Johnson reflects on the train wreck that was Collins

RamblinWreck92 said:
Scheme > school for some of the Option Fan Club members. Always has been.
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It’s actually the opposite. Scheme was more important than school for the option haters. Almost every “option fanboy” is an alum with significant vested interest in the school and roots for the school to do well regardless of scheme. They simply recognize the team did well with the option. Almost every “option hater” is not an alum and simply wants to be able to talk football with their fellow football loving fans and can’t handle being different.
 
Old-Fashioned UGA Hater said:
Beating the dwags 3 times in a row is GREAT!
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I will argue the 3 uga teams that CPJ beat were much better than the 3 that GOL beat. Remember PJ beat Kirby. GOL beat Jim Donan.

But again I think PJs point was just from program standpoint his tenure was the best since Dodd and I think it's hard to argue that. It's disappointing to think how Tech went from 0 losses in 1990 to 1 win in 1994.
 
TechRush said:
Johnson said he believes he had the best 10 year run since Dodd. I'm not sure if you noticed but Ross and O'Leary weren't around for 10 years and jumped for new challenges (Ross) or greener pastures (O'Leary). So what he is saying is probably correct.

But you all can continue with your fascination of taking a big dogshit dump on Johnson, it is what you do.
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This is a tough one. Win a Natty, what would that offset? For example, would 1 Natty & 2 poor season plus 2 good seasons be better than 2 extremely good, 3 very good, 4 mediocre and 2 bad ones? I think so. Similarly, beating the mutts 3IAR how much would that offset? Chan's no losing seasons is an accomplishment, but there were not any 10+ win seasons. Ross had the Natty & 2 good seasons out of 5. It stands to reason he might have another great season in him in 5 years and at least or 2 good ones.

I think Johnson had one of 3 great runs since Dodd. Hard to beat the Natty, same goes for 3IAR. Worst case he had the 3rd best run in 50 years and that's nothing to sneeze at. I think he has a good solid argument for 2nd place, not so sure he has a great argument for #1.
 
Liberty said:
This is a tough one. Win a Natty, what would that offset? For example, would 1 Natty & 2 poor season plus 2 good seasons be better than 2 extremely good, 3 very good, 4 mediocre and 2 bad ones? I think so. Similarly, beating the mutts 3IAR how much would that offset? Chan's no losing seasons is an accomplishment, but there were not any 10+ win seasons. Ross had the Natty & 2 good seasons out of 5. It stands to reason he might have another great season in him in 5 years and at least or 2 good ones.

I think Johnson had one of 3 great runs since Dodd. Hard to beat the Natty, same goes for 3IAR. Worst case he had the 3rd best run in 50 years and that's nothing to sneeze at. I think he has a good solid argument for 2nd place, not so sure he has a great argument for #1.
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I wasn't IAR, but CPJ did beat the mutts 3x. That ties the high-water mark post 1956 for all coaches since then (Dodd 1961-63, O'Leary 1998-2000, and Johnson 2008, 14, and 16). Carson, Rodgers, Curry, and Ross all did it 2x. Don't think too deeply on that, it will depress you.
 
rocky top buzz said:
I will argue the 3 uga teams that CPJ beat were much better than the 3 that GOL beat. Remember PJ beat Kirby. GOL beat Jim Donan.

But again I think PJs point was just from program standpoint his tenure was the best since Dodd and I think it's hard to argue that. It's disappointing to think how Tech went from 0 losses in 1990 to 1 win in 1994.
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O’Leary didn't need 12 seasons to beat the bulldogs three times.
 
GTCrew4b said:
It’s actually the opposite. Scheme was more important than school for the option haters. Almost every “option fanboy” is an alum with significant vested interest in the school and roots for the school to do well regardless of scheme. They simply recognize the team did well with the option. Almost every “option hater” is not an alum and simply wants to be able to talk football with their fellow football loving fans and can’t handle being different.
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It's actually the opposte. Scheme was more important to the dozen or so PJ Fan Club fans who followed PJ over here from Southern and who signed on here the day he arrived. Rushing Stats > Wins to that group. PJ himself showed how much he valued Rushing Stats with his little jibe about "We led the nation in rushing in 2018" comment in this article. Well coach, when you're 4th from the bottom in Team Passing and you hand it off as often as your teams did, you damn well better be near the top in Rushing :lol2:
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
It's actually the opposte. Scheme was more important to the dozen or so PJ Fan Club fans who followed PJ over here from Southern and who signed on here the day he arrived. Rushing Stats > Wins to that group. PJ himself showed how much he valued Rushing Stats with his little jibe about "We led the nation in rushing in 2018" comment in this article. Well coach, when you're 4th from the bottom in Team Passing and you hand it off as often as your teams did, you damn well better be near the top in Rushing :lol2:
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How was he able to run the ball with an OL that was less than 6 foot tall and averaged 260 lbs though? :lol2:
 
Old-Fashioned UGA Hater said:
O’Leary didn't need 12 seasons to beat the bulldogs three times.
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O'Leary beat the mutts 3x in 7 years. That ties Dodd's last 7 years (of course, he beat them 9x earlier in his career for a total of 12x in 22 seasons). CPJ beat them 3x in 11 years. That's 1 behind Dodd's last 11 years. So, the order wrt UGAg is Dodd > O'Leary > Johnson.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
It's actually the opposte. Scheme was more important to the dozen or so PJ Fan Club fans who followed PJ over here from Southern and who signed on here the day he arrived. Rushing Stats > Wins to that group. PJ himself showed how much he valued Rushing Stats with his little jibe about "We led the nation in rushing in 2018" comment in this article. Well coach, when you're 4th from the bottom in Team Passing and you hand it off as often as your teams did, you damn well better be near the top in Rushing :lol2:
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Lead the nation in rushing but lost 6games. Have to tell the full story.
 
rocky top buzz said:
oh, and the vacated ACCCG is 100% DRad. He wasn't supposed to tell coach. He did. End of story.
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This is also BS because the idea that the AD could not tell his coach that there was an investigation against one of his players makes no sense.

The simple fact is the NCAA does not punish the biggest schools so they have to make an example of the mid sized and smaller schools like Tech. And penalizing a couple of players who had, or soon would, be playing in thr NFL wouldn’t work.

So they looked around to find anything that was even slightly off the books as an excuse to give Tech a significant punishment.

The vacated title was entirely on the NCAA’s bullshit. Neither on CPJ nor on DRad.
 
stinger78 said:
Here's the skinny:
“We didn’t spend a lot of time on uniforms,” Johnson said. “And swag. We worked on trying to play hard-nosed, tough football and be blue collar.”
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Honestly, this was a fault with CPJ though. Kids today (heck, 90% of the old farts on this board) do care about uniforms and swag.

The difference though is that if the right balance between blue collar football and uniforms is 95:5, CPJ was more like 98:2. Collins, OTOH, was like 20:80.
 
savbandjacket said:
He got defensive and stopped saying as much when we were losing.
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Part of the problem was that the moment we lost the focus would be entirely on our offense. When the reality was that even at its worst our offense was pretty average.
The real problem for Tech was the defense, and basically he had run out of ideas about fixing the defense.
 
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