Dems..Please confirm this....

:laugher: that's all i'm doing too Money, refresh button every 30 sec

Same here as well....like it matters if I am the first to know & heaven forbid I read about it in the paper tomorrow....Man I wish it would end soon w/ the best person in place...b/c I would like to get my life back to normal......ha ha ha:laugher::fingersx:
 
Edsall's the coach that wanted to come back. If it was Fridge, I'd have to think we'd take him pretty quickly.

Personally I like what I'm seeing. I like the final five, so far (it'll change tomorrow). Some of those guys are growing on me.

I will say that Tech football was at his highest point, post Al Gore's invention of the internet, when insiders (and O'Leary IMO) let stuff out to keep people hyped. It's happening again and I'm enjoying it, under these circumstances.
 
Same here as well....like it matters if I am the first to know & heaven forbid I read about it in the paper tomorrow....Man I wish it would end soon w/ the best person in place...b/c I would like to get my life back to normal......ha ha ha:laugher::fingersx:

me too, I'm preparing for finals this week and have already missed two study group sessions because I was too busy surfing the internet trying to dig up info.

i need this to end quickly
 
I am not against Neuheisel. I think you should open up to that as well. Barnett created some of the issues at Colorado not Neuheisel. He did have one inelegible player that in my understanding was very similar to the issues we had. More paperwork than intending to cheat.

I think he is a better hire than any outside defensive guys like Edsall or Muschamp. If we go that way lets give the job to JT. He knows our players and our school. He can recruit better than some think and works the mic ok when he has too.

My favorite candidate is Hatcher. Would love to see the Hatch attack at Grant Field. We need to go offensive and do what it takes to keep JT. I can see JT being much more open to staying with RN as the coach vs a very young guy though.

One real question about RN. I don't want to hire anyone that cannot come now. We cannot repeat the same mistake we did with CG. I would rather have someone who stays a while. Does he have success here and leave to go pro ala Ross???
 
Dude, the Ravens' offense is crap. If that's a serious name, I'm a bit let down, to be honest.
Not sure what I think about RN but the Ravens offense has nothing to do with him. That's Billick completely...he calls the plays, he makes the QB decisions...he's run that team into the ground.
 
Not sure what I think about RN but the Ravens offense has nothing to do with him. That's Billick completely...he calls the plays, he makes the QB decisions...he's run that team into the ground.

Remember how he fired Jim Fassel so he could call plays himself and give them a great offense to go with Ray Lewis and their defense? Didn't exactly work out.
 
Putting "someone who will stay here a while" in your list of requirements will cut you back severely. First, no matter what anyone says, no one will pass up a great opportunity if it comes along. But they have to do something to warrant the opportunity so you win at least short term. Plus if you only want people who will stay forever, your limiting yourself to guys looking for their last job...like Gailey. Someone like Fridge, Cutcliffe, etc. Not saying they're bad, but you do limit your pool.
 
Putting "someone who will stay here a while" in your list of requirements will cut you back severely. First, no matter what anyone says, no one will pass up a great opportunity if it comes along. But they have to do something to warrant the opportunity so you win at least short term. Plus if you only want people who will stay forever, your limiting yourself to guys looking for their last job...like Gailey. Someone like Fridge, Cutcliffe, etc. Not saying they're bad, but you do limit your pool.

That is an excellent point NC.
 
Fridge or O'Leary or Ross Or LEWIS! Bring Back Lewis! Whisenhunt? Spurrier? How about Glanville? Dem, you're not helping. If it was Friedgen, I think we'd take him back, even though he's stinking it up with his own players.

Regarding the Ravens, Billick did take his team to a 13-3 record after dumping his buddy Fassel. McNair was horrible in the playoffs unfortunately.

This year, the Ravens have been hammered by injuries on the offense: Ogden, McNair, Heap, tall Receiver who stretches the field, etc.

But it's been really tough to watch the Jackets on Saturday, good defense and no offense, and then the Ravens on Sunday, good defense, no offense.
 
But it's been really tough to watch the Jackets on Saturday, good defense and no offense, and then the Ravens on Sunday, good defense, no offense.

Pfft...try watching the Jackets on Saturday, good defense and no offense, and then the Falcons on Sunday, no defense and...well...no offense.
 
Fridge or O'Leary or Ross Or LEWIS! Bring Back Lewis! Whisenhunt? Spurrier? How about Glanville? Dem, you're not helping. If it was Friedgen, I think we'd take him back, even though he's stinking it up with his own players.

Regarding the Ravens, Billick did take his team to a 13-3 record after dumping his buddy Fassel. McNair was horrible in the playoffs unfortunately.

This year, the Ravens have been hammered by injuries on the offense: Ogden, McNair, Heap, tall Receiver who stretches the field, etc.

But it's been really tough to watch the Jackets on Saturday, good defense and no offense, and then the Ravens on Sunday, good defense, no offense.

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This may be the funniest post in the history of forums!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Rick Neuheisel is definitely the third candidate.

I had the same initial reaction as many but take a good hard look at his record.

The "dirt" (which there really isn't any) doesn't bother me. His personality I think is positive -- he was basically the Western Spurrier, as someone else mentioned.

The only thing that does bother me is that he seemed to be really good for two years, then his teams got worse. Sort of like Friedgen. But I'm not sure sufficient data is in for that judgement yet.

Another thing to consider when judging Rick Neuheisel's record is that most of his teams played very tough schedules. Usually two major powers and a very good MWC team OOC, or something similar. The PAC-10 was weak in 99 but very good from 2000-2002. The Big XII was at its height in the mid-late 90's. He had incredibly tough bowl game draws and went I think 4-3 with two of the three losses being very close ones to 11-1 K-State and 11-2 Texas.

