If TStan can’t recognize this garbage

BuzzLaw said:
I appreciate this argument. I really do. And my argument is not a “let’s keep PJ” vs “let’s keep GC” argument.

That being said, PH would’ve won more than 9 with this talent over the last 3 years. GC is sitting over here acting like it’s ok that he ööööing sucks. No. It’s not ok.
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I don't doubt that Paul would have won more than 9. But Paul wouldn't have had this talent. Many of the current recruits have stated that they weren't really considering GT before because of the offensive system we ran (and that was offensive & defensive players saying that).

Collins has sucked. No argument there. But I will repeat....he has done TWO really valuable services to GT football.
1 - He has recruited better talent. So if/when he ends up leaving, at least the next guy will inherit more talent than he did.
2 - He has proven that it is possible to recruit and keep players eligible. I've been a Tech fan since I started school there in 84 and I had bought into the argument that we just simply couldn't recruit in the same pool as UGAg and others. That has proven not to really be the case.
 
daBuzz said:
Paul Johnson was 24-25 in his final 4 seasons. Your statements reek of revisionism if you're claiming "We were still winning".

And let's not forget...Paul quit. He retired. We didn't fire him. Perhaps it was because he knew just how empty the cupboard was for the next year(s).
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He had less folks to watch film than duke.
 
BuzzLaw said:
He had less folks to watch film than duke.
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OK. And a HUGE part of Paul's problem was the way he interacted with large $ donors at Tech. He was quite literally biting the proverbial hand that would have fed him.
 
daBuzz said:
I don't doubt that Paul would have won more than 9. But Paul wouldn't have had this talent. Many of the current recruits have stated that they weren't really considering GT before because of the offensive system we ran (and that was offensive & defensive players saying that).

Collins has sucked. No argument there. But I will repeat....he has done TWO really valuable services to GT football.
1 - He has recruited better talent. So if/when he ends up leaving, at least the next guy will inherit more talent than he did.
2 - He has proven that it is possible to recruit and keep players eligible. I've been a Tech fan since I started school there in 84 and I had bought into the argument that we just simply couldn't recruit in the same pool as UGAg and others. That has proven not to really be the case.
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So we can compete for 5 stars with Bama, Clemson,
UGa, Fsu, etc?
 
Supersize that order mutt said:
The photo below says it all about TStan and Collins. It appeared in today's post-game AJC article by Mark Bradley. The link to the article is
www.ajc.com

Geoff Collins’ third season ends with Tech being outscored 100-0

Geoff Collins’ third season as Georgia Tech’s coach ended not with a bang but with a series of thuds. His Yellow Jackets lost their final six games. They lost their final two by the aggregate score of 100-0. Saturday’s finale against Georgia ended 45-0. It could have been much worse.
www.ajc.com www.ajc.com

If you want to read the very accurate article and can't access it, let me know and I will paste the contents


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"Mutt & Jeff"
 
Obviously it’s time to dab our guys wtf wrong with y’all
 
daBuzz said:
OK. And a HUGE part of Paul's problem was the way he interacted with large $ donors at Tech. He was quite literally biting the proverbial hand that would have fed him.
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That’s fine. Good enuff argument. Don’t know how true or false it is. But this ööööhead is doing all kinds of dumb öööö to embarrass our school
 
daBuzz said:
Not defending Collins because his tenure has sucked. But let's not act like he inherited anything like the talent level Johnson inherited. Paul looked at what was coming back and that likely helped quite a bit in his decision to QUIT. Again....he QUIT.

All of you wanting to ride Johnson's johnson need to remember that. He quit. And left the cupboard f'ing bare when he did, too.
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I can’t believe people still think the talent of 2019 and beyond is anywhere close to indicative of the “situation Geoff Collins” inherited. It truly boggles the mind how that is reconciled or where such insight comes from other than a coping mechanism you’ve manufactured.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
I can’t believe people still think the talent of 2019 and beyond is anywhere close to indicative of the “situation Geoff Collins” inherited. It truly boggles the mind how that is reconciled or where such insight comes from other than a copping mechanism you’ve manufactured.
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Wait, what? Are you honestly claiming that we had talent when Johnson left?
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daBuzz said:
We've signed more 4 stars in 3 years of Collins than we did during Johnson's entire tenure. So....yeah?
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That's interesting, I did not know that. I was under the impression that recruiting was maybe twice as good, but that seems like another world. I don't follow this stuff very closely.
 
daBuzz said:
Not defending Collins because his tenure has sucked. But let's not act like he inherited anything like the talent level Johnson inherited. Paul looked at what was coming back and that likely helped quite a bit in his decision to QUIT. Again....he QUIT.

All of you wanting to ride Johnson's johnson need to remember that. He quit. And left the cupboard f'ing bare when he did, too.
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This is a weird argument. How many of us would be over the moon if Geoff decided to quit?

If you don’t think you’ve got it anymore, retire. If I were in my 60s and worth $10M+, I’d probably “quit” too. CPJ is one of the few coaches we didn’t have to pay after he left Tech. Regardless of how you feel about his coaching, we should be grateful for that.
 
daBuzz said:
OK. And a HUGE part of Paul's problem was the way he interacted with large $ donors at Tech. He was quite literally biting the proverbial hand that would have fed him.
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And has Collins interacted any better with them? He obviously has nothing but disdain for the fans. Why would you think he does any more for the big donors?
 
daBuzz said:
OK. And a HUGE part of Paul's problem was the way he interacted with large $ donors at Tech. He was quite literally biting the proverbial hand that would have fed him.
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In case you haven't noticed, our big money donors are ööööing retarded.
 
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