Wesley Walker to the portal

ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
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Wesley Walker going in transfer portal, per report

Georgia Tech defensive back Wesley Walker is planning to enter the transfer portal, according to a report from Rivals on Saturday evening. Walker’s departure would further deplete the experience from a secondary that has already lost to graduation four players who started at least six games last...
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He was on the field 79% of the snaps in games he played in. You just didn’t want to see the talent for some reason, but our head coach did.

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Key Lawrence tweets that OU needs Georgia Tech transfer Wesley Walker

Oklahoma defensive back Key Lawrence voiced his support for OU to add Georgia Tech defensive back Wesley Walker out of the transfer portal.
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Former teammate now at OU sees something in him.
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All I asked for was some relevant stats. All that you've really provided is that he was a key contributor on a unit 130/130 in FBS in Defensive Pass Efficiency. Maybe PFF graded him out as a bright spot, I don't know. I'm not assuming anything at this point whereas you are assuming "talent" because of PT. You then attribute it to the "head coach" like he's the one grading all units as ATL instead of being evaluated by their position coaches. Is this the case? Because if not, his position coach got canned so maybe his evaluations weren't the best.
 
daBuzz said:
Excellent point. Glad we didn't have that opinion when this guy named Tashard Choice transferred from Oklahoma to GT because he was behind that Adrian Peterson guy. Great job setting me straight!

You don't think there are players at Bama, UGAg, LSU, Clemson and about a half dozen or so other programs who can't break into their starting lineup but would start for us?
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You had to go back 20 years to find an example. How many of Collins 4/5 stars transfers that weren’t playing at their previous stop have made any sort of impact? There are a bunch of total busts in there. Miles Sims probably the only exception as a solid contributor.

Trying to grab kids that don’t want to compete, or can’t compete, at Clemson or Georgia isn’t going to help us. You’ll just end up with a team of Kenyatta Watsons.
 
gtchief said:
All I asked for was some relevant stats. All that you've really provided is that he was a key contributor on a unit 130/130 in FBS in Defensive Pass Efficiency. Maybe PFF graded him out as a bright spot, I don't know. I'm not assuming anything at this point whereas you are assuming "talent" because of PT. You then attribute it to the "head coach" like he's the one grading all units as ATL instead of being evaluated by their position coaches. Is this the case? Because if not, his position coach got canned so maybe his evaluations weren't the best.
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Yes. It is the case. Geoff is highly involved in depth chart and playing time. He leads a coaches’ meeting on Thursday where they pour through their internal data, the game plan for the week, the opposing players, and finalize the depth chart and playing time for every player on the team. He’s called it the “playing the players” meeting.

You really weren’t able to see Wesley Walker as our breakout player last year? Sucks it wasn’t more obvious to people. He and Charlie Thomas were the only ones that consistently made noise at points last year.
 
smokey_wasp said:
We weren't beating these dwags with the option. Different animal from what Richt was putting out there toward the end.
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The THREE in Athens also included Smart and a pretty good QB, and all 3 had CPJ armed with a knife in a gun fight. People don't have to minimize his accomplishments....just say you didn't care for him. A ton of us don't want him or the TO back, but we'd kill for a few Orange Bowls, ACCC, and wins in Athens....pretty good trade off for getting all hyped over now getting recruits averaging about 3.6 vs 3.4, huh? Yeah, I know, the 3.6 guys are longer.
 
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GoldZ said:
The THREE in Athens also included Smart and a pretty good QB, and all 3 had CPJ armed with a knife in a gun fight. People don't have to minimize his accomplishments....just say you didn't care for him. A ton of us don't want him or the TO back, but we'd kill for a few Orange Bowls, ACCC, and wins in Athens....pretty good trade off for getting all hyped over now getting recruits averaging about 3.6 vs 3.4, huh? Yeah, I know, the 3.6 guys are longer.
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False dichotomy
 
The Champ said:
Probably weren’t getting shutout by these dawgs either, or Notre dame, or lost 100-0 to
Close the season and laughed at those not seeing “progress.” Don’t think The option ever got shut out, did it? Nope. Actually, Our options teams were only held to single digits 6 times in 11 years. GC has already blown by that number. Sure is fun scoring 0, 0, 8, 7, 2, 7, 0 isn’t it?
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Not getting shutout is not a major accomplishment. I remember several games where we managed to put some points up to avoid the home shutout. So what? We lost.
 
GoldZ said:
The THREE in Athens also included Smart and a pretty good QB, and all 3 had CPJ armed with a knife in a gun fight. People don't have to minimize his accomplishments....just say you didn't care for him. A ton of us don't want him or the TO back, but we'd kill for a few Orange Bowls, ACCC, and wins in Athens....pretty good trade off for getting all hyped over now getting recruits averaging about 3.6 vs 3.4, huh? Yeah, I know, the 3.6 guys are longer.
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Damn, three in Athens. One with the best talent we have had in decades at GT - thanks to Chan. The others because we had a freak athlete at QB.

