Johnson/Option Haters - You are forgiven

Flywheel said:
I don't think this thread was needed here, but it'd do well as a letter to our boosters. They wouldn't give the time of day to the future hall-of-famer but gave CGC everything he asked for (so I'm told anyway).

If all that's true, I hope they know the last 4 years are their fault, and the prior 11 could have been even better. I want them to know this because I don't want a repeat now. I want them to take their finger off the scales, let Cabrera and the new AD fix this, and donate without strings attached.

One hopes that paying a combined $14M in buyout to get CGC here and then to leave was a painful lesson in that which won't be forgotten.
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You only say that because you don’t know real football.
 
Flywheel said:
I don't think this thread was needed here, but it'd do well as a letter to our boosters. They wouldn't give the time of day to the future hall-of-famer but gave CGC everything he asked for (so I'm told anyway).

If all that's true, I hope they know the last 4 years are their fault, and the prior 11 could have been even better. I want them to know this because I don't want a repeat now. I want them to take their finger off the scales, let Cabrera and the new AD fix this, and donate without strings attached.

One hopes that paying a combined $14M in buyout to get CGC here and then to leave was a painful lesson in that which won't be forgotten.
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Lots of revisionist nonsense in here. Acting like things were all hunky-dory at the end of 2018 just because there was a little more money. That bed was made a decade earlier when an option coach was hired. Clown couldn’t pull off a transition in four years, shame on him. Clown also inherited a roster that couldn’t pass or run at will on the ööööing Citadel. A 50 scholly FCS team. That giant turd is at the feet of DRad.
 
gtchief said:
Lots of revisionist nonsense in here. Acting like things were all hunky-dory at the end of 2018 just because there was a little more money. That bed was made a decade earlier when an option coach was hired. Clown couldn’t pull off a transition in four years, shame on him. Clown also inherited a roster that couldn’t pass or run at will on the ööööing Citadel. A 50 scholly FCS team. That giant turd is at the feet of DRad.
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Wait. Wut? So you're sticking with "historic transition" as the reason we lost games like the Citadel? How many losses each year were "DRad's fault" and how many were Clown's?
 
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gtchief said:
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The anti-option, we must go through "the largest transition in the history of football" perspective is what got us 3.25 years of the juice crew. So the point still stands. I'd be open to see any anti-option posters show where they were anti-collins 3+ years ago.
 
gtchief said:
Lots of revisionist nonsense in here. Acting like things were all hunky-dory at the end of 2018 just because there was a little more money. That bed was made a decade earlier when an option coach was hired. Clown couldn’t pull off a transition in four years, shame on him. Clown also inherited a roster that couldn’t pass or run at will on the ööööing Citadel. A 50 scholly FCS team. That giant turd is at the feet of DRad.
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We're still blaming the players even after the öööö that's coming out and examples such as it taking a young position coach with limited coaching experience 3 days to fix what the head coach couldn't fix with years on the job and decades more of experience?
 
GT flunkout said:
Wut

It sucked but we were throwing oranges on the field in Tampa a week later
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and then losing with a whimper as the nation watched the mighty TO get shut down again in a bowl game, after LSU bitch-slapped it the previous year.

And then the first losing season in 2010, just to make sure that any and all momentum from 08-09 would be killed.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
and then losing with a whimper as the nation watched the mighty TO get shut down again in a bowl game, after LSU bitch-slapped it the previous year.

And then the first losing season in 2010, just to make sure that any and all momentum from 08-09 would be killed.
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Funny you stopped at 2010. We then went 3 straight seasons with winning records in the ACC, went to the ACCCG and lost to the national champs by 2, had a tough 2015 where we just couldn't stop getting injured, as we started almost 40 different total starters, O Line being killed the most. However, that season we were within one possession of almost all of our losses. 2016, we went 9-4 and 3-0 against the SEC. 2017, we would've been .500 if UCF wasn't the only Florida school to cancel their game. 2018, another winning season. Johnson was 51-37 in the ACC, and only had one losing ACC record. I swear some of y'all love to use stats to bend history.