While it's true he was at the state U in both places, he beat clearly superior in-state rival teams three times (once at Colorado, twice at Washington). I know Wazzou and Colorado State are not all that, but we're talking about Mike Price and Sonny Lubbick at the pinnacle of their respective powers.

Don't forget that a lot of people thought Washington should play for the national title in 2000. They beat two top-five 11-1 BCS teams, and of the three contenders (Miami, FSU, and UW), it was Washington that would've won a transitive head to head tiebreaker.
 
NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!

The GamblerRick Neuheisel got fired for the wrong reason

By Jonathan Chait
Posted Monday, June 16, 2003, at 6:27 PM ET
Of all the college coaches who have been fired this offseason for personal vices (as opposed to job-related vices, mainly losing) the only one who has garnered much sympathy is Washington football coach Rick Neuheisel. Unlike fired Iowa State basketball coach Larry Eustachy, Neuheisel did not regularly attend parties at the homes of students, who at were at first star-struck but later, as he lingered awkwardly into the wee hours of the morning hitting on young women, increasingly creeped out. And unlike recently fired Alabama coach Mike Price, Neuheisel was not accused of spending a night with a stripper who ran up $1,000 in room-service charges on his company credit card, and, according to the stripper, answering her midcoital cry of "Roll, Tide" with the rejoinder, "It's rolling baby, it's rolling!" Few of us shed tears for Eustachy or Price because few of us have found ourselves in these sorts of situations. (Although, in Price's defense, anybody who has seen a room-service menu would know that spending $1,000 is not as hard as it sounds.)

Neuheisel's crime, by contrast, seems rather prosaic. He took part in an NCAA tournament betting pool the past two years, albeit an unusually high-stakes one, in which he won about $12,000. NCAA coaches are expressly forbidden to wager on college sports, and, ergo, Neuheisel was fired. The punishment struck many people as manifestly unfair. After all, millions of Americans participate in NCAA tournament pools, and many of us devote several hours of work time to researching our picks and coercing colleagues to join, an abuse of company time that is tantamount to stealing from your employer. Moreover, Neuheisel's crime is one of form and not substance—nobody alleges that a football coach could fix the NCAA basketball tournament. And so Neuheisel has the appearance of a man unfairly fired on the basis of a technicality. He may have lost his job, but, unlike his less-fortunate compatriots, he has not lost his public standing.

The real crime, though, is not that Neuheisel was fired. It's that he was fired in such a way as to preserve his reputation. Here is a man so richly deserving of a pink slip that his dismissal on such minor grounds leaves a sour taste. It's sort of like nabbing Al Capone for tax evasion. They got the right guy for the wrong reason.

Neuheisel, a blond-haired, rosy-cheeked former UCLA walk-on, achieved renown for his rapid coaching rise, first as an assistant and then later when named head coach of Colorado at the age of 33. Sports reporters fawned all over the articulate young star. Neuheisel was an irresistible novelty for the sports media: a players' coach who eschewed the tough demeanor of his colleagues, instead taking his team out white-water rafting and playing his guitar for the cameras.

Successful football coaches and successful guitarists are generally distinct, non-overlapping categories, and it seems there was a good reason for this. Neuheisel's mellow style may have won him acclaim from players and the press, but it didn't help him establish a disciplined atmosphere. At Colorado he inherited Bill McCartney's powerhouse program and compiled a 10-2 record in each of his first two seasons. But then he started slipping. His 1997 team, picked as preseason national champion by one magazine, finished a dismal 5-6 and often appeared demoralized. In 1998, he posted a so-so 8-4 mark.

Somehow, this mixed record persuaded the University of Washington to lure him away with a seven-figure contract, which Neuheisel quickly snapped up. In four years at Washington, he had one great season in 2000, going 11-1 and winning the Rose Bowl. The other three years, Washington went a combined 22-15, including a 7-6 record this past fall with a talent-laden squad whose players openly questioned each others' dedication. Somehow, this even shakier record persuaded the San Francisco 49ers to recruit Neuheisel as a possible head-coaching candidate. (Neuheisel's one great genius turns out to be his ability to make people think he is a genius.) He denied having been contacted by the 49ers until a reporter overheard him at the San Francisco airport discussing the job. Neuheisel explained that he lied to protect the 49ers—although it's difficult to fathom why the franchise would have needed to conceal the identity of its candidates for an advertised vacancy.

From Neuheisel's perspective, the great advantage of job mobility is that it allows him to stay one step ahead of the posse. After he left Colorado, the NCAA discovered 51 violations committed during his tenure, slapping the school with two years of probation. The American Football Coaches Association formally censured him for a lack of remorse. Neuheisel later described his approach to NCAA rules as "creative." Even when not breaking the letter of a rule, he often found ways to violate one in spirit. For instance, during periods when he was forbidden to visit recruits, he would drive in front of a prospective player's home, call him on his cell phone, and tell him to look out the window, where he would see Neuheisel waving. Washington high-school star Larry Stevens, who had spurned Neuheisel, described how the coach's pursuit bordered on stalking. Nonetheless Neuheisel, with a straight face, accused Pac-10 rival Bob Toledo of continuing to recruit players who had declared their intention to attend Washington.

While he maintained his golden-boy reputation with the national media and prospective employers, fellow coaches and fans referred to him as "Neuweasel" and "Slick Rick." The latter is a conscious reference to President Clinton, to whom Neuheisel was often likened by his critics. The comparison is deeply unfair. At least Clinton was a good president.
 
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