Official post-game bitch session

Never said we wouldn’t miss a beat. But our coaches knew all week who the QB would be and we came out with 0 TD’s. And we weren’t playing a ranked team. VT is not a quality team and we got easily beat.

And the OLine has stepped backwards but I also don’t think the vanilla offensive gameplan helps them. Everyone knows what we run so they can pin back their ears and attack.
 
OptionJacket said:
Never said we wouldn’t miss a beat. But our coaches knew all week who the QB would be and we came out with 0 TD’s. And we weren’t playing a ranked team. VT is not a quality team and we got easily beat.

And the OLine has stepped backwards but I also don’t think the vanilla offensive gameplan helps them. Everyone knows what we run so they can pin back their ears and attack.
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VT (who blew the Vandy game twice, and was a refs aided call away from beating Miami) has a lot to play for still. @ Syracuse, Clemson, @ Duke, UVA. Win 3/4 and they finish 8-4. VT is a pretty solid team overall.

You game plan to the pieces you have. Right now it’s kind of obvious the team who is run heavy to open the pass knows they can’t get the running game going right now. What is CBF supposed to do at this point? It seems more of a skill position depth issue now.
 
USCJacket said:
VT (who blew the Vandy game twice, and was a refs aided call away from beating Miami) has a lot to play for still. @ Syracuse, Clemson, @ Duke, UVA. Win 3/4 and they finish 8-4. VT is a pretty solid team overall.

You game plan to the pieces you have. Right now it’s kind of obvious the team who is run heavy to open the pass knows they can’t get the running game going right now. What is CBF supposed to do at this point? It seems more of a skill position depth issue now.
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CBF had all off season and all fall practice and now 2 months of this season to not be in this position. That we are entering November and are essentially lost on offense speaks volumes about our preparation. I don’t have the answers because I don’t get paid large salaries to spend 24 hours a day to prepare a game plan. Those who do are clearly getting it wrong as we’ve just witnessed 8 quarters of low level football over the past 8 days. I am no longer of the belief that the best players are playing just because our coaches say so, ie. I question there judgment. We now have 2 weeks until Miami and it’s hard for me to have any belief that our coaches will have us ready. I want to be wrong.
 
OptionJacket said:
I see no way this team of this year beats the team we were in the Gasparilla bowl. We improved all along last year. This year we have not. Sure, King has thrown less picks but it’s because we’ve gone conservative and played meh offense. Jamaal has fallen off the map this season. King had 27 TD passes last season. He has 8 so far this year. The only area we have improved as a team is on defense. Offense and special teams have taken steps back. And the intangibles just aren’t there. We can get it back next year but it takes more than words in press conferences. We have become a soft team with little fight. All we can do is have faith the coaches will get the fight back into the team.
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We are off about 0.5 pts a game from last year. King’s tds are down, but the team is scoring essentially the same. At the same time, King is throwing about a quarter of the interceptions he threw last year.

The defense last year was bad. There is no comparison.

Special teams are bad this year on punting, place kicking, and punt defense. They were bad on punt defense last year, so regression there.

This team, healthy, beats last years bowl team.
 
justafan said:
Not sure Philo is the guy either. Good zip on his passes but doesn't look dual threat and a bunch of his passes were off target. Maybe his accuracy and decisionmaking will improve but there is nothing to do about the running ability

King is the guy
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I think he’s our answer to QB post King era. He has command of the offense and pocket presence and awareness. He didn’t break the GHSA hs yardage record of T Lawrence’s for nothing. If King plays today, we win. Key put Philo in when I expected. He gave Pyron just enough chances to salvage his performance. If not for timely dropped passes, Philo scores on one or both of those drives. The INT was because our WR let the ball go right through his hands. #12 almost had 200 yds passing in 1.5 quarters of play. He needs to be crisper on his shorter passes but he was playing hurry up from when he went in. Most teams will hurt when they lose their starting QB. Whether they get hurt or if you’re too loyal to one you invested in who is disaster (ask F$Us head coach). The only team right now that can afford to lose their starting QB and not skip a beat is Texas. We are still trying to build true depth in the 2nd string. We are extremely thin at several positions and it shows. We played well enough to win if we had our normal offensive production had King played. I just hope he’s available for Miami and the rest of the season. If not, Philo is our best chance to move the offense right now if King can’t go. Hats off to the D today, Birr and our punter.
 
