UGA 15 - Tech 1

WracerX said:
Those were in part the fruits of the Bobinski debacle. There was simply no way to keep up at the funding levels we had. TStan went after that from day one, but it takes time for recruiting to catch up. It is also why we should expect CGC’s recruiting to improve now that he has had time to make inroads the past 3 years with HS programs.
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You need excess money to visit local GA HS, run a Twitter account, or remember kids names on unofficial visits?
 
ibeeballin said:
You need excess money to visit local GA HS, run a Twitter account, or remember kids names on unofficial visits?
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Mostly you need the money for staff so you can cast a wide net. You make the guys feel special and wanted. You do this even for the guys you don’t land, and in some cases don’t want. Leave them with a positive impression and it will flow to their HS teammates. Low staff numbers and you end up with kids saying “Tech? Yeah, I heard from them once or twice. Guy didn’t even get my name right.”

Money is why we got better players in 2018 than in 2016. Corporate recruiting is very much the same.
 
ibeeballin said:
You need excess money to visit local GA HS, run a Twitter account, or remember kids names on unofficial visits?
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lol yes, are you really that dumb? You don't think it takes time, gas, vehicles, and personnel to visit local recruits? You think the people running the GT athletics twitter/instagram accounts are just doing that for free out of the goodness of their hearts and love for Tech?

Your boy Geef hasn't managed a tweet since before last season, shouldn't this be so easy for him?
 
OmnipoTech said:
lol yes, are you really that dumb? You don't think it takes time, gas, vehicles, and personnel to visit local recruits? You think the people running the GT athletics twitter/instagram accounts are just doing that for free out of the goodness of their hearts and love for Tech?

Your boy Geef hasn't managed a tweet since before last season, shouldn't this be so easy for him?
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Are you dumb? GT is not as impoverished as some of you think it is. Why would i be on Twitter reading tweets from message board heroes who haven’t given an ounce to the program win, lose or draw
 
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WracerX said:
Mostly you need the money for staff so you can cast a wide net. You make the guys feel special and wanted. You do this even for the guys you don’t land, and in some cases don’t want. Leave them with a positive impression and it will flow to their HS teammates. Low staff numbers and you end up with kids saying “Tech? Yeah, I heard from them once or twice. Guy didn’t even get my name right.”

Money is why we got better players in 2018 than in 2016. Corporate recruiting is very much the same.
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Stop with the excuses. There where enough staffing in place to get a better result in place. They just didn’t believe in it like most others. They firmly believed the school recruits itself
 
ibeeballin said:
What you imagined our 3 year record to be with any other staff?
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Not sure about an absolute record (maybe at least beating a team with a winning record once in 3 seasons). I did expect to see a team play fundamentally well and look well coached. They look neither. In fact, the position group that was supposed to be the coach's calling card, ranked the worst in Div. 1 last season. He also has shown an inability to manage the clock well and the team is the keystone cops AFTER a timeout.

I am hoping that the new additions to the coaching staff will help alleviate some of Geoff's shortcomings in these areas. But running the head cheerleader model like Clemson does (without the critical top coordinators) hasn't worked thus far.
 
GT98 said:
Not sure about an absolute record (maybe at least beating a team with a winning record once in 3 seasons). I did expect to see a team play fundamentally well and look well coached. They look neither. In fact, the position group that was supposed to be the coach's calling card, ranked the worst in Div. 1 last season. He also has shown an inability to manage the clock well and the team is the keystone cops AFTER a timeout.

I am hoping that the new additions to the coaching staff will help alleviate some of Geoff's shortcomings in these areas. But running the head cheerleader model like Clemson does (without the critical top coordinators) hasn't worked thus far.
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So you expected to be fundamental with a core group who never did said fundamentals i.e. OL learning how to get in a 3 point stance and how to pass pro?

I’ll be honest, i thought we hit the ground running, (no pun intended) It took me actually being at a practice and talking to people that this was going to be a long process. That’s not to say CGC hasn’t made some mistakes, but man the cupboard was bare & dry
 
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ibeeballin said:
You need excess money to visit local GA HS, run a Twitter account, or remember kids names on unofficial visits?
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ibeeballin said:
Stop with the excuses. There where enough staffing in place to get a better result in place. They just didn’t believe in it like most others. They firmly believed the school recruits itself
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ibeeballin said:
LOL GT didnt have gas money to visit Metro Atl HS is hilarious and unnecessary narrative to propagate!
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@ibeeballin making a strong argument to cut recruiting staff and budget back to 2016-2017 levels ...and he doesn't even know it. No more helicopters for recruiting visits I guess.
 
ibeeballin said:
So you expected to be fundamental with a core group who never did said fundamentals i.e. OL learning how to get in a 3 point stance and how to pass pro?

I’ll be honest, i thought we hit the ground running, (no pun intended) It took me actually being at a practice and talking to people that this was going to be a long process. That’s not to say CGC hasn’t made some mistakes, but man the cupboard was bare & dry
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The SEC OL transfers should not have had those problems.
 
BrentwoodJacket said:
The SEC OL transfers should not have had those problems.
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Was the entire OL SEC transfers? It only takes one screw up and you will constantly get this

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ibeeballin said:
Was the entire OL SEC transfers? It only takes one screw up and you will constantly get this

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These videos are easily blamed on coaching. Which it may be... However; if players miss assignments, that's on them. The trick is figuring which is which. The number of times this happened, means bad coaching to me. But, again.... Another person can say the player(s), are just doing a bad job.
 
ibeeballin said:
Stop with the excuses. There where enough staffing in place to get a better result in place. They just didn’t believe in it like most others. They firmly believed the school recruits itself
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CPJ certainly could have been a better recruiter. And recruiting to the 3O was going to be difficult regardless of who was doing it.

But you don’t couple that with bottom of conference (and P5) recruiting budget. The dip in our recruiting (relative to CPJ standards which were low) follows Bobinski with a year or two delay. Mason, Gotsis, Waller, Butker followed by nothing then back up to Harvin and Carpenter.
 
ibeeballin said:
I’ll be honest, i thought we hit the ground running, (no pun intended) It took me actually being at a practice and talking to people that this was going to be a long process. That’s not to say CGC hasn’t made some mistakes, but man the cupboard was bare & dry
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People would buy that if we saw good performance in areas like the defensive secondary where we had talent.
 
ibeeballin said:
So you expected to be fundamental with a core group who never did said fundamentals i.e. OL learning how to get in a 3 point stance and how to pass pro?
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Not immediately. Still, I would expect an average to above average coach/position coach to improve a position group over a 3 year window.


ibeeballin said:
It took me actually being at a practice and talking to people that this was going to be a long process. That’s not to say CGC hasn’t made some mistakes, but man the cupboard was bare & dry
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I'd be curious as to your take on practice. From others (at least in season's prior), practice was poorly run and not a lot being taught, which would dovetail w/the lack of progress on the field too.
 
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