Expansion Rumors…

[FightOn!Jacket]

Latest rumor out today says that Pac12 and Big12 are now closer to a merger, leaving the ACC out in the cold due to the enormity of the GOR payment.

Consider the source reporting it FWIW. That’s the only thing. But it makes the most sense for the 2 leagues to combine into 1. It ensures their stability, while the ACC will eventually fold into a modified version of the Sun Belt conference.

Conference realignment slows as Big 12, Pac-12 may be realizing they're worth more together than apart

Plus: What's ahead for the Big Ten, SEC, ACC and College Football Playoff?

www.cbssports.com

 

[GoBees]

Consider the source reporting it FWIW. That’s the only thing. But it makes the most sense for the 2 leagues to combine into 1. It ensures their stability, while the ACC will eventually fold into a modified version of the Sun Belt conference.

Conference realignment slows as Big 12, Pac-12 may be realizing they're worth more together than apart

Plus: What's ahead for the Big Ten, SEC, ACC and College Football Playoff?

www.cbssports.com

Yippee (NOT)
Hopefully, Clemson or FSU lawyers eventually figure out a way to bust GOR and bolt for the SEC.
That should help us move to the B1G while leaving the rest of the Sun Belt ACC to fend for themselves, except possibly Miami.

 

[Techbert]

Latest rumor out today says that Pac12 and Big12 are now closer to a merger, leaving the ACC out in the cold due to the enormity of the GOR payment.

Remind me who was the ACC commish when they wrote the GOR?

 

[Nehru Jacket]

Interesting article about FSU from a Gainesville, FL sports writer. I got a free read, so I assume others can too ---

College football: FSU's future is clouded by bad moves in the past | David Whitley

FSU declined an invite to the SEC 30 years ago and hitched its wagon to the ACC. That call may haunt the 'Noles in this era of conference realignment.

www.gatorsports.com

The most interesting thing about that article is that the writer knows who Shakespeare is.

 

[GT7378]

Comon Big Ten let’s do it!

hadn't heard nor thought of that song in a long, long time - say late 60's... Thanks for the memory

 

[Nehru Jacket]

hadn't heard nor thought of that song in a long, long time - say late 60's... Thanks for the memory

Great stuff. I always loved the Canned Heat song On The Road Again. It crushed the Willie Nelson song of the same name like a grape.

 

[JJacket]

Great stuff. I always loved the Canned Heat song On The Road Again. It crushed the Willie Nelson song of the same name like a grape.

 

[gtg970g]

Power 5 Desirability Rating

SI thinks academics matter to desirability? The rank GT 16th in academics and uGA 19th.
Need I remind everyone they also glorify fatties and chicks with dicks in their swimsuit issue.

 

[JJacket]

SI thinks academics matter to desirability? The rank GT 16th in academics and uGA 19th.
Need I remind everyone they also glorify fatties and chicks with dicks in their swimsuit issue.

I don't think any BIG10 school would take the academics at UGAg very seriously. I'm sure if you told a Michigan or Purdue grad that a UGAg engineering degree is just as good as one from either of their respective schools, you'd get a look back of puzzlement and wonderment like you had just spoken some opposite world bizarro language

 

[BuzzLaw]

No. Don’t marginalize my post - its not emotional. I have been in the stands since the early 80’s and never considered dropping the series.

But the landscape has changed. The field is no longer level.

Go back and take a look at the stands last November. Tech fans have basically thrown in the towel in the series. That’s not emotional. That’s a fact.

Again I ask: what is the point?

You’re probably right.

That’s circumstantial. They’ll come back when we have real football on the field. It’s not a reason to destroy one of the oldest rivalries that exist in college football.

Uga is probably going to drop us when Texas and Oklahoma join the SEC.

 

[BuzzLaw]

It seems clear to me that the ACC isn’t going to add any teams or join with anyone else. They would’ve already done so. The fact that the ACC hasn’t already added teams sends the obvious message: at least half the teams in the ACC want out and are trying to figure out a way.

The ACC is dead man walking. The only question is whether it happens before or after the grant of rights expires.

 

[00Burdell]

It seems clear to me that the ACC isn’t going to add any teams or join with anyone else. They would’ve already done so. The fact that the ACC hasn’t already added teams sends the obvious message: at least half the teams in the ACC want out and are trying to figure out a way.

