Sadly,it is time to drop UGA...
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This thread has given me the urge to take a Duke
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Agreed. Both my younger brothers are dwags and love to talk öööö about beating us over the recent years. Though, I'll just ask them who has won a more recent national championship and that usually shuts them up. That or I start asking them if they are still buying stock in scooter companies.
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How about moving it to the first game of the year so we don't have to listen to a lot of the vaginas in here complain until the next season opener. Play the game on labor day, use it as maybe a charity fundraiser with all sports letterwinners coming out to play golf, flag football, basketball or something. This way the game is over and Tech can concentrate on the accc because most in here care about that than winning over the nadlickers.
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3 wins vs UGA in the 80's
3 wins vs UGA in the 90's
2 wins vs UGA in the 00's
0 for 4 so far vs UGA in the 10's
Yep. Things are RAPIDLY changing in our favor!
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Way to miss the point. College football is filled to the brim with sudden changes. The SEC wouldn't even be the dominant conference in CFB if they hadn't happened. They'd be little brother to the SWC which was doing everything it could and more to own college football until the NCAA took its entire arsenal to the conference in the 80's. The SEC has basically followed the SWC model since then and who knows how much longer the NCAA will preside over CFB, or how much longer players are going to remain 'amateurs', or whether new rules related to the resurgent issue of player safety will substantially alter the game (like they did in 1905 - the birth of the forward pass), or new rules related to academics will vastly change recruiting? Just to name some of the issues that are visibly on the horizon.
Georgia could destroy itself just as suddenly and totally as Tennessee did, or we could find the kind of magic Stanford did. You just don't know what's going to happen, but the only way to find how the balance of power will change is to keep playing the game.
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I agree that the GA gov and State legislature will meddle into GT and probable make us keep playing UGA.My 1st choice is to move the UGA game to the first game of the season.i would be very surprised if UGA would agree to that!
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Your post is well supported by others including myself. The reason is simply that as a businessman I realize how powerfully negative the UGA loss is on our program. We lost to FSU 11 straight or something and it meant nothing, although it was frustrating at the time.
Losing to UGA is going to continue regularly and since it happens at the end of the year regularly Tech's future is going to dwindle more and more.
Tech needs to stop trying to play Goliath against Goliath. David didn't do that. We're supposed to be an elite thinking college but in reality we have zero brains in how we're handling our business in state. We are playing straight into UGA's hands and do nothing about it.
As a minimum we should play them the first game of the year (if UGA doesn't want to, then drop it). We have no depth considering all the constraints at Tech, playing what we make to be our most important opponent should not be when we are at our weakest. It's just plain DUMB scheduling.
Additionally by dumping UGA we take a huge issue out of the state for us and Tech is being hurt by it. Take the game away from the bully and the whole state politics changes. Remember Pitt and öööööö, remember the business school, remember the SEC, remember? Take it away and focus on what we apparently think is important and that is hanging around folks of our kind. And meanwhile build a new fan base. Since the state won't be divided, fans can root for any or both. We can grow our fan base and this is HUGE for the new tv ratings war, conference alignment, etc.
I could go on and on. You are absolutely correct. UGA stopped playing us in basketball at the Omni? We were kicking their ass. Anyone really remember that? Of course not. It's forgotten ten years later. As a business decision it's a very good one.
Losing to UGA is going to continue regularly and since it happens at the end of the year regularly Tech's future is going to dwindle more and more.
Tech needs to stop trying to play Goliath against Goliath. David didn't do that. We're supposed to be an elite thinking college but in reality we have zero brains in how we're handling our business in state. We are playing straight into UGA's hands and do nothing about it.
As a minimum we should play them the first game of the year (if UGA doesn't want to, then drop it). We have no depth considering all the constraints at Tech, playing what we make to be our most important opponent should not be when we are at our weakest. It's just plain DUMB scheduling.
Additionally by dumping UGA we take a huge issue out of the state for us and Tech is being hurt by it. Take the game away from the bully and the whole state politics changes. Remember Pitt and öööööö, remember the business school, remember the SEC, remember? Take it away and focus on what we apparently think is important and that is hanging around folks of our kind. And meanwhile build a new fan base. Since the state won't be divided, fans can root for any or both. We can grow our fan base and this is HUGE for the new tv ratings war, conference alignment, etc.
