Maybe choice has been made

THWG247 said:
Chadwell was not responsible for those violations, it was spread throughout the entire athletic dept iirc. Also Pnut was the OC at Coastal when they were FCS and left in’16, Chadwell became OC in ‘19 and it was a rebuild job at that point after the move to FBS in 2017
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Agreed. I remember hearing about those violations back then. There's a ton a context missing in the previous posts... Surely didn't look like anything he could've done about it. As for Coastal, they were in the middle of a big mess when Chadwell arrived. That was Mogglia's team, period. I remember Mogglia had health issues and flipped back and forth with Chadwell in terms of leading the team. Chadwell had struggled to gain the respect of the team at first (what new employee wouldn't, really) but he's done just fine since. If some folks don't want the guy as HC, that's fine - nothing wrong with that, but I would just leave it at that than to cherry pick things.
 
Liberty said:
Chan was the equivalent of Goof, Donnan and Richt- less with more. O'Leary with Chan talent wins a NC if he has it 5 or 6 years, Johnson probably comes close given a decade of opportunities.
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So you’re saying Chan the best recruiter at GT in the last 30 years?
 
clapper said:
I don't understand the love for Chadwell. Delta State was perennial powerhouse in D2. Chadwell took over and went 3-7 before he bolted to Charleston Southern after that single year. He goes 35-14 there but leaves to take the OC job at Coastal. The next year Charleston Southern gets hammered for violations while Chadwell was there and vacate more than half of those wins and one of their league championships (sound familiar?).

And here's a scary stat...Chadwell is 42-27 as OC of Coastal (37-20 as HC) before this year. The OC before Chadwell was 51-17 over his five years. That was some guy named Dave Patenaude.
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Leave it to a Tech fan to know how to manipulate statistics to make his case
 
andrew said:
Is that really in doubt? Chan's teams were incredibly talented. That '06 team was absolutely stacked.
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I don’t disagree. There had been a narrative among tech fans following his firing (and many year that followed) that he wasn’t a strong recruiter, outside of the 07 class. So interesting to see it positioned differently now.

He certainly brought in/developed a ton of very talented players in his 6 years.
 
The Champ said:
I don’t disagree. There had been a narrative among tech fans following his firing (and many year that followed) that he wasn’t a strong recruiter, outside of the 07 class. So interesting to see it positioned differently now.

He certainly brought in/developed a ton of very talented players in his 6 years.
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Interesting, that's not the narrative I remember. I remember heavy criticism of the scheme and playcalling, not of the talent on the team. Could just be we ran in different circles though.
 
andrew said:
Interesting, that's not the narrative I remember. I remember heavy criticism of the scheme and playcalling, not of the talent on the team. Could just be we ran in different circles though.
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Maybe I’m misremembering. But it the early PJ years some fonts were trying to position CPJ recruiting as equal/better than CG based on comparable recruiting service rankings (excluding 07). Not that it matters now.
 
The narrative I remember is that Chan was a really good recruiter, it's just that 7-5 was the best he could do with the recruits he got
 
The Champ said:
Maybe I’m misremembering. But it the early PJ years some fonts were trying to position CPJ recruiting as equal/better than CG based on comparable recruiting service rankings (excluding 07). Not that it matters now.
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Yeah, actually do remember that. But of couse, recruiting service rankins don't measure level of talent on a college football team -- they measure recruiting services' subjective opinions of high school football talent.

What I mean is that any time a discussion of Chan and his mediocrity came up, either while he was here or after, it was very rare to hear people say, "Yeah, our teams under him sucked because we didn't have good enough players" or "Yeah, you could tell we were really physically outmatched". Instead, people always talked about how we underperformed relative to our potential.

Agree with the poster above about finding "hidden" gems. Chan was an excellent recruiter of college football players, even if he was a middling recruiter in terms of high school star rankings.
 
The Champ said:
Not really. Chan had almost no college experience, and spent the last 20 years before GT in pro football, which really hurt him. BOB has been a CFB head coach at a top program, OC at the #1 program, and spent almost a decade at Georgia Tech earlier in his career.

Our fans don’t like him because he has little personality and his chin resembles a cheap stripper’s asshole.
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That absolutely made me LOL!! I can't image that up, but it made me laugh!
 
andrew said:
Is that really in doubt? Chan's teams were incredibly talented. That '06 team was absolutely stacked.
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So what we're saying is we need a Frankenstein-esque mash up of Chan's recruiting, O'Leary's program culture, and Johnson's coaching ability (scheme notwithstanding).
 
MatatoGT said:
So what we're saying is we need a Frankenstein-esque mash up of Chan's recruiting, O'Leary's program culture, and Johnson's coaching ability (scheme notwithstanding).
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Exactly. It's kind of like how for the team you want a good offense, good defense, and good special teams.

Someone forward this to Batt, I'll delete it in an hour.
 
The Champ said:
So you’re saying Chan the best recruiter at GT in the last 30 years?
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Chan excelled at talent recognition, he might have been the best we'll ever have. Not the "everybody" knows it types, but those players that were able to be developed into great players.

Too bad he was our Head Coach, he'd have been a fantastic General Manager or Director of Player Personnel.
 
MatatoGT said:
So what we're saying is we need a Frankenstein-esque mash up of Chan's recruiting, O'Leary's program culture, and Johnson's coaching ability (scheme notwithstanding).
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We needed Chan and whoever was helping him to staff our team, a Fridge or Johnson for offense and O'Leary or Tenuta for defense. With Ross as our Head Coach, nobody would want anything to do with us. We'd öööö a lot of people up & could be as assholeish as we wanted on and off the field.
 
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