Catchall Deion Sanders Thread

However, the idiots posting here that want to give every coach we hire 5 years to show results, then turn around and roast the buffs after they have won 400% more than they did last year, and beaten ranked teams, and played some close games have to be eating some mercury laden crawfish or something.

If you are going to discount wins like TCU, you also have to discount wins like Miami, and UNC because they were overrated. It just doesn't make any sense and I feel like some of you have been replaced by your wives on this board because your logic is broken AF.
OK so let’s make this clear for you. Colorado has beaten ZERO ranked teams. Let’s count that again for you. ZERO. TCU will more than likely finish 5-7 at best. Preseason rankings are garbage. Moral victory losses are now what you’re going for? Wow. They played USC with absolutely no defense close after USC almost blew a 28 point lead. Sound familiar? Colorado in fact blew a 28 point lead and lost to STANFORD. Enough said.

Colorado has nothing close to a UNC or Miami win. And just so you know, UNC is now back into the Top 25 at #23. Colorado has beaten 1 team with a winning record (5-4 Nebraska) who lost to Michigan State yesterday. That’s embarrassing in itself.

If Colorado can beat a red hot #24 Arizona next weekend, then Colorado has 1 win as something to compare to win wise.
 
I have a special place in my heart for Colorado and everyone associated with that ööööing POS team. Sal's still dead, BTW, surprised they aren't still getting #1 AP votes off his grave.
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-7 yards rushing is getting your ass kicked.
But when Colorado beat national powerhouse TCU they were CFP bound. Oh TCU is mediocre and will be lucky to make a bowl game? But they beat Nebraska and mighty CSU….Nebraska lost to Michigan State yesterday. Enough said.

Playing close games in CFB this year is the norm. The Portal has brought the lower tier closer to the middle tier, middle tier closer to the higher tier, higher tier closer to the elite tier. There is at least 1-2 more years of this with the free COVID year + RS year.

Last year Colorado lost ten games by more than 20 points. So for them, just getting to the norm of playing ranked teams close is a success.

Don't get me wrong. The hype around Deion, much of which he built himself, was ridiculous and unwarranted. But if I'm a longtime Colorado football fan trying to see through the noise, this season is a big step forward and there's encouraging signs for next year.
 
This thread is so full of hypocritical öööö talkers. Nobody in Deion's camp ever claimed they would be worldbeaters this year. If you had half a brain you would never jump on that bandwagon, his confidence is his MO and to get the players there he wants they have to sell that. Anybody who thought he would win out is a sidewalk fan that doesn't know anything about football.

No coach in his right mind is gonna walk into a program and say "we're probably in for a 5 win season, that's why you're paying me 10 million." Absolutely asinine that anybody is talking about Deion's attitude, he is doing just as any intelligent cfb fan knew he would this year, and I guarantee you the buffs program knew also.

I'm sure he has plenty of motives that are personal and goals like that are what drive a man. If you don't like that it probably explains why you haven't gotten a raise in the last 3 years or why you are sitting at home with your midget porn.

However, the idiots posting here that want to give every coach we hire 5 years to show results, then turn around and roast the buffs after they have won 400% more than they did last year, and beaten ranked teams, and played some close games have to be eating some mercury laden crawfish or something.

If you are going to discount wins like TCU, you also have to discount wins like Miami, and UNC because they were overrated. It just doesn't make any sense and I feel like some of you have been replaced by your wives on this board because your logic is broken AF.
I’d be more inclined to hear about his 400% more wins over last season as a clear marker for his prowess and indication of trajectory if he did it with mostly the same players. Flipping the entire roster degrades the year over year comparison from a pure coaching perspective. Recruitment is an integral part of coaching today but it’s not the proverbial whole enchilada.
 
Last year Colorado lost ten games by more than 20 points. So for them, just getting to the norm of playing ranked teams close is a success.

Don't get me wrong. The hype around Deion, much of which he built himself, was ridiculous and unwarranted. But if I'm a longtime Colorado football fan trying to see through the noise, this season is a big step forward and there's encouraging signs for next year.
Those encouraging signs for next year might all evaporate if this month goes off the rails.
 
Where are the 8-9 wins next year? It’s comical how some people spout BS without looking at the schedule.

Ugh. Nobody on that schedule is a power house. Assuming he is able to reload and retool through the portal, all of those teams are beatable. He isf he doesn’t recruit impact transfers and up level his talent, i agree That winning 8-9 is unlikely.
 
Last year Colorado lost ten games by more than 20 points. So for them, just getting to the norm of playing ranked teams close is a success.

