I agree, you can't help me, because I don't need you to help me. You have a blind spot imo aeromech, and that is: What do you remember happening in the late 60s? Riiiight. There's your friggin logic. So, you think Miss St. is doing swimmingly? We are certainly doing poorly lately, but it has bumpas to do with us not being in the sec, but rather piss poor coaching and equally poor leadership at the very top of the Admin. The sec would in fact help us marketing wise in the southeast, but just the opposite when it comes to winning---see my first post---if you can't win your conference, then you simply don't get the chance to do the things I listed. You just go ahead and dream about what we are missing by not being Vandy, UK, OM, MSU, Arkansas and others, but I'll pass.