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I am very confused about what's going on.
justafan said:
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I hope there are no concessions made to arrogant FSU. Their administrators and trustees run down the conference in public all the time. They are not worth the trouble. I would not pull for them if they played Georgia.
 
79tech said:
Just call the ACC dysfunctional when a rich school like Stanford would join for free and we don't bring them in - just stupid and I am pissed at all 4 of the schools voting "no". I expected stupidity from FSU and Clemson but not UNC and as for NC State - what a bunch of wussies.
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Those four schools are a bunch of tards
 
CiraldoForever said:
I am very confused about what's going on.


I hope there are no concessions made to arrogant FSU. Their administrators and trustees run down the conference in public all the time. They are not worth the trouble. I would not pull for them if they played Georgia.
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I will be one pissed MF'er if FSU, Clemson, and ööööING UNC come out of this getting MORE payout than the rest of the ACC. That will absolutely be the death knell of the conference.
 
justafan said:
Berkeley has contributed a lot to science and technology, particularly computing. Think some of y'all are just biased against them because of the general political culture/bent there.

Yes they are sort of a football has-been but don't look too hard in the mirror.
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The bias against Berkeley is justified. There is as much pseudo-science coming from there as real science these days.
 
savbandjacket said:
The only concession that would be acceptable is ND joining the ACC as a full member as part of the conference TV and revenue share deal.

There is no way we should be adding OSU and WSU.
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Thinking outside the box.......if the ACC adds Stanford and Navy, that gives us two of ND's 3 teams the play every year. ND's NBC deal is up soon......would ESPN give us the additional $500mil/year the ACC needs to match the B1G / $EC revenues, to gain 6-7 ND home games, for a total of 10-11 ND games every year? Part of that could be the ACC Network adding California and Maryland to its in-state cable / satellite / streaming revenue increases.
 
justafan said:
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If this happens would we change the name to the All Coast Conference? Keep the acronym, just change the name. So no messy URL changes. Ditch the divisions and we are all good. Sounds too easy so it means it won't happen.
 
ramblnwrek said:
If this happens would we change the name to the All Coast Conference? Keep the acronym, just change the name. So no messy URL changes. Ditch the divisions and we are all good. Sounds too easy so it means it won't happen.
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Or just call it “ACC” and don’t have it abbreviate anything. That’s the easiest approach.
 
To have bound yourself to the ACC and your granting of rights and then have the distribution model change so that you get a smaller share of revenue should free you from the original agreement. That means to make your legal case you should vote no on unequal distribution. Pay attention to that GT, don’t vote for anything that puts you at a financial disadvantage that binds you for another dozen years. The only exception would be to vote for a model that distributes based on TV market size. Take that Tallahassee, Clemson, Blacksburg and the Triangle teams who should divide the triangle market by 3 for their share size.
 
77GTFan said:
To have bound yourself to the ACC and your granting of rights and then have the distribution model change so that you get a smaller share of revenue should free you from the original agreement. That means to make your legal case you should vote no on unequal distribution. Pay attention to that GT, don’t vote for anything that puts you at a financial disadvantage that binds you for another dozen years. The only exception would be to vote for a model that distributes based on TV market size. Take that Tallahassee, Clemson, Blacksburg and the Triangle teams who should divide the triangle market by 3 for their share size.
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Clearly teams will vote against any model they gives them less money. The only way I see it work is the post above where ND joins and the ACC figure out how to give uneven payout that makes everyone else better off.
 
Oh God, get me in there. Instead we will be adding Penn State, LSU, Alabama and Tennessee. That would be a conference that will increase the payouts. We will also begin picking apart the BIG/SEC at our leisure.
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There is a simple football resolution to all this. Add Stanford, Cal, Wazzou, Oregon State for football only to create a pod. Let Cal, Wazzou and Oregon State go to the Mountain West for all other sports. Per reports Stanford would get just fine going Indy for all other sports.
 
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savbandjacket said:
The only concession that would be acceptable is ND joining the ACC as a full member as part of the conference TV and revenue share deal.

There is no way we should be adding OSU and WSU.
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I agree the concession should be ND joining the ACC as a full member, with some deal about how ND splits their home game revenue; and some significant financial penalty if ND tries to jump to another conference. The ACC shouldn't take Stanford as a ND rival, and still have the threat that ND will jump to another conference in the near future. I am neutral about a Stanford, Cal, OSU, WSU west coast pod; unless it means more west coast travel for us which I am against. I would rather add Stanford, Cal, and SMU, and make SMU travel west a lot. I will be more disappointed if the ACC simply does nothing though.
 
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