Geoff Collins

clapper said:
I'm not an O'Brien supporter, but that is a disingenuous post. He's been a head coach for eight full seasons between Penn State and Houston with only one losing season. Big Ten Coach of the Year and College Coach of the Year. Finished 2nd his first year with Houston (after they finished 2-14 the year before), then won the division four of the next five years. The only losing season came when Deshaun Watson tore his ACL. He might suck as a GM, but he did pretty well as a head coach.
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Yes, but his year following Ralph was painful. Third and 7, run 5 yard hook to set up 4th and 2.
 
clapper said:
He might suck as a GM, but he did pretty well as a head coach.
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He can't do both jobs at once--he made disastrous personnel decisions that the team is still paying the price for. He's at the rehab for coaches now, so he might get a shot somewhere down the line, doubtful that it is at GT.
 
GT98 said:
Guy was a disaster at Houston. Alienated players, bizarrely traded a top 5 WR in his prime, and made numerous other decisions that helped sink that franchise. Maybe he is just a career coordinator guy, no thanks as an HC.
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He wouldn’t take the GT job. And we don’t want him anyway.
 
GTWannaBee said:
Then the academy is where he’ll stay. Only other option is to go to a lower level school (1aa or even G5) and show he can run another offense. No one is taking a chance on an option coach in a P5 school.
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I know we are "technically" a P5 school, since we are a member of the ACC, but the way things are headed, we might be a P5 school the way Vandy is a P5 school. We are who we are, the only non-academy STEM school playing division 1 football, and we are not a factory, and unless something changes dramatically, we never will be. I wish it were the late 90's again, but it is not. And today's CFB is not yesterday's CFB. But, GT is still GT, as of now.
 
AlabamaBuzz said:
I know we are "technically" a P5 school, since we are a member of the ACC, but the way things are headed, we might be a P5 school the way Vandy is a P5 school. We are who we are, the only non-academy STEM school playing division 1 football, and we are not a factory, and unless something changes dramatically, we never will be. I wish it were the late 90's again, but it is not. And today's CFB is not yesterday's CFB. But, GT is still GT, as of now.
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And yet, in spite of all that drivel you just posted, there is no reason for us to be a 3 win program in "today's CFB", or even remotely at the same level as Vandy.
 
1) Give him until September before you decide to be toxic about the program. Number of losses aren’t changing between now and Labor Day and he’s not getting fired. A lot of you are sounding like douchebags rehashing the same öööö over and over.
2) Let’s see how this new staff will do. There are some really good coaches in that mix.
3) He needs to make a bowl game this season and win that bowl game. That’s the bare minimum. That is generous in my opinion and achievable. If he can’t do that with the new staff he’s not winning more than 5 ever.
4) We’re not bringing the option back. Stop salivating over Monken or who tf ever. Some of you option cultists almost sound like you enjoy the misery of the program so in your minds you can be proven right that your way is the way.
5) Everything is gonna be alright. We’re on the brink of change either way the season goes.
 
Akinji07 said:
1) Give him until September before you decide to be toxic about the program. Number of losses aren’t changing between now and Labor Day and he’s not getting fired. A lot of you are sounding like douchebags rehashing the same öööö over and over.
2) Let’s see how this new staff will do. There are some really good coaches in that mix.
3) He needs to make a bowl game this season and win that bowl game. That’s the bare minimum. That is generous in my opinion and achievable. If he can’t do that with the new staff he’s not winning more than 5 ever.
4) We’re not bringing the option back. Stop salivating over Monken or who tf ever. Some of you option cultists almost sound like you enjoy the misery of the program so in your minds you can be proven right that your way is the way.
5) Everything is gonna be alright. We’re on the brink of change either way the season goes.
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What he said.
 
GTWannaBee said:
Then the academy is where he’ll stay. Only other option is to go to a lower level school (1aa or even G5) and show he can run another offense. No one is taking a chance on an option coach in a P5 school.
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Everyone loved the 3O when we were in an Orange Bowl....but now it just can't work. I swear some Tech Fans are less reliable than Fox5 Weather updates. Yes, it's dated and probably set us back. But had we hired Monken and "phased" into a spread with the right OC, we wouldn't be where we are now. Basically the SMU of the ACC....the only difference is they at least won to get in trouble. Where the hell is Johnny Knoxville? I thought he played a better Geoffy
 
clapper said:
I'm not an O'Brien supporter, but that is a disingenuous post. He's been a head coach for eight full seasons between Penn State and Houston with only one losing season. Big Ten Coach of the Year and College Coach of the Year. Finished 2nd his first year with Houston (after they finished 2-14 the year before), then won the division four of the next five years. The only losing season came when Deshaun Watson tore his ACL. He might suck as a GM, but he did pretty well as a head coach.
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You can't explain it to the idiots Clap. But you're spot on and we royally f'd up not making a big move for him 3 yrs ago and or this season. I hope Stansbury walks face first into a Nail Bed
 
