A Player’s Mom Speaks

GTLiebs said:
I feel like this is an attitude we have to fight against. The problem with viewing supporting your team (financially, in the stands, etc) as a product is you come to view it the same as going to a particular restaurant (not really something to build passion about). "Products" also get discontinued. "Businesses" close down. Would you approve of Georgia Tech football going out of business if we get bad enough?
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I'm not really sure how you fight against that. Ultimately, as long as money is in play, people are going to make decisions on what to do with theirs. It's just a reality that more people are going to be incentivized to spend time and money on Tech football if they see it as a rewarding experience, and vice versa.

I know there's a chicken-and-egg argument to be made here, but does anyone really think any of these teams that pack their stadiums would be doing so if they had several consecutive losing seasons? Because you can pretty much look at any losing program and see the empty seats on gameday, regardless of what attendance numbers they may be reporting. That may not be quite as evident at SEC schools with large alumni bases congregated within the state, but it's still noticeable.
 
PressManCoverage said:
You are wayyyyyy the fvck out of line pal!

You might wanna take that öööö back, delete it, write an apology or something.

FB players are at the center of the College Sports Industrial quasi-Entertainment Complex, and his efforts combined with his Teammates & Ancillary Personnel are providing Financial Aid for all the non Revenue welfare Athletes, all the people employed by the GTAA(very good jobs mind you with great benefits, pensions etc).

They are basically 80% ++ of the fundraising for a highly profitable segment of the University.

You can be pizzed about losing a Game or Games, but if you have to bite your tongue , then bite it , cause you should never address an FB Player's parent in that tone, much less use profanity.

Him getting a top notch education, doesn't mean you get to overstep, his efforts are more than paying his way AND helping to pay others way also

You wanna cuss someone out, cuss out a non revenue welfare sport athlete or parent that isn't generating a damn thing but bills with no way to pay them.
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You are just wrong. Players are commodities who come and go. It’s the program that does all those things you mentioned and the program will continue as it has for over a hundred years. In other words, her child, who got to bypass the normal admission process, is EASILY replaceable. Our coaches have lists of hundreds of players who would take his scholarship with 1 phone call. I don’t want him to leave as he is a very good player but that doesn’t mean his mom can trash me.

I get her frustration. I get your frustration with that post. It was in poor taste. But this is a freaking message board. Anyone who reads this stuff whether it’s fans, players, coaches , or players should know by now what they’ll see. And you lost your moral high ground with the “welfare sport athlete” comment. It’s true but you can’t have it both ways to say a poster can’t comment on a football player yet you can trash a volleyball player.
 
PressManCoverage said:
You are wayyyyyy the fvck out of line pal!

You might wanna take that öööö back, delete it, write an apology or something.

FB players are at the center of the College Sports Industrial quasi-Entertainment Complex, and his efforts combined with his Teammates & Ancillary Personnel are providing Financial Aid for all the non Revenue welfare Athletes, all the people employed by the GTAA(very good jobs mind you with great benefits, pensions etc).

They are basically 80% ++ of the fundraising for a highly profitable segment of the University.

You can be pizzed about losing a Game or Games, but if you have to bite your tongue , then bite it , cause you should never address an FB Player's parent in that tone, much less use profanity.

Him getting a top notch education, doesn't mean you get to overstep, his efforts are more than paying his way AND helping to pay others way also

You wanna cuss someone out, cuss out a non revenue welfare sport athlete or parent that isn't generating a damn thing but bills with no way to pay them.
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Oooh PressMan big scary man
 
TechAKnee said:
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This
 
I didn’t think the fanboy would respond. Just like his hero.
 
Supersize that order mutt said:
If the mutts went through a crappy bunch of years like we are doing, that stadium in Athens would still be full to the brim every game, win or lose. And the same can be said for most schools in the country. Why are we (plus a few other ACC schools) so cursed with cruddy fans?
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BS. Georgie claims 10 years of sellouts but for home games like Vandy the upper deck is not full, nowhere close.
 
All of us would love to see a full stadium, but big cities, in particular, don't give out participation trophies beyond the childrens rec leagues. The 411 on the 404 culture is that you attract a crowd when you are really good. The way you tell someone you are really good in sports is that you win more than you lose. I mean this with all due respect. It's big city rules. Entertainment is cutthroat business. It's tough enough to compete with the other venues when you win. If you go to smaller towns, it's much less competitive. People may go to a game because there isn't as much to do. It's just the way it is. I sometimes wish that Georgia Tech was in a medium size town, because of this. Most of our close competition is.
 
Its not that I think she doesn't have some sort of point about lack of game attendance.. but her posting that or whatever just adds fuel to the fire and hurts her "cause". Just kinda dumb IMO. When has one person changed the "attitude" of an entire fan base again? Never has and never will. You just make yourself look like a crybaby. I guess it's momma bear syndrome or whatever, but pretty tone deaf at the end of the day and quite frankly if its that bad for them, then please leave. The institution is bigger than them. We are losing patience with the staff and the way they are handling things. We aren't ( at least not most on stingtalk) placing this solely on the players or anything. We do however still want to frggin win and yes the games are more competitive now than they were but we are losing games we should win. Is nobody to be held accountable? Fans who contribute time and money have the damned right to complain if they want to ..cmon
Just is basically a sophomoric post imo.
 
Mom has a right to express an opinion. But, fans filling up stadiums of mediocre programs may be a stretch. I am sorry, but we have a relatively small fan base. The geographic footprint of the area where Tech fans choose to be present at the games shrinks due to early and late kickoff times that are not known until less than two weeks before the game. And, we are headed toward another losing season, our fifth in seven years and 3rd in a row. A little understanding is important.
 
77GTFan said:
Mom has a right to express an opinion. But, fans filling up stadiums of mediocre programs may be a stretch. I am sorry, but we have a relatively small fan base. The geographic footprint of the area where Tech fans choose to be present at the games shrinks due to early and late kickoff times that are not known until less than two weeks before the game. And, we are headed toward another losing season, our fifth in seven years and 3rd in a row. A little understanding is important.
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My feelings exactly! Its just imo really dumb for her to do that in a public forum no matter frustrated someone is ( unless the head coach just got caught in making meth in homes that are being bug bombed of course). That, of course is different. Other than that, grow the hell up and if they really cared about the welfare of the program they wouldn't throw a propane tank on the campfire
 
Maybe you fact-deniers will like this post more. I assume it was meant in jest, but considering some of the posts made about "mom's letter", who knows but that some of you will actually agree with this one ---
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ScionOfSouthland said:
CPJ was filling twice the seats as CGC even in his down years. This mom's frustration is misguided. She is still bought into the idea that this transformation is right around the corner. Fans are speaking through their attendance they don't believe that to be true. If CGC starts to win, the fans will respond in kind and we will be back up to 40-50k attendance in no time. Attendance is a lagging indicator.
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Yea, 2020's attendance was the worst we have had since Heisman took over
 
Supersize that order mutt said:
Maybe you fact-deniers will like this post more. I assume it was meant in jest, but considering some of the posts made about "mom's letter", who knows but that some of you will actually agree with this one ---
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Again, this persons opinion, which is shared by many of the vocal people here at Stingtalk, is ignorant. It is ignorant of the fact that our OL is barely functional right now due to injuries, and it is ignorant of the fact that the team is improving, even though we are 1 and 6 in games decided by less than a TD this season.

I voted no in the approval poll again this week, but I also hope and believe that the the team will continue to improve.
 
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