Johnson reflects on the train wreck that was Collins

RamblinWreck92 said:
It's actually the opposte. Scheme was more important to the dozen or so PJ Fan Club fans who followed PJ over here from Southern and who signed on here the day he arrived. Rushing Stats > Wins to that group. PJ himself showed how much he valued Rushing Stats with his little jibe about "We led the nation in rushing in 2018" comment in this article. Well coach, when you're 4th from the bottom in Team Passing and you hand it off as often as your teams did, you damn well better be near the top in Rushing :lol2:
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You're probaby right about that. Others like myself knew nothing about the flexbone but came to admire the complexity of the offense and the physical nature of his teams. I liked the blocking schemes, the battles in the trenches. More than anything, I loved we beat people up. Opposing teams left GT games hurting. Bottom line though none of that really mattered, but scoring points does. We scored a lot and often it was enough to win. I, like many had tired of 7 wins under Chan and wanted occasional great seasons even if we had to have occasional bad ones. We got it on the back of Johnson's great offenses & mediocre defenses. We even won some tough games against tough competition. We always had a chance to win.

The number of rushing yards was impressive, more impressive is the fact we had the #1 offense in 2014. I'm guessing you'd rather have an ineffective 100th ranked offense with 50% of the yards passing, than a #1 ranked offense with only 10% passing yards? That makes absolutely no sense to me, but if football without passing is not your thing I get it. We did have the 19th best offense in 2018 even when that offense was poor by Johnson's standards. We traded for something better, the pass happy option but instead of getting better we got massively worse, then we got even worse and now we're so close to the bottom it's hard to get worse from here. What we did was horrific giving up our prime running advantage without installing a viabe passing option. Crazy.

Lastly, soft is not something you heard about our football team until 2019. In fact over 5 decades I never heard our team referred to as soft until the clown. It was not a good thing. We lacked talent but make up with it by hard work and brains, even at the depths of Curry's misery we were never soft. Soft is nice in a pillow, a bed, paper to wipe your ass with. A soft football team is not good. We're soft & that was our culture under the clown. They got a hug and a participation trophy.

It was time for Johnson to go. He was an old tired dog. He gave plenty of notice and Re-Todd ööööed it up. He picked an atrocious coach, way over his head, unprepared and inexperienced, a snake oil salesman, then he failed to act when he should have realized how bad a selection it was. Pride and hubris got in the way. Now we are here.
 
Great class. Great coach. Great interview. Proud to have had him here and I loved our identity in that period. It ran its course (11 years is a LONG TIME) and for a lot of reasons it was time for it to end. He ended it like someone who was appreciative of the time despite a lot of discussion about being underfunded.

Then ADTS missed on the replacement after Geoff absolutely killed an interview that very few wouldn’t have been taken in by and also standing on success as a DC in the almighty ESSEESEE. Pick all that apart however you wantyou Monday morning nerds. ‘But I said xyz in 2017’. You were just being a dick. You didn’t know anything.

The tale of the tape on our demise is greatly overstated.
Johnson was great. Collins was bad. People who say Deion are crazy.

# HIRE CBK
 
Liberty said:
You're probaby right about that. Others like myself knew nothing about the flexbone but came to admire the complexity of the offense and the physical nature of his teams. I liked the blocking schemes, the battles in the trenches. More than anything, I loved we beat people up. Opposing teams left GT games hurting. Bottom line though none of that really mattered, but scoring points does. We scored a lot and often it was enough to win. I, like many had tired of 7 wins under Chan and wanted occasional great seasons even if we had to have occasional bad ones. We got it on the back of Johnson's great offenses & mediocre defenses. We even won some tough games against tough competition. We always had a chance to win.

The number of rushing yards was impressive, more impressive is the fact we had the #1 offense in 2014. I'm guessing you'd rather have an ineffective 100th ranked offense with 50% of the yards passing, than a #1 ranked offense with only 10% passing yards? That makes absolutely no sense to me, but if football without passing is not your thing I get it. We did have the 19th best offense in 2018 even when that offense was poor by Johnson's standards. We traded for something better, the pass happy option but instead of getting better we got massively worse, then we got even worse and now we're so close to the bottom it's hard to get worse from here. What we did was horrific giving up our prime running advantage without installing a viabe passing option. Crazy.

Lastly, soft is not something you heard about our football team until 2019. In fact over 5 decades I never heard our team referred to as soft until the clown. It was not a good thing. We lacked talent but make up with it by hard work and brains, even at the depths of Curry's misery we were never soft. Soft is nice in a pillow, a bed, paper to wipe your ass with. A soft football team is not good. We're soft & that was our culture under the clown. They got a hug and a participation trophy.

It was time for Johnson to go. He was an old tired dog. He gave plenty of notice and Re-Todd ööööed it up. He picked an atrocious coach, way over his head, unprepared and inexperienced, a snake oil salesman, then he failed to act when he should have realized how bad a selection it was. Pride and hubris got in the way. Now we are here.
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It is possible to not care for a one-sided offensive approach while also hating everything Clown Coach bestowed upon us.

2014 was an awesome offense that still managed to lose to 3x. 2018 wasn't awesome. Stats don't show the Clemson, Duke and mutt DLs hurtling over our flopping, dive-blocking OL and stuffing the run inside and out nor how painfully bad we were when we needed to throw the football.

I agree - PJ had a nice run here and deserves the accolades he received and the millions of $$$ he was paid and T-Stan ööööed up his replacement hire. Hopefully BattMan will do better.
 
MeatWrench said:
Great class. Great coach. Great interview. Proud to have had him here and I loved our identity in that period. It ran its course (11 years is a LONG TIME) and for a lot of reasons it was time for it to end. He ended it like someone who was appreciative of the time despite a lot of discussion about being underfunded.

Then ADTS missed on the replacement after Geoff absolutely killed an interview that very few wouldn’t have been taken in by and also standing on success as a DC in the almighty ESSEESEE. Pick all that apart however you wantyou Monday morning nerds. ‘But I said xyz in 2017’. You were just being a dick. You didn’t know anything.

The tale of the tape on our demise is greatly overstated.
Johnson was great. Collins was bad. People who say Deion are crazy.

# HIRE CBK
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You mean like Key and OL at Alabama? Or O'Brien and OC at Alabama?
 
I think what CPJ really needed to get off his chest was that Collins lied about his program. He was clearly upset with the repeated lament that he inherited a line that averaged 260 pounds and the oft repeated line that high school coaches in the area were happy to get attention from Collins because they never heard from the previous staff. Both of those statements were lies by Collins, if Paul Johnson is being truthful. He pointed out that Collins trashing the state of the program he inherited cost him relationships with ten years worth of Tech players.
 
77GTFan said:
I think what CPJ really needed to get off his chest was that Collins lied about his program. He was clearly upset with the repeated lament that he inherited a line that averaged 260 pounds and the oft repeated line that high school coaches in the area were happy to get attention from Collins because they never heard from the previous staff. Both of those statements were lies by Collins, if Paul Johnson is being truthful. He pointed out that Collins trashing the state of the program he inherited cost him relationships with ten years worth of Tech players.
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This was my takeaway as well. CPJ just wanted to set a couple of facts straight.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
It is possible to not care for a one-sided offensive approach while also hating everything Clown Coach bestowed upon us.
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Frankly I can't think of a single thing the cown bestowed upon us worthy of praise. We fundraised more and grew the size & cost of the staff? I supposed that's a positive.
 
How long before CPJ returns for his HOF induction?

How long before we start playing Dwyer/DT/JT/Nesbitt highlights on pre game again Jumbotron? Felt like Scooter had a hand in wiping those out
 
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