1982Jacket
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We ride with Gibson from here on out.
I generally agree with most of your comments on this thread. Folks here have gotten so used to watching poor QB play by Sims that anything even slightly better (and IMO Pyron has been that) must seem like the second coming of Peyton Manning. The one hopeful thing I have seen is that Pyron seems to be much more consistetly accurate than Sims (and what a low bar that is). Not great, mind you, but much better than Sims, who has been inaccurate since Day One - and who I said was inaccurate since FSU when folks here were ready to nominate him for the Heisman and mosdef did NOT want to hear about his shortcomings as a passer.Maybe your expectations are much lower than mine. I want above average or better. I am seeing much different things. Poor mechanics, lack of field awareness and lack of arm are hard things to correct.
Generally agree. I don’t think anyone is saying he’s the next coming of Peyton Manning. For one he’s too short. But he has a capable arm, can hurt defenses when he scrambles, and seems to have a good head for making plays generally. As a true frosh that shows a lot of potential for improvement imo. Seriously doubt he becomes an NFL prospect before his eligibility expires but can see a possibility for that by his senior year. Could win a bunch of games prior to that and that’s what really matters.I generally agree with most of your comments on this thread. Folks here have gotten so used to watching poor QB play by Sims that anything even slightly better (and IMO Pyron has been that) must seem like the second coming of Peyton Manning. The one hopeful thing I have seen is that Pyron seems to be much more consistetly accurate than Sims (and what a low bar that is). Not great, mind you, but much better than Sims, who has been inaccurate since Day One - and who I said was inaccurate since FSU when folks here were ready to nominate him for the Heisman and mosdef did NOT want to hear about his shortcomings as a passer.
Having said all that . . . I disagree completely that poor mechanics is a hard thing to fix on the same level as arm strength (which isn't really even "strength" and is pretty much unfixable) and lack of field awareness (rarely fixable). Poor mechanics and poor footwork (which often go hand in hand) are absolutely fixable with good coaching and with hard word, dedication, and desire by the QB himself. Even (rarely) as late as their arrival in the NFL.
I view Pyron as a servicable stand-in until we land an "above average" QB, especially if he gets better coaching to improve those mechanics, a better supporting cast, and better playcalling. It's not saying much, but he's the best we've had since CGC shuffled in from the Waffle House. And maybe (?) as good a throwing QB as we've had . . . since Taylor Bennett, even considering guys like Nesbitt and Thomas, given that he is a true Freshman.
I hope we see him back on The Flats next year.
Comparing an known variable to an unknown variable? Until he hits that level, I remain in my opinion.Was Hamilton “ready” as a freshman? No.
Pyron is 6’3”.Generally agree. I don’t think anyone is saying he’s the next coming of Peyton Manning. For one he’s too short. But he has a capable arm, can hurt defenses when he scrambles, and seems to have a good head for making plays generally. As a true frosh that shows a lot of potential for improvement imo. Seriously doubt he becomes an NFL prospect before his eligibility expires but can see a possibility for that by his senior year. Could win a bunch of games prior to that and that’s what really matters.
Maybe you're right. However, based on what I have seen, its a far stretch. Either you have it or you don't. Maybe in 2 years, he will reach the level you and others think. I just don't know if we can be that patient. I won't be shocked to see a QB brought in from the portal. If we get the right HC. It would be my first move.I generally agree with most of your comments on this thread. Folks here have gotten so used to watching poor QB play by Sims that anything even slightly better (and IMO Pyron has been that) must seem like the second coming of Peyton Manning. The one hopeful thing I have seen is that Pyron seems to be much more consistetly accurate than Sims (and what a low bar that is). Not great, mind you, but much better than Sims, who has been inaccurate since Day One - and who I said was inaccurate since FSU when folks here were ready to nominate him for the Heisman and mosdef did NOT want to hear about his shortcomings as a passer.
Having said all that . . . I disagree completely that poor mechanics is a hard thing to fix on the same level as arm strength (which isn't really even "strength" and is pretty much unfixable) and lack of field awareness (rarely fixable). Poor mechanics and poor footwork (which often go hand in hand) are absolutely fixable with good coaching and with hard word, dedication, and desire by the QB himself. Even (rarely) as late as their arrival in the NFL.
I view Pyron as a servicable stand-in until we land an "above average" QB, especially if he gets better coaching to improve those mechanics, a better supporting cast, and better playcalling. It's not saying much, but he's the best we've had since CGC shuffled in from the Waffle House. And maybe (?) as good a throwing QB as we've had . . . since Taylor Bennett, even considering guys like Nesbitt and Thomas, given that he is a true Freshman.
I hope we see him back on The Flats next year.
We ride with Gibson from here on out.
We on a lot of drugs with Gibson!
It's already too late. Odds are that you will be juuuuuuuuuust sober enough to feel the pain.Serious question, when do we start drinking in preparation for COFH22? If I haven’t started yet am I already behind the StinGTalk status quo?
Pyron is NOT the future. He lacks the necessary skill set.
Most Tech fans love Zach P. and hope he stays through the coaching transition. Jmonty was temporarily insane when he posted that. We need to find a great new head coach who can maximize his obvious talent.Out of curiosity, what's your background or experience regarding how to play QB?
Don't worry about individual comments. There will always be someone critical...Out of curiosity, what's your background or experience regarding how to play QB?
Don't worry about individual comments. There will always be someone critical...
My background: Years on a messageboard.