C J Jackson decommitted?

GT98 said:
Can GT afford the amount of $ he is looking for? If it's a bidding war, I think we know how this plays out.

I see the GTAA wasting $ on the Edge Building. Should be directed to buying the best O & D linemen that they can afford instead. Winning will sell more tickets, a new Edge Building won't do as much for the program that feels like it is on life support right now.
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And why can’t GT do both like other schools around them and across the country? It’s not all about NIL, it’s about facilities which has been what helped jump start Oregon into what they are now. Ahead of the curve.
 
USCJacket said:
And why can’t GT do both like other schools around them and across the country? It’s not all about NIL, it’s about facilities which has been what helped jump start Oregon into what they are now. Ahead of the curve.
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Is your question rhetorical? GT cannot do both. Using Oregon as an example isn't good as they have been good to excellent over the last 20 years save a season here or there.

I don't think that the average GT fan fully grasps what TDope and Goof did to the program. Fan support is the lowest it's been in my 24 years of season tickets. Stadium is less than half full. The fanbase is shrinking. Add in the evil empire in athens at an all-time high and you have little in the way of sidewalk fan support or interest locally.

The NIL is at least 80-90% of it. The new reality of the top recruits going for the money (the majority of them) and it is a difficult road for GT given its notoriously cheap supporters.
 
infinijacket said:
Money, contributions, no Phil knight.
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Next step then is to take a page out of Colorado’s book now that the results financially are in. Colorado has made est $900 million off Deion.

GT needs to go throw the brinks truck at ex Tom Brady, Manning, (doubt either want to coach, just examples) etc. Get a former NFL HOF player as the HC. I know easier said than done, but you get my point.
 
USCJacket said:
Colorado has made est $900 million off Deion.
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Incredible. Doesn't matter if Deion flames out or jumps to another gig in a year or two. Colorado will be better off and have $ and interest to go and hire a really good coach if the Deion show moves to another town.
 
GT98 said:
Is your question rhetorical? GT cannot do both. Using Oregon as an example isn't good as they have been good to excellent over the last 20 years save a season here or there.

I don't think that the average GT fan fully grasps what TDope and Goof did to the program. Fan support is the lowest it's been in my 24 years of season tickets. Stadium is less than half full. The fanbase is shrinking. Add in the evil empire in athens at an all-time high and you have little in the way of sidewalk fan support or interest locally.

The NIL is at least 80-90% of it. The new reality of the top recruits going for the money (the majority of them) and it is a difficult road for GT given its notoriously cheap supporters.
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You can’t blame everything on one bad coaching move. This has been a GT issue (fan support) my entire life. Don’t act like the stands were full every game under GOL, CCG or CPJ. Yes. By far the last 5 years have made things even worse.

A majority of GT’s issues are GT self inflicted wounds that go back long before NIL was even thought of.

You either adapt or get left behind. And for as much as people don’t think CFB relegation is coming, it certainly is coming within the next 5 years. Wes Durham even talked about that this week hearing more and more talk about it between conferences, which is why NBC is now interested in getting involved postseason CFB.
 
USCJacket said:
You can’t blame everything on one bad coaching move. This has been a GT issue (fan support) my entire life. Don’t act like the stands were full every game under GOL, CCG or CPJ. Yes. By far the last 5 years have made things even worse.

A majority of GT’s issues are GT self inflicted wounds that go back long before NIL was even thought of.

You either adapt or get left behind. And for as much as people don’t think CFB relegation is coming, it certainly is coming within the next 5 years. Wes Durham even talked about that this week hearing more and more talk about it between conferences, which is why NBC is now interested in getting involved postseason CFB.
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And I'm certainly not. While the stands weren't full for each game under the three previous coaches, they were a MULTIPLE of attendance now and J Batt would commit crimes to sell that many tickets (45kish) for each home game.

Almost all of GT's issues are self inflicted. GT has had a series of poor hires as AD's (Braine, MBoob) and clueless schools prez's (Clough) to grossly incompetent ones (Peterson). It's a minor miracle that they have had any success at all.

What feels different now is that with the bidding out in the open, I'm not sure how GT really competes with that, even if the GTAA and school were working in tandem and maximizing what they can do.

I don't think a "futbol model" of relegation (or promotion) is coming. I think that it is much more likely that the Big 10/SEC create a made for TV superleague of 26-30 teams and the rest of Div. 1 does something else. Those schools wouldn't have to share any of the TV money at that point.
 
GT98 said:
And I'm certainly not. While the stands weren't full for each game under the three previous coaches, they were a MULTIPLE of attendance now and J Batt would commit crimes to sell that many tickets (45kish) for each home game.

Almost all of GT's issues are self inflicted. GT has had a series of poor hires as AD's (Braine, MBoob) and clueless schools prez's (Clough) to grossly incompetent ones (Peterson). It's a minor miracle that they have had any success at all.

What feels different now is that with the bidding out in the open, I'm not sure how GT really competes with that, even if the GTAA and school were working in tandem and maximizing what they can do.

