It’s Comical How Bad of a Head Coach Geoff Collins Is/Was

donsue said:
Reading all these posts, here is, as was my thoughts on the situation; The AD was obviously trying to make a departure from the program PJ had, and he got sucked in by a guy who was a hot name at the time. The problem was he wasn’t properly vetted and we saw the results. It is so similar to what FSU did with Willie Taggart.
Their idea of “cool” and “hip” doesn’t play at all well with recruits and players as they think. The best players want to be pushed and worked, and prepared to be their best. They don’t want a side show. The kids that are turned on by a circus atmosphere aren’t the ones you want.
Key seems to get it and understand what it takes to knock heads with the big programs, and at the same time to be able to do it under the academic rigors at GT.
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Key played and coached under O'Leary, so he knows how to knock heads with the best, and under academic constraints as well. He also coached under Saban, so he knows doubly well how to win and what winning does for a program's "brand." Those three lines on his resume run unbroken from 1997-2018. That is 22 years, the length of time that Bobby Dodd was head coach at Tech. The three years under TFG ought to be enough to keep his powder dry for a long time.
 
stinger78 said:
Key played and coached under O'Leary, so he knows how to knock heads with the best, and under academic constraints as well. He also coached under Saban, so he knows doubly well how to win and what winning does for a program's "brand." Those three lines on his resume run unbroken from 1997-2018. That is 22 years, the length of time that Bobby Dodd was head coach at Tech. The three years under TFG ought to be enough to keep his powder dry for a long time.
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Clown also used his time as O'Leary and Saban as a selling point too.

Key also was on O'Leary's staff at UCF for two winless seasons.

The biggest difference, so far, is Key actually prepares to win games in practice. I don't know WTF Clown was preparing for in practice.
 
swampsting said:
Clown also used his time as O'Leary and Saban as a selling point too.

Key also was on O'Leary's staff at UCF for two winless seasons.

The biggest difference, so far, is Key actually prepares to win games in practice. I don't know WTF Clown was preparing for in practice.
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O'Leary didn't have 2 winless seasons at UCF.
 
nfGoldmember said:
O'Leary didn't have 2 winless seasons at UCF.
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Even if he did have those seasons, they do happen on rare occasions. That in no way invalidates the long years of service time he put in with O'leary and Saban. As for TFG's time on the staffs of those two, he was a GA for 3 seasons under GOL and DPP under Saban for a season. Really no comparison there.
 
swampsting said:
Ran into DMo a few months ago. He really seems to like working at South Carolina.
And he told me "Tech doesn't know what it lost when Paul Johnson left."
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We loved Paul, but we needed to counter UGAg and Clemson. They were dominating us towards the end and we had no answer. Of course, negative recruiting and the NCAA rules book helped. Can't have those 340 lb DL's from UGAg cut blocked by a 190 lb AB, at least according to the factory schools.
 
JJacket said:
We loved Paul, but we needed to counter UGAg and Clemson. They were dominating us towards the end and we had no answer. Of course, negative recruiting and the NCAA rules book helped. Can't have those 340 lb DL's from UGAg cut blocked by a 190 lb AB, at least according to the factory schools.
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swampsting said:
Yes he did.
2004 and 2015. .And he quit in the middle of 2015 when they were winless and they didn't win after that, either.
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I forgot out the initial season, I knew that OLeary quit mid season and key was the OC.
 
JJacket said:
We loved Paul, but we needed to counter UGAg and Clemson. They were dominating us towards the end and we had no answer. Of course, negative recruiting and the NCAA rules book helped. Can't have those 340 lb DL's from UGAg cut blocked by a 190 lb AB, at least according to the factory schools.
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True, but we're not the only ones they left in the dust.
Clemson has come back to the field a little bit in the last couple of years, but they had a run of several years where they were mostly untouchable until the playoffs/bowl season.
All Georgia has done - goddmanit - is separate themselves even more from everybody else on their schedule.
Maybe the long arm of the law will reel them back in. Maybe.
 
nfGoldmember said:
I forgot out the initial season, I knew that OLeary quit mid season and key was the OC.
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After that first year, GOL built a pretty consistent winner.
I don't know what happened to get that last bad year.
 
Have we ever had 5 losing seasons in a row? Need 7 wins here otherwise Clown will add to his legacy.
 
Liberty said:
Have we ever had 5 losing seasons in a row? Need 7 wins here otherwise Clown will add to his legacy.
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Came close in the late 70s/early 80s - three straight and four of five
Had four straight losing seasons from 29-32.
Had a run of bad seasons in the 1890s.
 
