Expansion

GT98 said:
Never happen. ND will only join a conference when they no longer have a path to the playoff otherwise. And that conference won’t be the ACC. Why in the hell would Penn St leave the huge $ of the Big10?
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of course they wouldn’t but at one time it was thought we would try and poach them. As for ND, if we go to an 8 playoff team or more then they stand a better chance of getting in but what’s going to happen, these mega conferences are going to argue that their teams are better, SOS, blah blah blah as always. Bottom line we should beat OOC teams head to head when given the chance… in the current environment or in the new one. Frankly these mega conferences are just a cancer spawned by the greed of TV money. Throw the NIL too with this. The bastardization of CFB.
 
WracerX said:
How many teams will the B12 have now?

isu
tt
baylor
tcu
houston
byu
utah
asu
au
ksu
ku
co
cinn
wvu
ucf
osu

16? Did I miss anyone?

Not sure how that group draws more money than the pac12 did.
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The league is all decent programs throughout. No fluff like Vandy or Duke, ok except for KU, but that's historical at this point.
 
The conglemeration of teams in the BIG and Big12 just looks weird to me. Conferences that cross 4 time zones. Sometimes just because you can do it doesn’t mean you have to. The PAC-12 to me made sense but they had leaders at the helm that poorly managed it. To break up the ACC just to do it doesn’t make sense either. You may make a few $million ($47mil vs. $50mil) more per school but at the expense of what? The fans, the other title IX sports, etc? I think what the ACC is going to do revenue share wise is logical and based on the merits of it you win or not, at least preserve the conference for a few more years. It just sucks that it has come to this in CFB.
 
THWUGA said:
Crickets from Cabrera, Batt, GA BOR… as expected.
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What are the senators or BOR supposed to say about the PAC? I suppose they could issue a declaration of support next week. But they won’t.
 
gtphd said:
They say that, then pick up Stanford and Caltech while booting Brown and Cornell.
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cyptomcat said:
The league is all decent programs throughout. No fluff like Vandy or Duke, ok except for KU, but that's historical at this point.
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KU does a lot for basketball rep. As does U of A. Very good baseball conference now too.
 
cyptomcat said:
This is all about football. There is a reason ACC would lose teams...
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I get that but some teams are valuable commodities in the other sports to allow for reasonable inclusion in the football related moves. Wake Forest, BC, etc. don’t move the needle at all. KU basketball is a big time program and a valuable conference member because of that. I would put Duke in the same realm as decently valuable from the basketball rep alone.
 
GTCrew4b said:
I get that but some teams are valuable commodities in the other sports to allow for reasonable inclusion in the football related moves. Wake Forest, BC, etc. don’t move the needle at all. KU basketball is a big time program and a valuable conference member because of that. I would put Duke in the same realm as decently valuable from the basketball rep alone.
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Are they though? Why should these conferences care about a teams' basketball prestige at this point?
 


We need to do something as a conference
 
JC7 said:
It's a bummer to see a conference that's been around since 1915 about to blow away like a pile of dust. Things change, but the impending death of the Pac-12 is sad.
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Interesting how it looks like its shaping up as the B1G vs the SEC as the two goliaths left standing. Also interesting how the B1G has no problem expanding into new territory. Pretty sure the SEC’s identity is tightly associated with its geography. If Notre Dame asked to join the SEC, I’m actually not sure they would say yes.
Looks at this point like the B1G has the SEC surrounded but I think they have one card left to play and they are saving it for last.
 
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00Burdell said:
Interesting how it looks like its shaping up as the B1G vs the SEC as the two goliaths left standing. Also interesting how the B1G has no problem expanding into new territory. Pretty sure the SEC’s identity is tightly associated with its geography. If Notre Dame asked to join the SEC, I’m actually not sure they would say yes.
Looks at this point like the B1G has the SEC surrounded but I think they have one card left to play and they are saving it for last.
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Let me guess the Jack of Hearts?
 
Let’s just create one system with multiple league that feed each other through a series of relegation and promotion. That would be the most interesting way to do it.
 
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