Haunting words by CPJ...

Killick said:
The reason that CPJ comes up is because he is a great college coach. Will be in the Hall of Fame. And we didn't take full advantage of what we had. It is also to remind the Brainiac's that opposed him at every step that they got what they wanted. A supposed world class recruiter that would take advantage of the ATL and run a NFL type offense. You need to admit that you did not and do not know öööö about what it takes to win at Tech even if you did play football there. How rare Orange Bowls and Championship games are for a school like Tech. Your theories and experiment ran into reality, and fell into the abyss dragging our football fortunes with it. Now eat the öööö sandwich.

I have been wondering how the portal would have affected Tech with CPJ as coach. I suspect we would have lost some good running backs after they had shown what they could do in the TO. Conversely, I think we would have had some QBs and RBs that ran the TO in High School and thought they would be the starter at Football U decide they wanted to come play for CPJ. Probably the same for WRs. I would say the TO might be a plus offensively in the portal years.

I don't know about defense.
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We wouldn't have any of those players. No HS kids want to play in a service academy offense. Kids going to Navy and Army aren't going there for the football programs.

The PJ Fan Club doesn't know öööö about what it takes to win at Tech. All they know and care about are annual Team Rushing stats and couldn't begin to give a damn about stopping the other team's offense. The delusion is comical.
 
Liberty said:
Because that’s THE ONLY response they have to why dipshit sucks so bad and why they are and have been so wrong. Oh yeah, let’s pick on injury ridden 2015 or a sorry ass bowl game. The idiot is literally ruining, destroying, decimating GT football right in front of them but as long as Johnson is gone they’re happy as öööö. We can lose 99-0 to UCF and they’ll still hate Johnson more. They have a team they can be proud of packed with NFL talent achieving at elite levels and you can’t even see the ceiling it’s so high according to those people. They can cheer on draft day we got more signed than Vandy and that’s all that matters.
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^ See? Delusion.
 
GT98 said:

Post game thoughts/observations

- Really missed Leonard and Edwards tonight. Leonard would be starting over Benson and Benson missed the block on the interception to open the game. Nate had his man beat, that was a TD if Sims doesn't get hit as hes throwing. Benson also whiffed the block on the 1st blocked punt, then later...
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Improvement

1) QB play 2) Pass rush 3) Pass defense 4) New hires Don’t mind Coach letting clock run out before half. Not like we were killing it in O. Seen too many times the offense throws a pick…. Only disappointment is blocked punt. Hate to lose this game bc if one play but if we do that will be the one...
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I think 6 or 7 wins is possible this season

Clemson L Western Caroline W Ole Miss L At UCF L At Pitt L Duke W UVA W At FSU L At VT W UM L At UNC W both coaches get fired At UGA L we get butt raped best case 5-7 and that’s best case We are not beating UVA with their QB. Also, have you seen UNC's QB!?
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CGC is Still Our Head Coach

He'll be our head coach tomorrow. He'll be our head coach next Saturday, He'll be our head coach the week after that. I know y'all want your pound of flesh, but satiating your anger isn't a plan for success. It's just masturbation. Is there anyone else on this staff that you think would make...
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Finally threw in the towel here:

Done with Collins

Really thought we'd make progress this year and at least look like a football team. Nope. Time to move on.
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Nice thread here, you were reeling them in:

Everyone calm down. It’s not that bad.

We’ve lost to 2 of the 3 strongest teams on the schedule. There’s 9 games left against some pretty questionable teams. We need to win 5. The season’s goals are all still in front of us. We can compete in the coastal. We can play in a bowl. Be a good fan.
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None of that is supportive of Geff. It’s people trying to find anything positive for the team they support.

Sorry that not everyone is willing to just öööö all over the team because the HC sucks.
 
Diseqc said:
Sorry that not everyone is willing to just öööö all over the team because the HC sucks.
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I'm not ööööting all over the team, just the juice crew whose identity was recruiting rankings the last few years and to crap on CPJ.

