ND Postgame Thread

gt6828d said:
Feels like they've got one, maybe two more wins left on this schedule that are gettable barring some massive improvements we've yet to see this season. Going to be a long, hard offseason if that's how this all plays out.
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I don't think the offseason is going to be as bad as it would have been with an L to uG to end the season. If we can get to 4 wins and nab a bowl invite that would be amazing.
 
I am frustrated but we didn't play a bad game yesterday. ND is simply a far better team right now. At least we were in the game this time.

The OL struggled against #9 in particular, both sides. Our freshman OT who has been great this year, looked like a lost freshman. It happens, he will grow from it.
But our TE's are really not helping at all. In third quarter with a stacked blitz coming on the right side, our TE does not set the edge and Sims gets killed. That one was kind of hard to understand. We need deep snappers to go back to their job, bulked up WR's go back to their position and a couple of stud TE's to come in and bulk up quickly.

Generally our players are just not big playmakers. At about 8 positions on defense, we just do not have athletic, beat your opponent players.

Our DB's played a lot better, and generally the team fought hard and kept it close deep into the game. Congrats to them on that.

p.s. We have studs at RB, I wish OL out there that are ready to start would reconsider us.
p.p.s. We are very very young, and missed a spring training camp which affected us much more than others.
 
smokey_wasp said:
I edited while you were replying. When I say judge, I mean wins and losses. You can judge other stuff. Me, I don't care that much how we look at the moment. I am more about the destination than the journey. We aren't doing a gradual transition. We tore it to the ground. So we may see more of a sudden jump rather than incremental progress
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That’s fair. I never really judge my opinion of a coach on wins and losses except maybe UGA record. My opinion of CGC as a bad prepared is based on team discipline, first half outcomes, and turnovers. I think he can improve but I want to see it this year.
 
midatlantech said:
But our TE's are really not helping at all. In third quarter with a stacked blitz coming on the right side, our TE does not set the edge and Sims gets killed. That one was kind of hard to understand. We need deep snappers to go back to their job, bulked up WR's go back to their position and a couple of stud TE's to come in and bulk up quickly.
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Thinking about it, this might be why we're recruiting a couple of TE's this year too. I think there was some discussion of how many we want on roster, but ya it's not like all our current TE's are really TE's.
 
Collins has been forced to play nice by honoring commitments made under Johnson and by having to be careful on the processsing side to keep the players happy and the players from each coach not turn on each other. I gotta believe that is about to end and Collins is about to have an off season that makes this “his” team. Collins will be judged starting in year 3 so it’s not fair to him if he can’t take total control of the roster. We hired him because of his experience at big boy football so let him bring that to GT.
 
Also, Collins is putting in place many of the culture things that will be effective once we have a roster full of his recruits. You can just wait and start that in year 3. That means that the young people have to earn their spot and not just get it because they are more talented.

Curry works very hard and does everything off the field that he is asked to. You can’t start a freshman over him that hasn’t learned to do that. You need that Freshman to learn from Curry and then as a Soph/Jr prepare as Curry. That is the goal.
 
We’ve had a decent amount of attrition from non-contributors. I don’t know much of that is natural versus strongly recommended by the staff... and I don’t really care to know. As long as he still has room to sign 22-25 per class, plus take a few transfers then really no reason to force more unless you have division within the locker room.
 
JJacket said:
Agreed. I gave the TE's low marks because they just seem to disappear into the game. ND is a great example of what TE's can be, and as it is, top level TE's are now flocking to ND.
Our RB position is by far the strongest position on the team. Our DL is our weakest, although full of FR, RS-FR, sophomores.

Our OL has played well sporadically. There are plays where the pass blocking looks solid, bit then plays where we just leave a DL or DE unblocked to run unchecked to the QB. Our QB needs consistent play by the OL so he can get better at progressions and check downs.

And dammit, I would like to see a count this season of how many 10+ yard scrambles QB's have made against us. It is almost as if all our DL's, DE'S, LB's get pushed outside leaving a red sea style parting of the LOS.
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Yesterday when we had a good pass rush, if the QB ever evaded it, there was nobody in the middle of the field to keep him from gaining 20 yards.
 
GTRules said:
Well, this is an idiotic post.
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Almost as idiotic as the guy who thinks Collins 25ish recruits should be replacing all of the CPJ starters despite the fact there was no spring practice and a COVID fall camp.
 
knoxjacket said:
Almost as idiotic as the guy who thinks Collins 25ish recruits should be replacing all of the CPJ starters despite the fact there was no spring practice and a COVID fall camp.
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I like the cut of your jib.
 
knoxjacket said:
Almost as idiotic as the guy who thinks Collins 25ish recruits should be replacing all of the CPJ starters despite the fact there was no spring practice and a COVID fall camp.
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Yeah, there is a lot of that going on.

Same people that think any comment on the quality of the roster is criticism of Johnson, also think so poorly of those players that true freshman should have replaced them from day 1.

Bottomline is improved recruiting will not show up in results until year 3/4. The hope was that good coaching might coverup for talent before then.
 
There is no coaching scheme to cover up the size disparities along the lines we see every week let alone yesterday. Ask Saban about his Mich St. days. Guys like Wing Green are simply not ready as true freshmen. But, once they do see the field they won’t have lost before the play even starts. Right now, of the 11 positions on the field we are losing each play 9-2 or 8-3 before the snap. Yesterday it was 10-1 with Gibbs being our 1. Heck, ND had 4 tight ends that we had no one who could match up with any of them. Recruiting and the portal is the only answer. As for kickers, we have about 15 fraternity houses within a 5 minute walk from Collins office. Open tryout on Tuesday and we’ll find one or at least try.
 
MACHETE said:
True but Sims holds on to the ball too long. No quick release. Both of his fumbles could have been avoided.
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On one of them he had zero time. No QB would have gotten the ball off in time unless it was a called quick pass.

You have to plan on your tackle at least giving you slight help. He didn’t on that play.
 
vapspwi said:
We looked bad on O and D at times today, but despite all that, we were a couple of plays from making it interesting until late in the game. Not great, but could have been worse.

Notre Dame is good but overrated, as usual.

JRjr
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Couldn't disagree more. ND was in a spot to keep it vanilla, survive and stay healthy for Clempsum. that's why line was so low. with any incentive at all, they are 30-40 points better than us. ND will give the trailer trash a game, for certain. they'll play twice this year, at a minimum.
 
gtchief said:
I don't think the offseason is going to be as bad as it would have been with an L to uG to end the season. If we can get to 4 wins and nab a bowl invite that would be amazing.
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I disagree because guys aren't progressing/developing at any kind of appreciable rate. It's not my job to say if that means shuffling coordinators or position coaches, but it does put more urgency on whoever the coaches are to push the kids to have a VERY productive offseason that shows up in the win column next season. "Give it time, they're converting from the 3O" loses its shelf life in year three, IMO.
 
Just watched most of the game, I only got to watch til we tied it up yesterday. (That was awesome.)

Really impressed with the effort of our guys. The defense didn't shame the Black Watch uniforms. Lots of big hits and aggressiveness.

We were close at times to big plays, Sims with a couple overthrows on open guys deep, not converting 4th down. But he threw a strike to Camp deep. I don't agree with writing him off as never going to be anything special. He's a true freshman and he makes good decisions a lot of the time. Definitely has the arm & legs. The fumble was just a guy blindsiding him, that one's on another true freshman.

Notre Dame's offensive line was massive and clearly we need to improve our size on the defensive front to compete with teams like that.
 
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