Expansion Rumors…

GTCrew4b said:
Usually we are at an angle so we can cross streams.
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WracerX said:
I said for a while that since Atlantic doesn’t make sense, the conference should be rebranded as the Big Baller Conference.
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KFC used to mean "Kentucky Fried Chicken" now it just means KFC.

The ACC used to mean Atlantic Coast Conference, now it can just be ACC

We are the ACCktually conference, cuz we know better!
 
LagrangeJacket said:
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The villain in all of this is ESPN.

Obviously, Clemson and FSU have acted stupidly with all of this. Suing the conference was never going to work. They have done a great deal of PR and brand damage to themselves and the conference they are bound to.

But ööööing ESPN/ABC/Disney is who people really need to be blaming. They've created this lopsided playing field and have no qualms about continuing it. That corporate behemoth has become a scourge to everything it touches.
 
Buzzilla said:
The villain in all of this is ESPN.

Obviously, Clemson and FSU have acted stupidly with all of this. Suing the conference was never going to work. They have done a great deal of PR and brand damage to themselves and the conference they are bound to.

But ööööing ESPN/ABC/Disney is who people really need to be blaming. They've created this lopsided playing field and have no qualms about continuing it. That corporate behemoth has become a scourge to everything it touches.
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:rollseyes:

Maybe I'll send you more bubblegum
 
GTCrew4b said:
No. They’re obviously angling for an eventual Big Ten membership. Along with several other ACC schools.
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B1G could have easily taken both Cal, Stanford last summer for pennies on the dollar and are perfect fits academically but didn’t for a reason…..They are not brands that really do anything for them from a football perspective. While Cal looks like a pretty good team this year, the attendance isn’t good. Stanford games are beyond embarrassing from an attendance standpoint.

If Cal, Stanford wanted to join the new version of the P12 and the ACC could add WVU, UCF in their place, I’d take it tomorrow.
 
Buzzilla said:
The villain in all of this is ESPN.

Obviously, Clemson and FSU have acted stupidly with all of this. Suing the conference was never going to work. They have done a great deal of PR and brand damage to themselves and the conference they are bound to.

But ööööing ESPN/ABC/Disney is who people really need to be blaming. They've created this lopsided playing field and have no qualms about continuing it. That corporate behemoth has become a scourge to everything it touches.
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Don’t forget Swofford. He helped push it through so that his son’s media company would benefit.
 
Buzzilla said:
The villain in all of this is ESPN.

Obviously, Clemson and FSU have acted stupidly with all of this. Suing the conference was never going to work. They have done a great deal of PR and brand damage to themselves and the conference they are bound to.

But ööööing ESPN/ABC/Disney is who people really need to be blaming. They've created this lopsided playing field and have no qualms about continuing it. That corporate behemoth has become a scourge to everything it touches.
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Placing blame on a reactionary stupid contract with an insane amount of time between contracts isn’t at all the fault of ABC/ESPN. That solely is 100% the ACC leadership at the time (Swafford) fault. The ACC sold themselves out for a stupid ACC Network.

The new B1G and sec contracts will expire before this dinosaur ACC TV deal. So the fact that those 2 leagues will get even more $$$ per school will continue to widen the gap.
 
USCJacket said:
Placing blame on a reactionary stupid contract with an insane amount of time between contracts isn’t at all the fault of ABC/ESPN. That solely is 100% the ACC leadership at the time (Swafford) fault. The ACC sold themselves out for a stupid ACC Network.

The new B1G and sec contracts will expire before this dinosaur ACC TV deal. So the fact that those 2 leagues will get even more $$$ per school will continue to widen the gap.
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Obviously Swafford and the conference leadership has a big share of blame for making a bad deal, but ESPN/ABC/Disney owns the "property". They also own the SEC property. They have effectively favored one to the neglect of the other. They are solely to blame for tilting the playing field and doing nothing to mitigate the imbalance.

I have said Georgia Tech will be fine and they will, but ESPN/ABC/Disney has created this situation within the conference and between the properties that they own the rights to. It will likely never be favorably resolved by legal actions but ESPN/ABC/Disney absolutely knows they are tilting the game across the board. They know it and have chosen to do nothing about it.

I detest them for that and a host of other offenses that organization has done and continues to do and I will absolutely call them out for it and do everything I can to never give them a dime. I'm certain I am not alone in that sentiment.
 
USC and Buzzilla, you guys are exactly right. I’m an ACC lifer (born as a Terrapin and escaped to the Jackets) and this conference simply needs to die and let the next iteration for its members begin. The leadership has been either totally inept or corrupt - and neither should be allowed to continue. Now, that college football has FINALLY been wrestled out of the hands of bowl committees and the NCAA and into the hands of business people the sport is finally becoming legitimate.

I believe the entire history of the sport is nothing but a Vince McMahon rigged history. When you have banners in multiple stadiums for the same year declaring “National Champions” it’s just like wrestling and a joke. And the past 50 years have been nothing but a total sham of illiterates being paid to win games while the NCAA did nothing.

NIL, the portal, and the expanded playoffs have finally made this a real sport where every team can get players and has a legit chance to win a Natty out in the open sunshine instead of in sports editors offices deciding which freebies he should take from which school. It sure isn’t perfect yet, but it’s moving in the right direction. Once we have another couple playoff expansion rounds then it will be a lot of fun.

Lastly, for all those who say playoffs make the regular season worthless or not as fun, tell that to the 70,000 that will be in Tuscaloosa next Saturday, That game means absolutely nothing as both teams will make the playoffs yet something tells me millions will be watching.
 
BrentwoodJacket said:
Would there be a basis for a fraud claim based on this conflict of interest? I assume Swofford had a fiduciary obligation.
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I think this was FSU's thinking going with the lawsuit. Threaten to make people testify under oath about how the deal was done if we can't get out of the GOR and exit fees.
 
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