gt9589 said:
I think he’s our answer to QB post King era. He has command of the offense and pocket presence and awareness. He didn’t break the GHSA hs yardage record of T Lawrence’s for nothing. If King plays today, we win. Key put Philo in when I expected. He gave Pyron just enough chances to salvage his performance. If not for timely dropped passes, Philo scores on one or both of those drives. The INT was because our WR let the ball go right through his hands. #12 almost had 200 yds passing in 1.5 quarters of play. He needs to be crisper on his shorter passes but he was playing hurry up from when he went in. Most teams will hurt when they lose their starting QB. Whether they get hurt or if you’re too loyal to one you invested in who is disaster (ask F$Us head coach). The only team right now that can afford to lose their starting QB and not skip a beat is Texas. We are still trying to build true depth in the 2nd string. We are extremely thin at several positions and it shows. We played well enough to win if we had our normal offensive production had King played. I just hope he’s available for Miami and the rest of the season. If not, Philo is our best chance to move the offense right now if King can’t go. Hats off to the D today, Birr and our punter.
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Philo does have a special arm. Reminds me of Baker Mayfield. We'll see how it shakes out.
 
GT ran 81 plays and scored 6 points … go figure. Philo looks like a star in the making, I hope we can keep him.
 
WR, DB, and special teams coaches need to be replaced in the offseason
 
madRazor said:
Philo is gonna be unstoppable, shades of a freshman year Bill Brasky
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When I saw he committed I thought he was the steal of the class. He was UTR because he wasn't 6'3" or taller. If you had seen him in hs and the playoffs you would have been very impressed. It carried to the spring game and we saw a glimpse of it yesterday. Coaches and programs will live and die by what QB is at the helm. They'll either look like geniuses or idiots. Pyron was a gamer last year in the VT game. A dual threat who isn't afraid to run. I was hoping that he wouldn't have been stymied yesterday but he just couldn't get in sync. Faulkner's offense is similar to what they were running at Philo's hs. If King is still injured and can't play when Miami comes to town, both QBs will have to be ready and bring their A game if something happens to the other.
 
In two weeks, if King can't play and Key starts Pyron over Philo, it's time to start seriously questioning the viability of Key and CBF as to there abilities as coaches. They have these two weeks for prep towards game planning for the rookie. The team seemed to rally around Philo when he entered the game.
 
WracerX said:
This team, healthy, beats last years bowl team.
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What does that even mean and you do realize that means nothing. This is a team sport where injuries ALWAYS happen. That we are in a position where 1 player out of 85 defines our season is crazy and goes against everything our head coach says about next man up. As an earlier poster noted, we ran 81 plays and scored 6 points. That should not happen if our team is prepared. Losing King hurts, but the entire season shouldn’t collapse especially against unranked teams. Am I suppose to believe our practices involve King getting all the reps while the other guys stand on the side flipping footballs in the air?

The bottom line is we are not getting better. The margin of us competing is getting less. I’m rooting for this staff and hope our last 3 games we get dialed back in to compete (I’m not even concerned about winning anymore). I just want to see progress because if we stay stagnant the off season could get ugly.
 
This can't be a good sign...

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USCJacket said:
How many teams have you seen this year who have lost their starting QB and not missed a beat? Heck, Michigan, FSU, Auburn, etc can’t even figure out 1 QB at this point. So King’s injury is not an excuse, it’s a major impact.

The real issue isn’t just playing a backup QB. The running game against middle to good teams just hasn’t really shown up well this year. That goes back to the play of the OL. Something is just off right now. Or it very well could be, teams have a year + worth of tape / scouting to prepare for GT’s blocking schemes.
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Harder to run when the QB isn’t a threat to throw. It usually takes balance.
 
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