 2 right now and I see a lot of players who care about education. We don’t want that. We just don’t want to adapt to the changing landscape and then complain about how we can’t sell studs who have NFL on their mind on a 4 year degree. Come on man.
 
Liberty said:
The way Key became coach did him no favors. Yeah, we didn’t get who we wanted but here’s Key, he’s a loyal GT Man and he’ll do ok enough. Now almost feel like the tire is flat already and Key’s just getting started. The lack of drive and determination against Bowling Green really isn’t sitting well with me. Get your ass kicked, ok, but damn you better go down swinging.
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I'm with you brother. It is one thing to lose a game to a mediocre MAC team because you made some mistakes or BG pulled off some amazing plays (the one handed catch in the end zone was pretty amazing), but to be out played, get your ass handed to you by a mediocre MAC team is just something else entirely. This doesn't sit well with me at all. This is one of those fire the whole tainted staff moments to me. I hate to hold one game against someone but this dude was clown's #1 assistant and this game reeked of the clown show. Tech ain't ever gonna be nothing (double negative intended for all you grammar nerds) with this staff. This won't be the only defection.

Also this is the most depressing thread ever. So many excuses. We might as well stick a fork in it then because Tech is done, finished, finito. Got no money, no fans, no billionaires throwing their chips in. We are all just wasting our time wringing our hands over this. There was a wise man that once said, it is what it is.
 
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