JJacket said:
We loved Paul, but we needed to counter UGAg and Clemson. They were dominating us towards the end and we had no answer. Of course, negative recruiting and the NCAA rules book helped. Can't have those 340 lb DL's from UGAg cut blocked by a 190 lb AB, at least according to the factory schools.
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swampsting said:
True, but we're not the only ones they left in the dust.
Clemson has come back to the field a little bit in the last couple of years, but they had a run of several years where they were mostly untouchable until the playoffs/bowl season.
All Georgia has done - goddmanit - is separate themselves even more from everybody else on their schedule.
Maybe the long arm of the law will reel them back in. Maybe.
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By we are not the only ones we are talking about the entirety of the ACC and the vast majority of the SEC.
 
Want more to laugh at (or feel nauseous about)?

In 28 losses under Clown in 3 and change years:
22 were by at least two possessions (9 points and more).
11 were by 20 points or more.
9 were by 30 points or more
6 were by 42 points or more

I don't know if Key is the answer or if he will lead us back to anything resembling a couple of Big Six bowl games and a couple of spots in the ACC championship games.
But there is no ööööing way on God's green earth he can be that ööööing bad.
And we paid that asshat $11 million to walk away. Why hasn't the school attorney or the GTAA attorney gotten ööööcanned for allowing such a lousy ass contract?
 
swampsting said:
Want more to laugh at (or feel nauseous about)?

In 28 losses under Clown in 3 and change years:
22 were by at least two possessions (9 points and more).
11 were by 20 points or more.
9 were by 30 points or more
6 were by 42 points or more

I don't know if Key is the answer or if he will lead us back to anything resembling a couple of Big Six bowl games and a couple of spots in the ACC championship games.
But there is no ööööing way on God's green earth he can be that ööööing bad.
And we paid that asshat $11 million to walk away. Why hasn't the school attorney or the GTAA attorney gotten ööööcanned for allowing such a lousy ass contract?
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It’s not just that, the GT message boards were
littered with Clown zealots ready to defend his honor no matter how well phrased the questioning of his tactics. Some persist to this day insisting he just didn’t have his players yet or he needed more time. Hell, you could see it game 2 against USF and if you missed the blatant clues then they were absolutely unmistakable in game 3. All we had was hope the staff coaching or recruiting would somehow counteract the clown or GT would fire him. I guess we had to wait until his career winning percentage was cemented in last place for all of eternity.

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forgot latest Clown excuse- we wouldn’t pay for a quality staff. We raised more money for that idiot than anyone in the history of GT athletics at that point.
 
Liberty said:
It’s not just that, the GT message boards were
littered with Clown zealots ready to defend his honor no matter how well phrased the questioning of his tactics. Some persist to this day insisting he just didn’t have his players yet or he needed more time. Hell, you could see it game 2 against USF and if you missed the blatant clues then they were absolutely unmistakable in game 3. All we had was hope the staff coaching or recruiting would somehow counteract the clown or GT would fire him. I guess we had to wait until his career winning percentage was cemented in last place for all of eternity.

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forgot latest Clown excuse- we wouldn’t pay for a quality staff. We raised more money for that idiot than anyone in the history of GT athletics at that point.
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There were numerous folks on various Tech opinion forums agreeing with him after the loss to the Citadel when he tossed out the excuse that it was the biggest transition in the last 40 years. Johnson likely would have wiped the floor with Citadel with the talent on that team. What little support I could muster for TFG went out the window after he uttered that. I knew then he was not HBC material. That it took Stan 3 more years from that point to figure that is beyond imagination.

By comparison, Saban lost to UL-Monroe his first year of his transition. He stood there in front of the cameras and apologized to the Bama fans saying there was no excuse for it and that it wouldn't happen again. It didn't.
 
swampsting said:
Want more to laugh at (or feel nauseous about)?

In 28 losses under Clown in 3 and change years:
22 were by at least two possessions (9 points and more).
11 were by 20 points or more.
9 were by 30 points or more
6 were by 42 points or more
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2 worst losses in COFH history
Most points allowed in ACC game in ACC history
Most points allowed by GT in BDS history
Worst ACC loss in GT history
4 worst shutout losses in GT history
Worst shutout loss in BDS history
Lost to 0-2 Citadel
Worst haircut in GT head coaching history
 
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