GT flunkout said:
And yet, in spite of all that drivel you just posted, there is no reason for us to be a 3 win program in "today's CFB", or even remotely at the same level as Vandy.
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Sure, we can still win 6-8 games with a good coaching staff and being in the ACC, but I still believe it is FACT that with the new CFB, that is about it without major $$ being spent on players. And, the separation will continue to grow.

Drivel = state of the program (I believe with the right coach, it does not have to be this bad, but not sure what kind of HC we can attract going forward - the job has gotten harder and harder, and it was already hard)
 
AlabamaBuzz said:
Sure, we can still win 6-8 games with a good coaching staff and being in the ACC, but I still believe it is FACT that with the new CFB, that is about it without major $$ being spent on players. And, the separation will continue to grow.

Drivel = state of the program (I believe with the right coach, it does not have to be this bad, but not sure what kind of HC we can attract going forward - the job has gotten harder and harder, and it was already hard)
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Not sure I agree... I mean look how ööööty Florida is at the moment, lets not talk about FSU, or any PAC12 teams.... Sure Texas has the most money, but they haven't been wining Natty's left and right.

Coach Paul Johnson showed the world in 2014 you can win despite not having any support from GTAA or ADs or donors.... What is funny is that GT hires a clown named Geoff Collins and throws more money at him and the program than at any time during theCPJ era. What did the money do??? The program hasn't won 10 games yet. By your comments Geoff Collins should have GT winning coastal titles, however while money is important it hasn't done a whole lot on the Flats!
 
GTFLETCH said:
Not sure I agree... I mean look how ööööty Florida is at the moment, lets not talk about FSU, or any PAC12 teams.... Sure Texas has the most money, but they haven't been wining Natty's left and right.

Coach Paul Johnson showed the world in 2014 you can win despite not having any support from GTAA or ADs or donors.... What is funny is that GT hires a clown named Geoff Collins and throws more money at him and the program than at any time during theCPJ era. What did the money do??? The program hasn't won 10 games yet. By your comments Geoff Collins should have GT winning coastal titles, however while money is important it hasn't done a whole lot on the Flats!
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The game had changed a tremendous amount before CPJ arrived, changed even more dramatically after he got there (why what he did was even more amazing), and the changes in the past couple of years since his departure have been at warp speed. I hope I am surprised by the future for GT football, but I am thinking the days of beating the factories, assuming they don't hire CGC as their HC, may be long behind us. Even if we "hit the motherload" with some surprising recruits, we will have to do our bidding while they are freshmen or sophs, because once they are known as special players, they will go where the NIL $$ is the best.
 
AlabamaBuzz said:
The game had changed a tremendous amount before CPJ arrived, changed even more dramatically after he got there (why what he did was even more amazing), and the changes in the past couple of years since his departure have been at warp speed. I hope I am surprised by the future for GT football, but I am thinking the days of beating the factories, assuming they don't hire CGC as their HC, may be long behind us. Even if we "hit the motherload" with some surprising recruits, we will have to do our bidding while they are freshmen or sophs, because once they are known as special players, they will go where the NIL $$ is the best.
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Next coach (and coaching staff) should be a budget minded pick, with the rest of the money going to the players. It's the only way we are going to compete IMO. It's not like we would be able to attract a legit HC candidate anyway at this point. Geoff Collins will be coaching defense at a bottom-feeder SEC "school" by this time next year.
 
Akinji07 said:
2) Let’s see how this new staff will do. There are some really good coaches in that mix.
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I agree. However, I am haunted by the memory of Bill Lewis’s staff being described in the media as the “best in college football”.
 
txsting said:
Next coach (and coaching staff) should be a budget minded pick, with the rest of the money going to the players. It's the only way we are going to compete IMO. It's not like we would be able to attract a legit HC candidate anyway at this point. Geoff Collins will be coaching defense at a bottom-feeder SEC "school" by this time next year.
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How exactly is Tech supposed to pay their players?
 