The ACC is dead man walking. The only question is whether it happens before or after the grant of rights expires.

Isn't the GoR really a contract between the ACC and ESPN? So the ACC pledged the rights to all of the conference member games to ESPN (and, therefore, the ACC required each of its members to pledge those rights to the conference). If this is correct, then if ESPN advises the ACC that it wants to dissolve or restructure the agreement in some scenario where the ACC adds Washington and Oregon (just to make up a scenario) and ESPN wants to restructure the agreement which may also be conditional on GT moving to the B1G. I have no idea.

But my guess is that there are a LOT of backroom conversations going on right now between ESPN and the commissioners of the SEC, B1G and ACC that involve some teams moving to another conference. When I see the B1G adding two teams from Los Angeles - two teams that could not be more different, its a clear signal that there is a larger goal that remains undisclosed.

I'm thinking there is a decent chance the GoR will be dissolved soon and the ACC will split off with a few teams going to the B1G, maybe a few to the SEC and the rest left for dead.

 

[BuzzLaw]

Isn't the GoR really a contract between the ACC and ESPN? So the ACC pledged the rights to all of the conference member games to ESPN (and, therefore, the ACC required each of its members to pledge those rights to the conference). If this is correct, then if ESPN advises the ACC that it wants to dissolve or restructure the agreement in some scenario where the ACC adds Washington and Oregon (just to make up a scenario) and ESPN wants to restructure the agreement which may also be conditional on GT moving to the B1G. I have no idea.

But my guess is that there are a LOT of backroom conversations going on right now between ESPN and the commissioners of the SEC, B1G and ACC that involve some teams moving to another conference. When I see the B1G adding two teams from Los Angeles - two teams that could not be more different, its a clear signal that there is a larger goal that remains undisclosed.

I'm thinking there is a decent chance the GoR will be dissolved soon and the ACC will split off with a few teams going to the B1G, maybe a few to the SEC and the rest left for dead.

I haven’t read all the contracts so I don’t know, but it’s possible the ACC teams entered the GoR as a condition of its media deal with ESPN. I did read that ESPN could do things that arguably destroy the GoR.

Either way, I think the ACC is on the way out, based simply on the fact we apparently haven’t made moves to get Az, AzSt, WV, Oregon, Utah, Baylor or OkSt.

 

[00Burdell]

I haven’t read all the contracts so I don’t know, but it’s possible the ACC teams entered the GoR as a condition of its media deal with ESPN. I did read that ESPN could do things that arguably destroy the GoR.

Either way, I think the ACC is on the way out, based simply on the fact we apparently haven’t made moves to get Az, AzSt, WV, Oregon, Utah, Baylor or OkSt.

Interesting - I hadn't really considered the implications of the ACC not trying to scoop anybody up from any other conference.

The silence right now is deafening.

 

[Supersize that order mutt]

It's all about the money. But ND pretty much has to remain independent since their limited contract with the ACC says ACC or no other conference for them.

Notre Dame targeting $75 million annual media rights payout in quest to remain independent

Power Five shoulder programming around Notre Dame games will be key to making such a deal happen

www.cbssports.com

 

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[AmpuTECHture]

I haven’t read all the contracts so I don’t know, but it’s possible the ACC teams entered the GoR as a condition of its media deal with ESPN. I did read that ESPN could do things that arguably destroy the GoR.

Either way, I think the ACC is on the way out, based simply on the fact we apparently haven’t made moves to get Az, AzSt, WV, Oregon, Utah, Baylor or OkSt.

Why would espn dissolve their amazing deal with the ACC where they are essentially going to pay below market values for ACC TV rights for a decade? And they would dissolve the ACC GOR resulting in several teams going to a competing network of the B1G just to get Clemson or Miami or FSU? It doesn't compute.

 

[BuzzLaw]

Why would espn dissolve their amazing deal with the ACC where they are essentially going to pay below market values for ACC TV rights for a decade? And they would dissolve the ACC GOR resulting in several teams going to a competing network of the B1G just to get Clemson or Miami or FSU? It doesn't compute.

That was my thought too when I read that. But I don’t understand all the media business.