I could go on and on. You are absolutely correct. UGA stopped playing us in basketball at the Omni? We were kicking their ass. Anyone really remember that? Of course not. It's forgotten ten years later. As a business decision it's a very good one.
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After they say no, dump the game. It's simple. Play em first when at Tech, the otherway at their place. Gosh people act like UGA hasn't changed their schedules on others, including Tech, before.
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As it stands with how we handle the game and football today, it is going to be this way for the next two hundred years. Wake up.
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Ten years is an incredibly small drought to want to forfeit the entire future. Tennessee is a good example. Tennessee won the BCS in 98 and the SEC east in 2001, 2004, and 2007. They are something like a top 10 winningest program in NCAA history, and they were rocking and rolling as recently as 6 years ago. Then they fired Fulmer in 2008. Today they suck maximally, are more or less broke, and aren't even going bowling. Georgia has never had quite their level of sustained success. If it can happen to Tennessee, it can happen to Georgia. Would you really want to miss that?
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Georgia's positioned so much better than Tennessee. The amount of instate talent in Georgia insulates them against a similar collapse. The odds of a 1-2 Kiffin/Dooley punch seem infinitesimally low as well.
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Sorry but this is a bit naive. If you haven't noticed UGA has every single advantage against us in football recruiting. As it stands, nothing is changing in the results. (Please understand that it is not a ten year run we're talking about.)
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Even if they don't have a Tennessee style collapse, they don't have to fall very far for us to start winning games. Double overtime proves that. They could take a sufficient dive when Richt is gone for whatever reason.
Two years ago, Duke hadn't been to a bowl since 1994, had been ranked in a national poll at any time in any season exactly 3 times since 1962, hadn't even had a single winning season since 1982, and still have all our disadvantages in spades. Economics fails to account for much of the nonsense that shapes the college football landscape, like the worst program in the ACC somehow hiring one of the best coaches from the SEC in 2008.
Way crazier things have happened, and will continue to happen, than us coming back from the deficit we find ourselves in against UGAy.
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I have coached two to three thousand games. One of the things you learn is to work on the aspects of the game more and then good things will come. So when measuring Duke football program, you look at their size, speed and strength, depth, etc to measure their program and not a one or two year blip.
This discussion is not about losing again to UGA (although it's the only time ya'll notice), it's about doing something about the easily measured differences in Tech and UGA football. It's not about who had a hot quarterback for a moment or two, it's about measuring the 100 different facets of each program.
Tech is not close in the vast vast majority of measures. Engineering taught me how to break down information, I know everyone else here can do the same.
If you want Tech football to move forward and have a chance, then put them in a position to succeed.
One last note, Texas A & M made the decision to walk away from their great Texas rivalry, a rivalry that they were always put into a difficult position in. Does anybody question that their decision was a bad one?
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Nobody is trying to argue that we aren't at a disadvantage with regards to UGAy, myself least especially. I'm a realist, I understand the trends and the disadvantages. My only message here is really that nothing is permanent, especially in this game, and it changes in very hard to predict ways. As for the Texas/A&M decision, I do feel that it was a bad one. The all-time record stands at 76-37-5, which does effectively mean aTm will remain the losers of the contest for 200+ years, no matter what happens at either school. Maybe aTm is propelled to perpetual greatness and rankings and recruits, but if they never play Texas and win it on the field, it's all just talk and speculation when they claim to be the better team/program.
At the end of the day it's probably going to come down to opinion, but I attach a higher price to a permanent losing record than I do to a difficult game.
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Posts like this are like the other self-demeaning posts that whiners make after we win something but need a reason to complain. We didn't beat #1 Alabama in Tuscaloosa? We didn't accomplish anything! With that viewpoint you'll never enjoy your team, especially if we replace UGA with another Tulane/MTSU level opponent, victory over whom you won't want to celebrate, and a loss to whom you'll probably dislike more than any loss to UGA.
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I'd rather beat UGA 7 IAR and then drop their hairy asses.