ND Postgame Thread
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Harvey Middleton was maybe the most reliable pass catcher we’ve ever had and Steagall was a big time threat before White/Campbell/Watkins.
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I agree but disagree, we really really need to get about 4 or 5 ASAP. Maybe two or three could be juco or grad transfer.
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Freshman quarterbacks missing receivers is not, i assure you, an indicator of future success. Missing receivers is the least of my concerns. Sims will fix that in the film room. Bank on it. You guys that are being critical of Sims are morons.
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Yeah, I don't get the focus on Sims. He and Gibbs are about the only way we score. Imagine this year's defense with last year's 3 and out offense. Yikes.
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Because no matter how many mods you pack into a Civic, it’s not going to be a Porsche.
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The gap has shrunk but it is about more than just lbs. Think about Southers last year and R. Johnson this year. Biggest and best we can put on the field and weren't necessarily starting on their old teams.
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Technique too. In many ways, any offensive linemen who aren't transfers are more like true sophomores in experience. Lot of blocking stuff in this offense that they wouldn't of needed to ever even think about in the option offense. Don't know how prevalent it would be normally, but any player-to-player kind of coaching that might normally happen won't in that position group.
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This. Some of you seem to forget we don’t have an offensive line.
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7 year contract means you start judging in year 3.
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Does this mean his body of work during years 1-2 is irrelevant? As in we look at Year 3 as though it’s a completely fresh slate?
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Year 1 is a free pass. This year, you judge as year 1.
And I mean in terms of record. You can judge anything else.
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I feel like this is a riddle now:
what once was first is now second but can’t be seen until third. What am I?
A: the track record of a new college football head coach with a 7-year contract.
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I edited while you were replying. When I say judge, I mean wins and losses. You can judge other stuff. Me, I don't care that much how we look at the moment. I am more about the destination than the journey. We aren't doing a gradual transition. We tore it to the ground. So we may see more of a sudden jump rather than incremental progress
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In my opinion, next year will be when we can start figuring out what the coaches are independent of all the other öööö, though the year after that will be the big measure. Maybe it would of been this year some idk, but covid was a thing and we didn't really get offseason practice.
To me, there's just too much different öööö wrong right now to be able to point and say "aha, now we know the coaches are bad". The lines are kind of the backbone of the offense and defense, if they are too broke everything falls over. They are also the areas that are usually the hardest and slowest to build and we need major rebuilding on both. The defensive line has been a weakness for years and most of the offensive linemen were recruited and trained to do something completely different or at best little practiced before last year. The lines aren't the only problems either.
It's not to say the coaches are definitely good or they haven't erred in any way or that we don't suck right now, but we got fundamental problems that have certain time requirements to be fixed right.
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Regarding Sims, he could have picked up a1st down for us in the first half if he had turned upfield and taken on some tacklers, instead he chose to scamper OB short of the line to make. Also he has to get better at sensing pressure in the pocket and quit dropping the ball on the ground at contact.
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I use kind of the same example. I normally tell folks no matter how much I practiced, I was never gonna be Michael Jordan on the courts. There are baseball pitchers who have a regimen of diet, stretching, exercise, who will never be Nolan Ryan.
We have got to get better recruits on the lines. We have some good skill players.
UGAg is a fine example. Their QB is extremely mediocre. However, their OL is nearly NFL in skill level and size. Same for their DL. Dominant players. UGAg has NFL caliber LB's and DB's. Their defense has almost no weak point. Their star LB, can't remember his name, would probably be good for a victory or two just having him anchor our defense.
How many times has our MLB been in position to make a tackle and just missed? In position, has the angle, just out run or just not having the physical stature to deliver a punishing hit. Not able to wrap up because he just doesn't have the body type of a dominant LB. He works extremely hard. He plays extremely hard. I'm sure he practices hard. I'm sure he works out hard. He just is at his development ceiling.
We have got to get better recruits on the lines immediately. I said last week that if we signed 15 OL and DL this season and filled out the class with LB's and a few DB's, I'd be happy.