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First and foremost I grew up in GA, and have lived in CA, CO and now NC. The conspiracy theories you have are a bit out there to say the least. To speculate Gibbs left for Alabama was to spotlight how he could perform against SEC talent is quite a straw man thought. Gibbs left for the obvious reasons. The writing was on the wall under the previous HC who I will not name. Gibbs talent was going to shine through regardless of where he played.

Clemson has averaged a Top 5-10 class for almost a decade and had a Top 2 class. During that time Texas, USC, TAMU, Auburn, etc have had multiple Top 10 classes. Here are Rivals.com rankings:

2015: #4 (Alabama #2, UGA #6)
2016: #6 (Alabama #1, UGA #9)
2018 #8 (Alabama #7, UGA #1)
2019 #9 (Alabama #2, UGA #1)
2020 #2 (Alabama #3, UGA #1)
2021 #6 (Alabama #1, UGA #5)
2022 #10 (Alabama #2, UGA #3)
2023 #10 (Alabama #1, UGA #2)

So yes, they have beaten Alabama and UGA in recruiting multiple times. What cracks me up is you really think that there is much of a gap between the classes.

As far as FSU’s recruiting, you can check for yourself. They are doing just fine as well in that department.

Clemson, FSU are going to get talent whether they remain in the ACC or go to the B1G, B12 or SEC. Add in NIL deals now, and bringing up what conference you play in is irrelevant. Travis Hunter is a prime example of that. FSU has also flipped multiple UGA commits and just took Bolden who was considered a UGA lock.


Way to move the goal posts. I didn't ask you when Clemson beat UGA or Bama, I asked when have they beat UGA and Bama. The answer is never, even when Clemson was at the top of their game. According to your data the only time they have out recruited Bama is when UGA out recruited Bama and Clemson. We will just have to completely disagree that 'come play in the S-E-C' isn't a recruiting pitch. You may not hear it much out in CA or even as much up in NC; but it is a consistent theme here.

"Conspiracy theories" -:lol: If you seriously haven't heard about the S-E-C or of 'S-E-C Speed" you need to get out more.
 
Oh look, a core memory...this was as huge a play as it gets because neither offense was going to be denied that day:


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The GA Legislature is crammed full of UGA good ole boys and girls, many graduating from their law school. Always has been. My grandfather was one of them, way back in his day. Very little that is truly beneficial to Tech over UGA comes from that place.

This. The Board of Regents is crammed with them and they make all the decisions for the University System of GA.
 
I am not sure where you live; but it must not be in the southeast. I completely disagree with you and donsue that being in the SEC isn't used as part of the recruiting pitch. It would not surprise me in the least if Gibbs wasn't told he needed to go to Bama so he could demonstrate his talent against SEC competition for NFL scouts.
Way to move the goal posts. I didn't ask you when Clemson beat UGA or Bama, I asked when have they beat UGA and Bama. The answer is never, even when Clemson was at the top of their game. According to your data the only time they have out recruited Bama is when UGA out recruited Bama and Clemson. We will just have to completely disagree that 'come play in the S-E-C' isn't a recruiting pitch. You may not hear it much out in CA or even as much up in NC; but it is a consistent theme here.

"Conspiracy theories" -:lol: If you seriously haven't heard about the S-E-C or of 'S-E-C Speed" you need to get out more.
You literally insinuated that Gibbs went to Alabama because he had to prove himself against SEC competition in order to impress NFL scouts. When in reality the numbers he put up at GT with a bad OL, inconsistent QB and an OC over his head were more impressive vs playing with a very good OL, elite QB and offensive talent. NFL scouts are going to spot elite talent regardless of where they play.

lol dude, you are beyond moving goal posts each and every time. You have gone from the SEC will not take Clemson and FSU because you think they bring nothing to the SEC. When the reality is, they are perfect fits. Huge stadiums, fanbases, brand recognition, TV viewership.

Clemson has beaten Alabama and UGA on the field and on the recruiting trail over the last decade. So because they didn’t finish #1 means exactly what again? You obviously don’t understand how the recruiting formula works. So I’ll simplify it for you. # of commits + * ranking = points. So if Clemson signs 25 and UGA, Bama, LSU, etc sign 28+, its pretty simple who finishes with the higher recruiting class rankings.

And let’s take a look at the results of those Top 5-10 recruiting classes (ranked behind your beloved Alabama, UGA) shall we? Clemson has played in 6 CFP’s, with 4 trips to the CFP NC game and won 2 NC’s. Clemson has been the only reason the ACC is even in the CFP conversation over the last 8 years.

I watch CFB regardless of conference. I don’t have SEC envy like you obviously do.
 
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