Jesus folks, the option isn't coming back. Get over it.

FWIW, I didn't want Chan fired, but I don't cry about it on every thread.
 
GoldZ said:
The THREE in Athens also included Smart and a pretty good QB, and all 3 had CPJ armed with a knife in a gun fight. People don't have to minimize his accomplishments....just say you didn't care for him. A ton of us don't want him or the TO back, but we'd kill for a few Orange Bowls, ACCC, and wins in Athens....pretty good trade off for getting all hyped over now getting recruits averaging about 3.6 vs 3.4, huh? Yeah, I know, the 3.6 guys are longer.
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I liked him. His accomplishments were real. They were also in the rearview mirror when he left and none of his proteges are bringing them back. That's all I am saying.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
Yes. It is the case. Geoff is highly involved in depth chart and playing time. He leads a coaches’ meeting on Thursday where they pour through their internal data, the game plan for the week, the opposing players, and finalize the depth chart and playing time for every player on the team. He’s called it the “playing the players” meeting.

You really weren’t able to see Wesley Walker as our breakout player last year? Sucks it wasn’t more obvious to people. He and Charlie Thomas were the only ones that consistently made noise at points last year.
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Thanks for the info on how they determine PT. I hope our problems at DB are fixable with coaching realignment and it's not an evaluation issue. I remember a couple of Charlie's highlights but not much else otherwise.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
You really weren’t able to see Wesley Walker as our breakout player last year? Sucks it wasn’t more obvious to people. He and Charlie Thomas were the only ones that consistently made noise at points last year.
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Not to diminish Wesley Walker or anything but Kelly Quinlan's comments refer to the coaches thinking he actually regressed last year and had a worse season than he did in his first 2 seasons.
 
The Champ said:
You had to go back 20 years to find an example. How many of Collins 4/5 stars transfers that weren’t playing at their previous stop have made any sort of impact? There are a bunch of total busts in there. Miles Sims probably the only exception as a solid contributor.

Trying to grab kids that don’t want to compete, or can’t compete, at Clemson or Georgia isn’t going to help us. You’ll just end up with a team of Kenyatta Watsons.
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Nah. I didn't HAVE to go back 20 years to find an example. I could have given you John Dewberry as our most prominent transferee on and on off the field I wanted to go back to the 80's. There have been others. But you're trying to do a masterful job of redefining the argument by saying "any sort of impact".

You don't think Devin Cochran and Ryan Johnson, both transfers under Collins, starting all the games on the O Line was "any sort of impact"? Or are you not calling it "any sort of impact" because we only won 3 games with them playing? But, beware...if you're doing that, then Wesley Walker and all of the others transferring out didn't have "any sort of impact" either because they played as well in those games where we only won 3 of them. So, please, by all means...tell me again how players who transfer in aren't worth our effort, Mr. Genius Football Coach? LOL.
 
JJacket said:
Not getting shutout is not a major accomplishment. I remember several games where we managed to put some points up to avoid the home shutout. So what? We lost.
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Not getting shutout is better than getting shutout. Prior to Collins, the last time we were shut out was 1997 (on the road) and 1957 (at home). No home shutouts in 60+ years, and Collins throws up two (to our biggest overall rival and one of our biggest conference rivals, to boot). No road shutouts in 20+ years and Collins throws up one to a hated rival and narrowly misses another to freakin’ Temple.

Does it ultimately matter? Not really. But it’s a point of pride, and that’s in increasingly short supply under this regime.

JRjr
 
vapspwi said:
Not getting shutout is better than getting shutout. Prior to Collins, the last time we were shut out was 1997 (on the road) and 1957 (at home). No home shutouts in 60+ years, and Collins throws up two (to our biggest overall rival and one of our biggest conference rivals, to boot). No road shutouts in 20+ years and Collins throws up one to a hated rival and narrowly misses another to freakin’ Temple.

Does it ultimately matter? Not really. But it’s a point of pride, and that’s in increasingly short supply under this regime.

JRjr
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Yeah, don't care. It is sad when our fanbase looks at being "not shut out" as some sort of victory.
 
JJacket said:
Damn, three in Athens. One with the best talent we have had in decades at GT - thanks to Chan. The others because we had a freak athlete at QB.

Jesus folks, the option isn't coming back. Get over it.

FWIW, I didn't want Chan fired, but I don't cry about it on every thread.
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Read mine more slowly again.
 
JJacket said:
Yeah, don't care. It is sad when our fanbase looks at being "not shut out" as some sort of victory.
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When you hardly ever win anymore you look for any sign of life. 0 pts is a pretty good indication you’re having a really ööööty day on offense. When you do it twice in a row, well that’s historically craprastic.
 
ibeeballin said:
This always get posted as if this was a walkoff into the sunset type deal. There were 4 subsequent seasons after the OB 2 of which were losing season
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Yeah that’s how those things work. People do it with Ross and O’Leary too, but no one says both those guys lost 5 games a piece in their final year at Tech. When you have an overall successful tenure somewhere, people remember the highlights
 
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