Haunting words by CPJ...

whiskey clear said:
Almost every uga fan I know thought the scheme was a gimmick. Amazing as it is literally why Tech one those games against them during the CPJ era. The only one we should have won but didn’t was 2009. That Tech team was better than the mutts that year. Just couldn’t get the W that night.
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Delusional. 2013 was the Worst Choke in History. The 2015 mutts were atrocious and there were several other close games in the PJ Era that he didn't take advantage of with his genius coaching. 2009 was the Most Embarrassing mutt Loss in History, you're right about that. Outcoached at home by Richt on national TV.
 
One of the frustrating parts about having any conversation about CPJ’s tenure at Tech is that it always ends up into a pissing match about his offense. But the reality is that CPJ had a historically great offense for Tech. This was not as true towards the end of his tenure, but I suspect him, or more likely someone in his coaching tree could have figured that out.

This means that the actual problem with CPJ’s teams always gets dismissed. And that’s the defense. CPJ went through a variety of DCs with a variety of backgrounds and techniques and we never had a decent defense. Many years the offense was good enough to make up for it (I’m reminded of the FSU lightning game where I think FSU punted once and that was the difference). But in years where the offense was merely good, we suffered.

If CPJ had to go it was because of an inability to figure something out on defense far more than anything to do with the offense.

This failure to recognize the actual issues we were facing played a huge role in making a bad choice in CPJ’s successor. And as far as I can tell, our leadership has still not figured out what our actual problems are. So I suspect any future decision we make will only repeat the mistakes we’ve already made.
 
Diseqc said:
Paul Johnson sycophants are seriously the worst
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Great coach and the time had come to move on.

The juice crew are the worst. The lengths they go to defend this muppet that was exposed in year 1 is sad, like a cult really. Recruiting isn't even better under their leader. It's year 4 of this dumpster fire and the best offensive and defensive player are "lowly" CPJ recruits.
 
The anti TO folks nor the pro TO folks will ever change their minds, so whether or not there were players good enough to win 7 or 8 games is irrelevant because all that will do is provoke and endless series of responses. However I'm pretty sure both parties will win more arguments than CGC can, but I digress...

What is relevant was PJ could get enough out of his players to win more games than he lost. CGC obviously can't. The only reason he had any winning seasons at Temple was because he continued what Rhule already had in place. Rhule won 10 games in his last season, whereas Collins won 7 with most of the same players. Having a system like the TO will expose just how well or not the next HC truly knows what he's doing. Since I can't think of an FBS example, I'll use GS. Brian Van Gorder, a good DC with no HC experience won 3 games with players leftover from a HC who won 8 games the year before. Chris Hatcher took over who still had a lot of Sewak's players - won 7 games his first year. And that's with an air raid offense. It can be done. Even Helton has GS at 2-1 currently, again with an air raid. That is 20% of GCC's entire career wins at GT in the first 3 games. If GS can do it, surely GT can. It's not about the school, it's about the coach. And CGC can't coach.
 
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CarsonNewmanJacket said:
I would consider being in every game
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You must have watched about 50% of the games at most
 
GT98 said:
Great coach and the time had come to move on.

The juice crew are the worst. The lengths they go to defend this muppet that was exposed in year 1 is sad, like a cult really. Recruiting isn't even better under their leader. It's year 4 of this dumpster fire and the best offensive and defensive player are "lowly" CPJ recruits.
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NO ONE IS DEFENDlNG GEFF. JESUS YOU GUYS ARE DUMB AS öööö
 
Liberty said:
We had a coach the players respected leaving, we got relegated to the öööötiest bowl possible except maybe Shreveport, etc. Yeah the players were not motivated to play well.

ACC should have slotted us to the bowl in BC, can’t remember the name maybe Armed Forces or something. The Navy/DC draw would have been huge. A great send off for a HOF coach. Instead we grabbed our ankles and let the ACC plow our 5 hole and sent CPJ off in the worst way possible. No celebrations, no recognition of a great career, etc. Go to Detroit and eat öööö and leave. Crap game in crap venue in crap city on crap day with no fan interest.
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Does the ACC get to choose where teams go? I thought the bowls themselves got to pick based on an order determined by contracts.

I'm sure the conferences have some influence but I would think it's limited and probably not something they want to spend on a lower order bowl to honor a school's outgoing coach who has limited national appeal.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
Delusional. 2013 was the Worst Choke in History. The 2015 mutts were atrocious and there were several other close games in the PJ Era that he didn't take advantage of with his genius coaching. 2009 was the Most Embarrassing mutt Loss in History, you're right about that. Outcoached at home by Richt on national TV.
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If pj could have had a half decent defensive coordinator, instead of the basement bin trash he was given (excluding Nate Woody at the very end), the results would have been very different. He deserved a better DC and never got one.
 
Diseqc said:
They’re both equally unacceptable.

Paul Johnson sycophants are seriously the worst.
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Lol, no. A bowl is better than losing. If Collins were 19-18 right now instead of 10-27, even keeping the worst losses, this board would be arguing about an extension.

Hell, let’s make it 13-25 with 6-7 last season with a bowl loss (picking up NIU, UVa, and BC). There would be no talk of firings.
 
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