Don't get me wrong. The hype around Deion, much of which he built himself, was ridiculous and unwarranted. But if I'm a longtime Colorado football fan trying to see through the noise, this season is a big step forward and there's encouraging signs for next year.
Lots of teams make big steps forward. Flogging your dong over Deion being a bad to mediocre coach and using every excuse to prop him up is the moronic part.

Yes, Colorado was bad last season. It is typical Colorado. They won 10 less than a decade ago after winning only 2 a few years before. Was that a great turnaround also? They went right back to mediocrity.

Deion has done an awful job as a head coach. Maybe a D level job. He has plenty of talent on his squad and is somehow being given the "one recruiting class" excuse. He didn't say, at any point, he was going to do anything but win and he brought his players to do it.

His kid? NFL bound QB. His other kid? Hard hitting NFL style LB. Hunter? One of TWO Heisman candidates on the team, according to early season claims. His players? Brought with him. He made a huge social media deal about throwing away the players on Colorado's team and bringing in his players.

This is Deion's team. There is NO excuse for him being this ööööty of a coach with a mediocre record, but, we have fanbois on here who cannot and will not admit they were wrong and are just offering excuses at this point.
 
Ugh. Nobody on that schedule is a power house. Assuming he is able to reload and retool through the portal, all of those teams are beatable. He isf he doesn’t recruit impact transfers and up level his talent, i agree That winning 8-9 is unlikely.
Gonna need a new OL, if he follows through with his "new players" promise. That will give the Deion cheerleaders another year's worth of excuses.
To his advantage, the Big 12 will be a step above the AAC or MAC or Sunbelt so maybe he can just put skill player those schools.
 
Gonna need a new OL, if he follows through with his "new players" promise. That will give the Deion cheerleaders another year's worth of excuses.
To his advantage, the Big 12 will be a step above the AAC or MAC or Sunbelt so maybe he can just put skill player those schools.
Let’s not jump to conclusions here about the “new” B12. OU has been derailed by KU, OSU the last 2 weeks. Texas hasn’t won anything yet in the final year as a B12 member. I mean, it’s not like the ACC is proving to be a juggernaut either. Down to 3 ranked teams now, with UNC reentering the Top 25 after beating mighty Campbell. The ACC / B12 are a distant 3rd and 4th going forward, fighting one another for 3rd.

The B12 next year has some quality teams in Utah, KSU, OSU, Arizona, Kansas. WVU has to prove some staying power. Baylor, TT, BYU, TCU, etc on down to UCF can all quickly take a leap up. Then add in whatever Deion does with the roster management at Colorado.
 
OK so let’s make this clear for you. Colorado has beaten ZERO ranked teams. Let’s count that again for you. ZERO. TCU will more than likely finish 5-7 at best. Preseason rankings are garbage. Moral victory losses are now what you’re going for? Wow. They played USC with absolutely no defense close after USC almost blew a 28 point lead. Sound familiar? Colorado in fact blew a 28 point lead and lost to STANFORD. Enough said.

Colorado has nothing close to a UNC or Miami win. And just so you know, UNC is now back into the Top 25 at #23. Colorado has beaten 1 team with a winning record (5-4 Nebraska) who lost to Michigan State yesterday. That’s embarrassing in itself.

If Colorado can beat a red hot #24 Arizona next weekend, then Colorado has 1 win as something to compare to win wise.

Yep it's crystal clear that this is the kind of feminine logic I'm talking about. You're cherry picking who is ranked what on what week. Either you take the ranking at the time of the contest, or you keep your trap shut and wait till the end of the season. UNC could just as easily fall back out of the 25 as they fell in.

So if UNC loses out how good was that win? Wins are wins. Anyone wanting to ride the quality win and quality loss train around can jump on that SEC bandwagon of dick that the mutts ride on every year. Play in an easy side of the conference annually, save your injuries, save your record, go to a championship. It's how it is and how it's been for awhile now.

Colorado is vastly improved from last year. There is 0 debate about that because the naysayers have no evidence. Colorado is in an infinitely better financial situation than they have been for 20 years, and there is 0 debate about that.

So Deion delivers in both those arenas and the critics have been wrong on that front. The only ammo you jackasses have left to spew is; 1) they won't continue to get better. 2) Deion is going to leave the program in a disaster when he heads out.