I'll actually be at the remaining home games that my schedule allows me to make. The players deserve support and I think they can win a few more games if CGC is let go (along with that fraud Key).
 
GT98 said:
And most of college football over the same time frame (tbf)...
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Clemson defensive YPG avg for year and against GT from 2015-2018
YearGTAVGDelta
201523031383
2016124312188
201723027747
201820328683

If the option was such an "equalizer" against better teams and talent, then why did we average 100 YPG less than their yearly AVG over the last 4 years of CPJ?
 
rghoae said:
One of the frustrating parts about having any conversation about CPJ’s tenure at Tech is that it always ends up into a pissing match about his offense. But the reality is that CPJ had a historically great offense for Tech. This was not as true towards the end of his tenure, but I suspect him, or more likely someone in his coaching tree could have figured that out.

This means that the actual problem with CPJ’s teams always gets dismissed. And that’s the defense. CPJ went through a variety of DCs with a variety of backgrounds and techniques and we never had a decent defense. Many years the offense was good enough to make up for it (I’m reminded of the FSU lightning game where I think FSU punted once and that was the difference). But in years where the offense was merely good, we suffered.

If CPJ had to go it was because of an inability to figure something out on defense far more than anything to do with the offense.

This failure to recognize the actual issues we were facing played a huge role in making a bad choice in CPJ’s successor. And as far as I can tell, our leadership has still not figured out what our actual problems are. So I suspect any future decision we make will only repeat the mistakes we’ve already made.
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The only way I see it working is if it is integrated into a package in your offense.

There is NOTHING preventing any team from running a few flexbone plays. Even a series, if it gets the other team off balance. It would be like running the wildcat.
 
I think a really good non-option coach may have been able to eek out a bowl berth. I don't think it was a roster well equipped for success for even average coach, much less an awful one.

Hopefully we're still having these debates a decade from now, though. Always so fun.
 
GoGATech said:
Clemson defensive YPG avg for year and against GT from 2015-2018
YearGTAVGDelta
201523031383
2016124312188
201723027747
201820328683

If the option was such an "equalizer" against better teams and talent, then why did we average 100 YPG less than their yearly AVG over the last 4 years of CPJ?
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Clemson lost 4 games and appeared in the NCG 3 times in that span. I think all but 1 of their losses were against Alabama, so I'd say no offense fared well against Clemson. Equalizer shouldn't be confused with "magic win pill".
 
GoGATech said:
Clemson defensive YPG avg for year and against GT from 2015-2018
YearGTAVGDelta
201523031383
2016124312188
201723027747
201820328683

If the option was such an "equalizer" against better teams and talent, then why did we average 100 YPG less than their yearly AVG over the last 4 years of CPJ?
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You'd have a more realistic argument if you showed what Clemson did to other people on their schedule in that same timespan.
As it stands, this info is pretty useless.
 
Jacketzrus said:
You'd have a more realistic argument if you showed what Clemson did to other people on their schedule in that same timespan.
As it stands, this info is pretty useless.
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Isn't that what it is? Comparing to the avg yards Clemson gave up to the rest of their schedule.
 
EagleSting said:
Clemson lost 4 games and appeared in the NCG 3 times in that span. I think all but 1 of their losses were against Alabama, so I'd say no offense fared well against Clemson. Equalizer shouldn't be confused with "magic win pill".
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Jacketzrus said:
You'd have a more realistic argument if you showed what Clemson did to other people on their schedule in that same timespan.
As it stands, this info is pretty useless.
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Do you guys not understand how stats work? This is comparing exactly that. It is our yards per game against Clemson for each of those years vs. their yearly YPG average given up by the defense for each same year. We averaged 100 yards LESS offense against them over that span than EVERYBODY ELSE THEY PLAYED.
 
The special teams CGC inherited should have been enough to win a few games on their own. We returned the eventual Ray Gay winner, a kicker who was perfect the previous season, and a returner who had taken two to the house as a frosh.

That alone should tell you how utterly useless CGC was/has been as a “developer of talent.”
 
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