NC State Post Game Thread

Sims played OK. He's impressive to watch run. He glides, and he's incredibly slippery. Last week on a keeper against Duke, it looked like he just melted through the hole for a first down, something right out of Skynet.
We know we can run the ball, regardless of the RB in there.
Run defense was surprisingly good today. Knight and Person vs. our run D scared me and NC State really did not do much at all running the ball against us.
And no turnovers.
Now for the other side of the coin.
But the penalties were infuriating. There also doesn't seem to be any individual consequences for the penalties.
Yeah, we were missing guys. The secondary, though, is probably where we have the most numbers.
At this stage of the year, everybody has injuries. Hasn't NC State played 11 straight weeks?
Bet FSU wishes the Hockman kid had stayed. He's not bad.

This was a completely winnable game. And we didn't win it. The Pack had squeaked by Wake, Pitt, Liberty and Syracuse (who just finished their season at 1-10. Let that sink in a minute.) They got hammered pretty good in two of their three losses.
So I'm not going to sit here and say we're about to turn a corner. We're not still good. In fact, we're bad. I don't have very much faith at all in this staff. Of 15 losses in not quite two seasons, 13 have come by 10 or more points. Granted, two of those are by ... 10 points. But that's double-digit losses in 13 of 21 games in the CGC tenure.
We need to see six wins at the minimum from this program next year, somehow, some way. I have my doubts CGC can deliver that.
 
Penalties....How do good coaches fix that? Film work? Teaching during group meetings? Is it a drill thing on the field? Technique? PI is one thing (usually out of desperation for getting beat..) but the holding and false starts....
 
andrew said:
What's the ratio of STDollars to butthurt futures?
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Let's put it this way, only the posters who think Collins should be on the hottseat are still hoarding butthurt futures. 99.9% of StingTalk moms accept and practically devour STDollars.
 
gtrower said:
Youre sorry that you don’t understand that a true frosh might need to be taught proper mechanics for throwing on the run? Don’t be sorry about that.
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He's not accurate in the pocket, either. It's not just mechanics. If if was just mechanics, with all the top flight coaching they've had, by this point Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield would be accurate passers.

Don't be sorry that you don't understand jack$#!t about football. Be sorry that you apparently are not smart enough to listen to hose who know better. Meanwhile I'll just bookmark your post and predict right now that when he is still not an accurate passer by this time next year, you'll blame the coaching - not the fact that he lacks the innate ability.
 
1982Jacket said:
He's not accurate in the pocket, either. It's not just mechanics. If if was just mechanics, with all the top flight coaching they've had, by this point Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield would be accurate passers.

Don't be sorry that you don't understand jack$#!t about football. Be sorry that you apparently are not smart enough to listen to hose who know better. Meanwhile I'll just bookmark your post and predict right now that when he is still not an accurate passer by this time next year, you'll blame the coaching - not the fact that he lacks the innate ability.
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If Sims is as accurate as any of those, I will take it.
 
wesleyd21 said:
What was with our wide receivers “just jogging routes” according to the announcers.

We got a bunch of “loafers” on the team at WR???
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I also want to know this. Anyone remember about when in the game the announcers said that?
 
1982Jacket said:
He's not accurate in the pocket, either. It's not just mechanics. If if was just mechanics, with all the top flight coaching they've had, by this point Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield would be accurate passers.

Don't be sorry that you don't understand jack$#!t about football. Be sorry that you apparently are not smart enough to listen to hose who know better. Meanwhile I'll just bookmark your post and predict right now that when he is still not an accurate passer by this time next year, you'll blame the coaching - not the fact that he lacks the innate ability.
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Your example of inaccurate passing is a QB who won a Heisman, a BCS championship, and a super bowl?

Boy I either need more whiskey or less whiskey. But whatever, I'll be very happy if Sims is only as good as Cam Newton.
 
joeye said:
Penalties....How do good coaches fix that? Film work? Teaching during group meetings? Is it a drill thing on the field? Technique? PI is one thing (usually out of desperation for getting beat..) but the holding and false starts....
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You fix penalties by getting up the ass of the players who get stupid penalties....especially the personal foul variety. We do the opposite. Our goofiness is starting to look Miami variety.
 
1982Jacket said:
He's not accurate in the pocket, either. It's not just mechanics. If if was just mechanics, with all the top flight coaching they've had, by this point Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield would be accurate passers.
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Really odd set of players to use to try to demonstrate that you can't coach passing accuracy. All three of those quarterbacks ended up having incredibly succesful college careers and two of them won NFL MVP awards.

Sure none of them are Peyton Manning but you don't win MVP in the NFL as a QB without being at least a serviceable passer.

If those players are the model for what Sims can become, the future is bright indeed.
 
The Jacket said:
I also want to know this. Anyone remember about when in the game the announcers said that?
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I think it was in the 2nd quarter. Wanna say 5-10 minutes in but not sure on the specifics
 
1982Jacket said:
He's not accurate in the pocket, either. It's not just mechanics. If if was just mechanics, with all the top flight coaching they've had, by this point Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield would be accurate passers.

Don't be sorry that you don't understand jack$#!t about football. Be sorry that you apparently are not smart enough to listen to hose who know better. Meanwhile I'll just bookmark your post and predict right now that when he is still not an accurate passer by this time next year, you'll blame the coaching - not the fact that he lacks the innate ability.
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Lamar college C% progression by year:
54.7, 56.2, 59.1

Cam (small sample size):
50, 50, 66.1

Baker:
64.1, 68.1, 70.9, 70.5

But please, bookmark away oh wise one.
 
TampaBayJacket said:
I'm not a huge Sims fan so far but I have to disagree on this point. I think almost everything about QB is coachable as long as you have a minimum level of talent to execute the coaching. Sims clearly has a great deal of raw talent and will only get better.
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What evidence do you have that Sims has the "minimum level of talent" to be a consistently accurate passer?

Sure, of COURSE I would love to believe he is going to be an accurate passer! What would be better for Tech football, which I have cheered for EVERY GAME for more than 40 years. We've had a QB deficit for 20 years. God how I would love to have a Sunshine or even a Kyle Flask or Zach Wilson pulling the trigger behind center.

But I just cannot be Blind Homer. Sorry. Not able to do it. I llive in Realville and experience tells me that it is extremely unlikely that Sims becomes an accurate passer. I remember all the hype about Jameis Winston. His redshirt freshman stats were incredible - and if you just looked at stats he looked "can't miss." But it only took a couple of games actually watching him play to see that he was not an accurate passer (although a lot more accurate than Sims). Seven years later, and nothing about that has ever changed. It hardly ever does.

I get it. You're a homer. You want to wish it into existence. But why don't you wish in one hand and crap in the other and tell us which fills up first.

No one would be happier than me to be wrong about this. But I'm not.
 
The Jacket said:
I also want to know this. Anyone remember about when in the game the announcers said that?
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I think it was in the 3rd quarter (and maybe inferred more than once during the game); but why bother looking it up since you think they were mindless talking slime?
 
1982Jacket said:
He's not accurate in the pocket, either. It's not just mechanics. If if was just mechanics, with all the top flight coaching they've had, by this point Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield would be accurate passers.

Don't be sorry that you don't understand jack$#!t about football. Be sorry that you apparently are not smart enough to listen to hose who know better. Meanwhile I'll just bookmark your post and predict right now that when he is still not an accurate passer by this time next year, you'll blame the coaching - not the fact that he lacks the innate ability.
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Your glory days are behind you and no one considers you an expert on football.
 
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