Is Sims gone?

This has a bit of animosity it feels... if Key told Sims to go in at the game and Sims refused... sounds like Key is locking him out of practice/meetings and anything else to do with team activities as disciplinary action against him.
 
Sounds to me like Sims agreed to be the "emergency QB" hoping that his foot would be okay by the time he was called on to play. Once that time came, he determined he couldn't play on his foot, so he stayed out. I'm not sure why it was left up to him in that way. Like he or the trainers should know if he could play or not before the middle of a game. So now, there's just no question, he will be inactive the rest of the year.
I don't think there's any quitting going on, just some poor communication. He probably will transfer though depending on the next HC.
 
jkernea said:
This has a bit of animosity it feels... if Key told Sims to go in at the game and Sims refused... sounds like Key is locking him out of practice/meetings and anything else to do with team activities as disciplinary action against him.
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Sounds like exactly what a coach should do. If he doesn’t want to be part of the team, he should be out. You don’t pull the guy’s rehab or housing, but he should have zero access to pretty much anything football related.
 
Vespinae said:
Sounds to me like Sims agreed to be the "emergency QB" hoping that his foot would be okay by the time he was called on to play. Once that time came, he determined he couldn't play on his foot, so he stayed out. I'm not sure why it was left up to him in that way. Like he or the trainers should know if he could play or not before the middle of a game. So now, there's just no question, he will be inactive the rest of the year.
I don't think there's any quitting going on, just some poor communication. He probably will transfer though depending on the next HC.
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Sounds like Sims agreed to be the emergency QB hoping he wouldn’t be asked to play.
 
I don't think we really have enough info to make a judgment here and probably never will.

If Sims is relatively healthy and only doesn't want to play because he's planning on transferring, or because he is pissed he wasn't reinstated as a starter this past weekend, or if he said he would play and then bailed midgame (basically what WracerX said), then it makes sense to boot him from the team like this.

However, if he really doesn't feel healthy enough and has communicated that conistently to coaches, then this does feel vindictive and wrong and a complete mishandling of the situation by Key. Ultimately players should have the right to make decisions about their own health without fear of reprisal.
 
WracerX said:
Sounds like Sims agreed to be the emergency QB hoping he wouldn’t be asked to play.
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Could be true, though I'd like to believe he just hoped his foot would magically feel better by the time he was called to go in. I would have agreed with your point immediately after the Ole Miss game when he was cutting his 3rd down runs short. But seeing his change in attitude during the Pitt game, I'll go with him hoping he could go in, but just couldn't confidently play.
 
andrew said:
I don't think we really have enough info to make a judgment here and probably never will.

If Sims is relatively healthy and only doesn't want to play because he's planning on transferring, or because he is pissed he wasn't reinstated as a starter this past weekend, or if he said he would play and then bailed midgame (basically what WracerX said), then it makes sense to boot him from the team like this.

However, if he really doesn't feel healthy enough and has communicated that conistently to coaches, then this does feel vindictive and wrong and a complete mishandling of the situation by Key. Ultimately players should have the right to make decisions about their own health without fear of reprisal.
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Jump to about the 10:20 mark. I think Ken asks the question you're looking for. Key seemed to me to reference back to his post game comments and clarified it more - he's hurt, medically cleared, his team needed him, and he said no.

 
How many P5 schools would/could Sims walk into in two months and be their projected 2023 starter? 5 schools? 10 tops?
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
Jump to about the 10:20 mark. I think Ken asks the question you're looking for. Key seemed to me to reference back to his post game comments and clarified it more - he's hurt, medically cleared, his team needed him, and he said no.

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I could see Sims being a little irritated being asked to go in before the backup QB.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
Jump to about the 10:20 mark. I think Ken asks the question you're looking for. Key seemed to me to reference back to his post game comments and clarified it more - he's hurt, medically cleared, his team needed him, and he said no.

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That doesn't answer my question though. Did Sims tell them during the week he wasn't good to go and wouldn't be playing? Or did he say he was fine with playing in an emergency situation and then went back on it when Pyron went down?
 
andrew said:
That doesn't answer my question though. Did Sims tell them during the week he wasn't good to go and wouldn't be playing? Or did he say he was fine with playing in an emergency situation and then went back on it when Pyron went down?
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Why would he be in pads if he told them on Tuesday through running out after the Wreck that he couldn't play?
 
andrew said:
That doesn't answer my question though. Did Sims tell them during the week he wasn't good to go and wouldn't be playing? Or did he say he was fine with playing in an emergency situation and then went back on it when Pyron went down?
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And this have a clear understanding of what's emergency. Down 7 with qb down is an emergency in my book, but was it clear for them all...
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
Jump to about the 10:20 mark. I think Ken asks the question you're looking for. Key seemed to me to reference back to his post game comments and clarified it more - he's hurt, medically cleared, his team needed him, and he said no.

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His answer doesn't really say that at all... if anything it shines more light that "medically cleared" doesn't mean "capable of performing well." He said you "Just because on paper you medically can... I mean, there's every day you wake up and feel a little bit different, so, the ability for him to go out there and be the person that he wants to be on the field didn't present itself at the time." Still sounds to me like they were letting him dictate whether or not he could play and he didn't feel like he could.
 
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