Edit: And that losing season in 2010 was only bc we played a REALLY good Air Force team who lost to #7 Oklahoma by 3 and #8 Utah by 5.
 
For those that like to focus on single team matchups and rivalries. How big would the biggest uga win streak over GT be without CPJ? Here’s a hint…>9
 
GT flunkout said:
Wait. Wut? So you're sticking with "historic transition" as the reason we lost games like the Citadel? How many losses each year were "DRad's fault" and how many were Clown's?
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“This guy failed at the transition therefore the transition wasn’t an issue” is quite a logical leap.
 
gtchief said:
Lots of revisionist nonsense in here. Acting like things were all hunky-dory at the end of 2018 just because there was a little more money. That bed was made a decade earlier when an option coach was hired. Clown couldn’t pull off a transition in four years, shame on him. Clown also inherited a roster that couldn’t pass or run at will on the ööööing Citadel. A 50 scholly FCS team. That giant turd is at the feet of DRad.
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All 11 years were not the same as 2018. There's a reason the prior guy won ACC COTY three times and we're celebrating Nesbitt in the Tech HOF in another thread.
 
CarsonNewmanJacket said:
Funny you stopped at 2010. We then went 3 straight seasons with winning records in the ACC, went to the ACCCG and lost to the national champs by 2, had a tough 2015 where we just couldn't stop getting injured, as we started almost 40 different total starters, O Line being killed the most. However, that season we were within one possession of almost all of our losses. 2016, we went 9-4 and 3-0 against the SEC. 2017, we would've been .500 if UCF wasn't the only Florida school to cancel their game. 2018, another winning season. Johnson was 51-37 in the ACC, and only had one losing ACC record. I swear some of y'all love to use stats to bend history.

Edit: And that losing season in 2010 was only bc we played a REALLY good Air Force team who lost to #7 Oklahoma by 3 and #8 Utah by 5.
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2010 was first losing season since BL but wouldn't be the last of our PJ losing seasons.

Making USAF out to be world beaters is a new one, I'll give you that. At least the Juice Crew doesn't pretend that the Citadel was a good team lol.

Every team has major injuries every year so I tire of hearing that for 2015. Besides, we were very healthy when we got beat by Notre Dame early on.
PJ never did sustain success nor use it to improve recruiting. It's one of his downfalls at GT, though he absolutely achieved some great success as well.

But he's not the Bear Bryant some fans make him out to be. I don't give AF how bad Clown ended up being: we were dead in the water at the end of 2018. That Bozo wasn't the answer doesn't change that, as much as the PJ Fan Club wishes otherwise.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
2010 was first losing season since BL but wouldn't be the last of our PJ losing seasons.

Making USAF out to be world beaters is a new one, I'll give you that. At least the Juice Crew doesn't pretend that the Citadel was a good team lol.

Every team has major injuries every year so I tire of hearing that for 2015. Besides, we were very healthy when we got beat by Notre Dame early on.
PJ never did sustain success nor use it to improve recruiting. It's one of his downfalls at GT, though he absolutely achieved some great success as well.

But he's not the Bear Bryant some fans make him out to be. I don't give AF how bad Clown ended up being: we were dead in the water at the end of 2018. That Bozo wasn't the answer doesn't change that, as much as the PJ Fan Club wishes otherwise.
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Well when AF went 9-4, with 2 losses within one possession to 2 top 10 teams is pretty damn good...

Every team has major injuries, but not every team was on 3rd string offensive linemen in 3-4 different positions, depending on what game you look at. PJ didn't recruit what the AP thought was good recruits, but look at several records and NFL players that he got, which were considered scrubs and FCS talent by AP and ESPN.

He had the 33rd best offense in the NCAA in 2018.
 
CarsonNewmanJacket said:
Well when AF went 9-4, with 2 losses within one possession to 2 top 10 teams is pretty damn good...

Every team has major injuries, but not every team was on 3rd string offensive linemen in 3-4 different positions, depending on what game you look at. PJ didn't recruit what the AP thought was good recruits, but look at several records and NFL players that he got, which were considered scrubs and FCS talent by AP and ESPN.

He had the 33rd best offense in the NCAA in 2018.
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Yea, running clock will do that.
 
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