Akinji07 said:
1) Give him until September before you decide to be toxic about the program. Number of losses aren’t changing between now and Labor Day and he’s not getting fired. A lot of you are sounding like douchebags rehashing the same öööö over and over.
2) Let’s see how this new staff will do. There are some really good coaches in that mix.
3) He needs to make a bowl game this season and win that bowl game. That’s the bare minimum. That is generous in my opinion and achievable. If he can’t do that with the new staff he’s not winning more than 5 ever.
4) We’re not bringing the option back. Stop salivating over Monken or who tf ever. Some of you option cultists almost sound like you enjoy the misery of the program so in your minds you can be proven right that your way is the way.
5) Everything is gonna be alright. We’re on the brink of change either way the season goes.
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1. After three years, and 9-25, it is difficult to be anything but toxic. I don't have enough Scotch in the house to numb the pain of the last three seasons.
2. Sure. But, right now, they're just different, not better, and I have doubts about some of the hires.
3. I think if he just makes a bowl game, he gets two more years. I don't think making a bowl game will happen this year but if he does get to that, Stansbury will gladly keep him gainfully employed.
4. Even if Monken comes, he won't necessarily bring the triple back with him. He told the president of South Carolina the same thing. My source for that? Jeff Monken.
5. God, I hope so. But if Clown makes a bowl and keeps the job, there's the chance we get stuck in even further and more abject mediocrity, as in a ceiling of six wins and a continued floor of 3-4.
 
AlabamaBuzz said:
The game had changed a tremendous amount before CPJ arrived, changed even more dramatically after he got there (why what he did was even more amazing), and the changes in the past couple of years since his departure have been at warp speed. I hope I am surprised by the future for GT football, but I am thinking the days of beating the factories, assuming they don't hire CGC as their HC, may be long behind us. Even if we "hit the motherload" with some surprising recruits, we will have to do our bidding while they are freshmen or sophs, because once they are known as special players, they will go where the NIL $$ is the best.
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Well have you seen GT's football record from 1967 to 1989??? I mean most years are 3 and 4 win seasons. I think what has happened is that Georgia Tech fans under Oleary, Gailey, Johnson became spoiled and saw the program win more then anytime in since 1967. CPJ then took Georgia Tech to heights never seen before with an ACC Championship in 2009, and two OBs. People actually thought that CPJ was a problem. Hell he has won more than any Coach that came after Bobby Dodd and only the 1990 season under Bobby Ross was better than his two OB seasons.

The craziness is that people actually thought Geoff Collins would bring us another 1990 season becuase Coach Paul Johnson was actually holding Georgia Tech football back. That is some serious stupidity! IIWII
 
GTFLETCH said:
Well have you seen GT's football record from 1967 to 1989??? I mean most years are 3 and 4 win seasons. I think what has happened is that Georgia Tech fans under Oleary, Gailey, Johnson became spoiled and saw the program win more then anytime in since 1967. CPJ then took Georgia Tech to heights never seen before with an ACC Championship in 2009, and two OBs. People actually thought that CPJ was a problem. Hell he has won more than any Coach that came after Bobby Dodd and only the 1990 season under Bobby Ross was better than his two OB seasons.

The craziness is that people actually thought Geoff Collins would bring us another 1990 season becuase Coach Paul Johnson was actually holding Georgia Tech football back. That is some serious stupidity! IIWII
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I know. I agree. We traded a HC for a salesman. I hope you are saying this for the CGC fanboys. I have never been one. I thought and still think, our only hope of competing with the best (occasionally) is having a special HC with a difficult to prepare for scheme.
 
GTFLETCH said:
Well have you seen GT's football record from 1967 to 1989??? I mean most years are 3 and 4 win seasons. I think what has happened is that Georgia Tech fans under Oleary, Gailey, Johnson became spoiled and saw the program win more then anytime in since 1967. CPJ then took Georgia Tech to heights never seen before with an ACC Championship in 2009, and two OBs. People actually thought that CPJ was a problem. Hell he has won more than any Coach that came after Bobby Dodd and only the 1990 season under Bobby Ross was better than his two OB seasons.

The craziness is that people actually thought Geoff Collins would bring us another 1990 season becuase Coach Paul Johnson was actually holding Georgia Tech football back. That is some serious stupidity! IIWII
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There were no 3 win seasons between 1967 and 1979.
Beginning in 1980 Curry our third worst coach behind Collins and Lewis had multiple bad seasons until Alabama saved us by hiring him after a 5-5-1 season.
Ross had two bad seasons cleaning up the mess left by Curry. Then had several good to great teams.
Then Lewis tore up what Ross had accomplished.
From the time O'Leary took over until Johnson left we had one 3 win season the injury riddled 2015. Between 1997 and 2014 we were in a bowl every year.
In the last 80 years Collins is the only coach with three 3 win or less seasons. Quite an accomplishment.
 
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