Tim Byerly

A redshirt season is when you don't play at all for a year, you apply for a redshirt and that year doesn't count towards your 4 years of eligibility.

A medical redshirt is if you play in less than 30% of a teams game and sustain a season ending injury. Then you can apply for a medical redshirt (if you haven't already taken a redshirt season).

You can only redshirt once, whether it is a medical or otherwise.

After a Players 5 year clock has expired they can also apply for a medical hardship (different than a medic redshirt) if they sustained injuries that cost them 2 or more seasons. This is when a player is granted a sixth year (rarely happens).

there is no "medical redshirt." There is only a "medical hardship waiver."

you can get a medical hardship waiver even if you have taken a redshirt year but you have to get the 6th year extension. they are fairly rarely granted, I think, though.
 
The question then is would Byerly be interested in such a medical hardship waiver just to be the backup QB one more year? Would CPJ and Co be interested in that, as it would potentially stunt the development of younger QBs?
I love Timmy, hope he heals quickly, he's a fantastic backup QB who I hope we never need this year. From TB's standpoint, a medical waiver would be good for him to continue his studies (I would assume graduate level by that point), but does it make sense, football-wise, for him or the program?
 
It's crazy that it's been 4 days, we still don't know wtf happened to him and the board is speculating whether he should get a medical waiver.


WTF HAPPENED TO HIM???????
 
If he comes back in a few weeks it doesn't matter anyway. We are going to need him ready for Clemmons, FSU, UGAg...
 
Somewhere on TOS it was said they he could possibly return this year and what CPJ said, it sounds like it'll be a week to week thing.
 
coach's remarks in THIS audio sound fairly upbeat about the whole situation. Jordan backing up this week, TB week-to-week.
 
If he comes back in a few weeks it doesn't matter anyway. We are going to need him ready for Clemmons, FSU, UGAg...

why will we "need him to be ready?" Did he play against any of those opponents last season? Maybe Clemson because it was a blowout.
 
For the love of God he is week to week with some sort of sprain. If he lost his leg in a jabari incident or tore his acl we would know by now. He will be out 2 weeks and ready to go after that. Can we move on from this topic now!?!?:furious:
 
So are the rumors true that we will have a backup QB available this weekend?
 
If he's day-to-day or week-to-week, it's likely a mild sprain or tear. Anything more would most likely require surgery, and there would be no need to put it off other than to let inflammation die down some, but he (and coach) would already know if that's the case. If it's a partial tear, he can rehab until it feels ok and play with it, but with much more risk of re-injuring it (see Deshaun Watson).
 
why will we "need him to be ready?" Did he play against any of those opponents last season? Maybe Clemson because it was a blowout.

Because if JT5 gets dinged, we need a competent backup.
 
It's crazy that it's been 4 days, we still don't know wtf happened to him and the board is speculating whether he should get a medical waiver.


WTF HAPPENED TO HIM???????

He's been selected to be the first person on Mars. The knee injury is just a cover up.
 
there is no "medical redshirt." There is only a "medical hardship waiver."

you can get a medical hardship waiver even if you have taken a redshirt year but you have to get the 6th year extension. they are fairly rarely granted, I think, though.

You got it right. Here's a specific example of a SU player, if we want to reference a real life example.

SU R-Sr tears his Achilles. They're applying for a medical redshirt.

http://dailyorange.com/2015/09/shafer-syracuse-will-apply-for-6th-year-waiver-for-terrel-hunt/

http://cuse.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=9088
 
why will we "need him to be ready?" Did he play against any of those opponents last season? Maybe Clemson because it was a blowout.

Let's carry 22 players and a couple of special teamers and really stream line this bitch
 
Hypothetically speaking, if the injury ends up being bad and Timmy has to miss the rest of the season, wouldn't he be able to request a Medical RS?

You need to miss 2 seasons due to injury to request a medical red shirt
 
A student-athlete may be granted an additional year of competition by the conference or the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for reasons of "hardship." Hardship is defined as an incapacity resulting from an injury or illness that has occurred under all of the following conditions: (Revised: 1/10/92 effective 8/1/92, 1/14/97, 8/1/97, 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01, 11/1/01, 4/3/02, 8/8/02, 3/10/04, 5/11/05, 9/18/07, 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08, 4/24/08, 7/31/14)
(a) The incapacitating injury or illness occurs in one of the four seasons of intercollegiate competition at any two-year or four-year collegiate institutions or occurs after the first day of classes in the student-athlete's senior year in high school;
(b) The injury or illness occurs prior to the first competition of the second half of the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship in that sport (see Bylaw 12.8.4.3.4) and results in incapacity to compete for the remainder of that playing season;
(c) In team sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not participated in more than three contests or dates of competition (whichever is applicable to that sport) or 30 percent (whichever number is greater) of the institution's scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in his or her sport. Only scheduled or completed competition against outside participants during the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship, or, if so designated, during the official NCAA championship playing season in that sport (e.g., spring baseball, fall soccer), shall be countable under this limitation in calculating both the number of contests or dates of competition in which the student-athlete has participated and the number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition during that season in the sport. Dates of competition that are exempted (e.g., alumni contests, foreign team in the United States) from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition shall count toward the number of contests or dates in which the student-athlete has participated and the number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in the season, except for scrimmages and exhibition contests that are specifically identified as such in the sport's Bylaw 17 playing and practice season regulations. Scrimmages and exhibition contests that are not exempted from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition may be excluded from the calculation only if they are identified as such in the sport's Bylaw 17 playing and practice season regulations; and
(d) In individual sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not participated in more than three dates of competition or 30 percent (whichever number is greater) of the maximum permissible number of dates of competition as set forth in Bylaw 17 plus one date for a conference championship (e.g., gymnastics: 13+1=14, wrestling: 16+1=17), regardless of whether the team participates in the conference championship, provided the institution is a member of a conference and the conference holds a championship event in the applicable sport. Dates of competition that are exempted per Bylaw 17 (e.g., alumni contests, foreign team in the United States) from the maximum permissible number of dates of competition do not count toward the number of dates in which the student-athlete has participated.
 
You need to miss 2 seasons due to injury to request a medical red shirt

I don't think that's true. It's not in the NCAA bylaws section on hardship waivers, which I just posted.
 
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