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THWUGA said:
Exactly. The surest-handed WRs in history have relentlessly practiced catching balls, period. The whole "you can't teach hands" thing is completely wrong, for 99% of WRs who make it to the collegiate level. We aren't talking about an 11 year old in pee wee football who may or may not have any hand-eye coordination. We're talking about D1 WRs.
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That's not what he said. By the time a player gets to D1, you are coaching more on the finer points of route running and execution. Yes, any idiot knows that the more you do something the better you will be at it. The whole premise of Outliers is based on that. If you haven't, you need to read that book. But that isn't really 'coaching'. That's just reps. So. yes there is benefit of catching 100s of balls on the sidelines, but that is not what is meant here.
 
DinnerJacket said:
That's not what he said. By the time a player gets to D1, you are coaching more on the finer points of route running and execution. Yes, any idiot knows that the more you do something the better you will be at it. The whole premise of Outliers is based on that. If you haven't, you need to read that book. But that isn't really 'coaching'. That's just reps. So. yes there is benefit of catching 100s of balls on the sidelines, but that is not what is meant here.
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Bullshit. Calvin caught hundreds of footballs in practice to make it second nature. Had he stopped doing that, the ability to make the unbelievable catches he made would have suffered or been lost. This isn't catching a football in the back yard.
 
JJacket said:
Bullshit. Calvin caught hundreds of footballs in practice to make it second nature. Had he stopped doing that, the ability to make the unbelievable catches he made would have suffered or been lost. This isn't catching a football in the back yard.
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You really do have a reading comprehension problem.
 
THWUGA said:
Exactly. The surest-handed WRs in history have relentlessly practiced catching balls, period. The whole "you can't teach hands" thing is completely wrong, for 99% of WRs who make it to the collegiate level. We aren't talking about an 11 year old in pee wee football who may or may not have any hand-eye coordination. We're talking about D1 WRs.
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So why aren't our TE's "relentlessly practicing" catching balls? They don't need a coach to tell them to do that. You're basically proving that these players lack work ethic in addition to being untalented.
 
KQ explicitly said in his video the team wasn’t running the fundamentals in practice when Clownsfuhrer was in charge which got changed as soon as Key took over. It’s some new age coaching thing he was trying. I bet he read the same coaching book.
 
bonham said:
I hadn't heard that. My God, that is indefensible.
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Yeah why else would a team of 3 and 4 stars lose almost every game including games to NIU, Temple and Citadel. One game yeah maybe, it evens happens to SEC teams like Florida but he consistently lost to teams that had worse recruiting.
 
Akinji07 said:
KQ explicitly said in his video the team wasn’t running the fundamentals in practice when Clownsfuhrer was in charge which got changed as soon as Key took over. It’s some new age coaching thing he was trying. I bet he read the same coaching book.
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I heard he read it on a wall in a Waffle House. I'd tell you who, but it's insider info.
 
JJacket said:
So Calvin pregame standing on the sideline having a coach grab footballs off the rack and fire at him from 12 feet away was unnecessary?
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I mean sure, it's warming up his hands, but catching once you get to high school is an innate thing.
 
Akinji07 said:
KQ explicitly said in his video the team wasn’t running the fundamentals in practice when Clownsfuhrer was in charge which got changed as soon as Key took over. It’s some new age coaching thing he was trying. I bet he read the same coaching book.
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I like that name, but yeah, sounds about right.
 
JJacket said:
Bullshit. Calvin caught hundreds of footballs in practice to make it second nature. Had he stopped doing that, the ability to make the unbelievable catches he made would have suffered or been lost. This isn't catching a football in the back yard.
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Do you think ööööty WRs don’t practice catching hundreds of balls too? It’s a fallacy to believe a greats athlete is great because they practiced something more than everyone else. For every Kobe Bryant shooting 1,000 FTs before he leaves the gym, there is some kid in D3 doing the same thing - but he just isn’t as good at it.
 
JJacket said:
So coaching has nothing to do with ineptitude?

Calvin used to catch HUNDREDS of footballs every day. Before a game, he would have a coach take a rack of footballs and fire them at him. Were we doing anything like that, coaching wise, or just saying "he is putting in max effort" and leaving it at that. Demaryus Thomas was also a relentless worker and film watcher, thanks to Calvin and our staff.
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Ineptitude starts with recruiting; but we have to hope it ends with coaching. Our recruiting under the clown was good according to the recruiting rankings; but sub-par based on what is on the roster. We seemed to have a knack of signing some 3 star players that the other recruiters somehow knew were over rated (perhaps they watched them play?). We ended up with some inept players that have "measurables"; we had better hope the new staff can coach them up.

I do agree with you about the S&C coach, I just don't think that impacted the TE's as drastically as it did the DB's.
 
THWUGA said:
Exactly. The surest-handed WRs in history have relentlessly practiced catching balls, period. The whole "you can't teach hands" thing is completely wrong, for 99% of WRs who make it to the collegiate level. We aren't talking about an 11 year old in pee wee football who may or may not have any hand-eye coordination. We're talking about D1 WRs.
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I have heard coaches in the past who have recruited WR's from the track team say, "I can teach a kid to be a receiver; but I can't teach them how to run fast". OTH, CJ knew how to catch before he ever set foot on campus.
 
JJacket said:
Bullshit. Calvin caught hundreds of footballs in practice to make it second nature. Had he stopped doing that, the ability to make the unbelievable catches he made would have suffered or been lost. This isn't catching a football in the back yard.
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CJ also made crazy catches that 90% of WRs couldn't come down with because the passes were so bad at times when thrown by RB. Some of those passes literally looked like they were playing in the back yard. Just think of the numbers he would have put up with a blue chip pure pro-style passer while here.
 
aeromech said:
I have heard coaches in the past who have recruited WR's from the track team say, "I can teach a kid to be a receiver; but I can't teach them how to run fast". OTH, CJ knew how to catch before he ever set foot on campus.
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This has happened at GT before..... Carson tried it with GT Track HoFer "Bullett" Ben Vaughan, much to GT Track Coach Buddy Foulkes' chagrin..... unfortunately Ben had "Hands of Stone" and didn't record a single catch.... quit after our sixth game in 1969.... IOW, he made the trip to LA to play USC, then decided to concentrate on graduating.

There's an old saying, "Today's WRs who have incurable "dropsies" become tomorrow's DBs."
 
DeepSnap said:
This has happened at GT before..... Carson tried it with GT Track HoFer "Bullett" Ben Vaughan, much to GT Track Coach Buddy Foulkes' chagrin..... unfortunately Ben had "Hands of Stone" and didn't record a single catch.... quit after our sixth game in 1969.... IOW, he made the trip to LA to play USC, then decided to concentrate on graduating.

There's an old saying, "Today's WRs who have incurable "dropsies" become tomorrow's DBs."
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I heard it this way: "DB are just WR's who can't catch."
 
It’s obvious some of y’all have never played the game before, or even watched a practice. Of course catching can be taught. There’s different ways to structure your hands depending on the type of pass, i.e. catch a ball high overhead, low to the ground, behind you, or a fade that drops into your grasp. Plus how to tuck it once it’s caught, how to maneuver your hands to the ball when a defender is in close, etc. There’s a lot of things to think about to catch a ball. It only seems “innate” because of the number of reps these guys put in to get it right.
 
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