These are both completely theoretical and you don't have any basis other than you feel that way which is fine, you can have your own opinion. So all I have to do is counter with my own opinion of:

1) I feel they will continue to improve and based on the current trajectory it seems more likely than what you're talking about. There's also no requirement to win a national championship for this to be considered a huge success. That or a new Year's bowl would just be confirmation.

2) Even if he does leave the program in a depleted state, it has already been restructured and is in a better position to achieve success than it was when he arrived. I highly doubt that Colorado is going to be worse financially than when Deion was hired which would actually make his hiring a success because it didn't get worse at any point during his tenure.

For these last two talking points we will just have to wait and see because you don't have a crystal ball and if you do you're being a dick by not sharing it. If Colorado doesn't get better, or Deion destroys the program, I will be the first one here to eat crow. However, If he doesn't then I'll be here waiting to take your mother as my prize...for the second time.
 
Let’s not jump to conclusions here about the “new” B12. OU has been derailed by KU, OSU the last 2 weeks. Texas hasn’t won anything yet in the final year as a B12 member. I mean, it’s not like the ACC is proving to be a juggernaut either. Down to 3 ranked teams now, with UNC reentering the Top 25 after beating mighty Campbell. The ACC / B12 are a distant 3rd and 4th going forward, fighting one another for 3rd.

The B12 next year has some quality teams in Utah, KSU, OSU, Arizona, Kansas. WVU has to prove some staying power. Baylor, TT, BYU, TCU, etc on down to UCF can all quickly take a leap up. Then add in whatever Deion does with the roster management at Colorado.
Yea, OSU beating them is a once in a lifetime win, not a trend. OU has 90+ wins against them all time.
That is a league of leftovers. The only reason why it is still a league is because the Pac12 ööööed up their negotiations by having a commissioner worse that Swofford
 
I’d be more inclined to hear about his 400% more wins over last season as a clear marker for his prowess and indication of trajectory if he did it with mostly the same players. Flipping the entire roster degrades the year over year comparison from a pure coaching perspective. Recruitment is an integral part of coaching today but it’s not the proverbial whole enchilada.

That might be your requirement but that doesn't make it any less of a slippery slope argument. If he flips the roster and wins out, then he only wins because of his players not because he is a good coach. But now he flips the roster and doesn't automatically win out but it's because of him and not the players? Another broken double spoken position.

I think the majority of people don't expect a coach to walk in year 1 and run the tables. Even with the most loaded roster, there is value in team chemistry and repetitions. It might be why schools redshirt, or why the QB is usually an upperclassmen.

If winning > last year isn't a barometer for success, then you sure have a jacked up definition. I haven't checked your post history but if I have to guess, you weren't happy with one of the most winning coaches ever on the flats and supported change which segued us to the air we're currently in and have been experiencing for the last several years. I hope I'm wrong about that.
 
Yea, OSU beating them is a once in a lifetime win, not a trend. OU has 90+ wins against them all time.
That is a league of leftovers. The only reason why it is still a league is because the Pac12 ööööed up their negotiations by having a commissioner worse that Swofford
OSU finished the series against OU by winning 2/3. 2021, 2023.

And what the hell exactly is the ACC?!?! A bunch of former Big East hoops programs + Miami, VT. Now the ACC has gone 1 step further with head scratching additions by taking the 2 bottom feeder P12 football programs in Stanford and Cal, along with AAC SMU.

The B12 at least was proactive enough to take the better programs left from the P12 and ensure a majority of the league is relatively close to one another outside of Cincy, UCF, WVU. All 3 of those programs make much more sense to be in the ACC over Stanford, Cal, SMU. Oh but you know, academics mean so much to TV networks assigning TV times. Oh wait…..
 
Don’t we play a home and away series against them in a couple years? Hopefully we can settle this Key vs. Prime debate once and for all.
 
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Some of you are morons. This was always the likely result, to win 5 or 6 this year, 8 or 9 next year when they have another reload in the portal. They won 1 last year.

At Jackson state they were just above .500 the first year, then went 11-2, 12-1.
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I'm not one of those running Prime down - I give him credit for admitting mistakes and improving a 1-11 team to respectability. Plus has brought in a ton of money. He would have been interesting here.

As for his son, he did a little better in the second half. But I do think the school yard ball will not work. He is a good QB with a good arm but needs to give up impromptu. It's true he has terrible blocking but the answer is throw it away when rushed, not run backwards or heave up a prayer.
 
Don’t we play a home and away series against them in a couple years? Hopefully we can settle this Key vs. Prime debate once and for all.

Deion's as likely as not to be retired after Shedeur goes in the 6th round to Detroit.
 
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