I don't think a "futbol model" of relegation (or promotion) is coming. I think that it is much more likely that the Big 10/SEC create a made for TV superleague of 26-30 teams and the rest of Div. 1 does something else. Those schools wouldn't have to share any of the TV money at that point.
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I would bless the day that happens!

The current iteration of college football just really sucks, IMHO. I have very little interest in it with the sham paying of players is reviving up to the fullest. It’s getting like pro ball with no contact over 1-year and players hopping all over to the highest bidder. It’s literally the worst of both worlds. You couldn’t intentionally make it worse if you tried.

Now it’s entering HS ball. It’s a symptom of a sick society, IMPO, that we’d rather the millions go to football facilities and trucks for the juveniles than to things like cancer research programs and technologies that help mankind.

Football is a flipping game, for Pete sake!
 
GT98 said:
Incredible. Doesn't matter if Deion flames out or jumps to another gig in a year or two. Colorado will be better off and have $ and interest to go and hire a really good coach if the Deion show moves to another town.
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That’s why it’s so laughable the “GT can’t afford……” comments continue to perpetuate. It’s as if nobody has ever run a business, served at a high level making strategic decisions. We couldn’t “afford
to pass on …….”. Take your pick on the name, Deion had the highest payoff potential, but plenty of other options could have moved the needle. We picked the leave it be option and now have to hope Key has it so we can eke out another $2-3M per year to pay off our $300M in debt in another 150 years.
 
Liberty said:
That’s why it’s so laughable the “GT can’t afford……” comments continue to perpetuate. It’s as if nobody has ever run a business, served at a high level making strategic decisions. We couldn’t “afford
to pass on …….”. Take your pick on the name, Deion had the highest payoff potential, but plenty of other options could have moved the needle. We picked the leave it be option and now have to hope Key has it so we can eke out another $2-3M per year to pay off our $300M in debt in another 150 years.
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Colorado said they couldnt afford him when they signed him...said theyd make it work and did
 
USCJacket said:
And why can’t GT do both like other schools around them and across the country? It’s not all about NIL, it’s about facilities which has been what helped jump start Oregon into what they are now. Ahead of the curve.
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It WAS about facilities when Oregon started that. Then NIL switched on and you can throw money directly at the players instead of burning cash in front of them to have the warmth win them over. Facilities probably still help, but which do you think a high school would choose: an in-house barber shop or $100k a year?
 
What Colorado did will turn into the blueprint for coaching hires going forward (massively overpaying for a big splash hire hoping it pays off). It worked for them... they had no way of paying Deion until after he was hired and their fans responded with sellouts for the season. Batt was way too conservative with the hire... that or we had like 0 interest in the job. Hell, I would rather have saw Jason Brown given a shot than another year of Collins/Key and the leftover bunch.
 
Would like to ask one question about Coach Prime and his roster turn over.

How many of the players that he brought into CU would be able to get into, or stay in, Tech for more than the first semester?

If the number is greater that 90%, then there is a position to be held. If it is less, then maybe want a wonderful thought! (note: Never said it was the best of thoughts).
 
jkernea said:
What Colorado did will turn into the blueprint for coaching hires going forward (massively overpaying for a big splash hire hoping it pays off). It worked for them... they had no way of paying Deion until after he was hired and their fans responded with sellouts for the season. Batt was way too conservative with the hire... that or we had like 0 interest in the job. Hell, I would rather have saw Jason Brown given a shot than another year of Collins/Key and the leftover bunch.
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There's only one Deion...
 
USCJacket said:
Next step then is to take a page out of Colorado’s book now that the results financially are in. Colorado has made est $900 million off Deion.

GT needs to go throw the brinks truck at ex Tom Brady, Manning, (doubt either want to coach, just examples) etc. Get a former NFL HOF player as the HC. I know easier said than done, but you get my point.
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Where did you get that figure from?

Here are figures from USA today:

$20 million increase in ticket sales
$8 million increase in donations
$3 million increase in "other" categories
$249 "potential estimated" increase from media exposure

That's $280 million, 89% of which is "estimated" and while not a number to bat an eye at, it is far from $900 million. Also, all that money walks away as soon as Deion does. Deion is a polarizing figure that has a large media presence. Nobody else would gain the following he did. There's no "blueprint" of how to do it.
 
GoGATech said:
Where did you get that figure from?

Here are figures from USA today:

$20 million increase in ticket sales
$8 million increase in donations
$3 million increase in "other" categories
$249 "potential estimated" increase from media exposure

That's $280 million, 89% of which is "estimated" and while not a number to bat an eye at, it is far from $900 million. Also, all that money walks away as soon as Deion does. Deion is a polarizing figure that has a large media presence. Nobody else would gain the following he did. There's no "blueprint" of how to do it.
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*Through 5 games.

Add any type of conference championship or a decent bowl and I bet you it's over 900. Regardless, their HC is a free hire for them at this point....for about the next 3 years.
 
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