What are the REAL reasons our football program can't compete?

[The Jacket]

Jesus Christ. That's way more than I would have guessed.

I took my son to the Varsity for the first time about a week ago, and was able to point out the upper north to him and talk a bit about Tech. It occurred to me that if there were a game going at that very moment, the scenery would probably be about the same. Probably a few more people in the dining room, but the top portion of the stadium would be just as pristine and unexplored. Do we know for sure that there isn't some uncontacted tribe up there comprised of kids whose parents just left the little bastards in the concrete wilderness in those early days of the post-9/11 world?

 

[CarsonNewmanJacket]

I took my son to the Varsity for the first time about a week ago, and was able to point out the upper north to him and talk a bit about Tech. It occurred to me that if there were a game going at that very moment, the scenery would probably be about the same. Probably a few more people in the dining room, but the top portion of the stadium would be just as pristine and unexplored. Do we know for sure that there isn't some uncontacted tribe up there comprised of kids whose parents just left the little bastards in the concrete wilderness in those early days of the post-9/11 world?

Gotta admit, I was always scared of the upper parts of the stadium when I was a kid. I always though I would fall backwards.

 

[The Jacket]

Gotta admit, I was always scared of the upper parts of the stadium when I was a kid. I always though I would fall backwards.

Doesn't seem impossible in the upper north. If the Battle of Section 223 had been in 219, we'd probably have a memorial page for those either killed in the fall or presumed lost in low earth orbit.

 

[CarsonNewmanJacket]

Doesn't seem impossible in the upper north. If the Battle of Section 223 had been in 219, we'd probably have a memorial page for those either killed in the fall or presumed lost in low earth orbit.

Only good thing about those seats is if somebody either spilled their coke or their beer, the Bobby Dodd waterfall wouldn’t come flooding down from behind you.

 

[The Jacket]

Only good thing about those seats is if somebody either spilled their coke or their beer, the Bobby Dodd waterfall wouldn’t come flooding down from behind you.

I think I have only sat in the upper portion at a spring game or something. The middle portion, where the offices and suites are, is bretty gud if you're cool with the endzone perspective. I have a hard time making sense of what I'm looking at from that angle tbh but I may have better luck if I were to try it sober.

 

[fakelegzz]

1. Limited curriculum
2. Calculus
3. Known as a tough academic environment
4. öööö city and fan base
5. Apathetic student body

 

[GT65_UGA89]

I’ve loathed the upper north since it’s inception. Now knowing the debt I loathe all the more. What a mistake.

 

[gtchief]

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I did not experience a paywall with my browser and ad blocker. You can always try a private window. Regardless, the quote is there.

 

[The Jacket]

I’ve loathed the upper north since it’s inception. Now knowing the debt I loathe all the more. What a mistake.

In my first few seasons as a Tech fan, 97-01, the north seemed like an exciting place to watch the game. Student sections are supposed to, of course, but there seems to be a big difference between the student section there now vs. then. But then again, 1997 and 2001 bookended the only stretch of great Tech football between the 1990 national title and the first years of Paul Johnson. The lower north seemed wild and loud enough for games like VPI in 2009, not sure how long it will be before we have another game of that caliber to see whether the students have entirely forgotten how to give a öööö.

 

[gtleviathan]

13.5 million, I think.

Georgia Tech Football: Show Me the Money

You’ve got the brawn debt / I’ve we’ve got the brain analysis and suggestions / let’s make lots of money.

www.fromtherumbleseat.com

Anyone know how long this debt service is going to last? I assume it's been refinanced over the years.

 

[aeromech]

I think I have only sat in the upper portion at a spring game or something. The middle portion, where the offices and suites are, is bretty gud if you're cool with the endzone perspective. I have a hard time making sense of what I'm looking at from that angle tbh but I may have better luck if I were to try it sober.

I was in the Upper North during a F-18 fly over. I swear I could feel heat from the jet exhaust; maybe it was just IR from looking up the exhaust nozzle.

Perspective up there is really different. It is better in my opinion for seeing what the O-line is doing. Weirdest thing is watching punts that seem like they go straight up and down. Really tough to tell if short yardage plays are successful either.

 

[aeromech]

Yep. We haven't won a damn thing since that Bobby Dodd.

Even when we did win in 1990 we couldn't sustain it in part due to the lack of fan support. It was reported that Bobby Ross was pretty disappointed that we still couldn't fill the stadium the year after winning the MNC.

 

[aeromech]

1. Limited curriculum
2. Calculus
3. Known as a tough academic environment
4. öööö city and fan base
5. Apathetic student body

So basically academics, academics, academics, a SEC city, apathetic student body. I think 'academics' are a cop out for us these days, the curriculum is an issue; but not as huge an issue as it was a couple of decades ago. Getting the populace of Atlanta or the state of Georgia interested in the ACC is an issue. I don't know how you solve the student body issue, the students GT attracts are just going to be nerds, I guess it goes back to academics again.

 

[The Jacket]

Perspective up there is really different. It is better in my opinion for seeing what the O-line is doing. Weirdest thing is watching punts that seem like they go straight up and down. Really tough to tell if short yardage plays are successful either.

That's what would seem to make the most sense, definitely, but I was surprised to find that it wasn't so for me. I watched the 2008 season from 222 and learned to keep up with the option that way. For the Georgia game that year, I was sitting on the very edge of the toilet seat atop Sanford Stadium and was still able to follow everything as it was happening. But when we went to the Orange Bowl I was sitting behind our endzone and I couldn't figure out what the öööö was happening. It's just as well because the answer was "nothing good" but it was pretty frustrating. After spending so long playing college football video games which use that perspective, I'd expect it to be easier to watch from the endzone. I dunno, the upper east is the GOAT and I have always loved that perspective, everything else seems foreign now.

 

[MeatWrench]

Let Cincy start playing tOSU and UMich every year and check back in on their program in 5 years. They orbit a different sun in G5 and there’s room to operate on ‘what if’ that a really good coach can apparently exploit. They also live in a wildly different recruiting environment that I think operates under the same principle of G5 allowing for under-the-radar type benefit.

I’d love to see relegation/promotion incorporated into NCAA.

 

[The Jacket]

They also live in a wildly different recruiting environment that I think operates under the same principle of G5 allowing for under-the-radar type benefit.

Not sure I follow. What is the under-the-radar benefit and why aren't we exploiting it from our entrenchment deep in the basement under the radar?

I’d love to see relegation/promotion incorporated into NCAA.

Should happen, never will.

 

[Flywheel]

I wonder sometimes how different the program would be if the 2002-03 renovation had never gone ahead.

Especially the big tumor over the north endzone that we've never filled up.

 

[BrentwoodJacket]

How could one end zone of economy level seating cost enough to have us burdened with debt 20 years later? Especially at a school renowned for architecture and engineering expertise?

 

[The Jacket]

How could one end zone of economy level seating cost enough to have us burdened with debt 20 years later? Especially at a school renowned for architecture and engineering expertise?

There's a single brain behind the most disastrous decisions I've seen made at Tech.

 

[vapspwi]

How could one end zone of economy level seating cost enough to have us burdened with debt 20 years later? Especially at a school renowned for architecture and engineering expertise?

Was the north deck construction part of the same project that reconfigured the east stands, built the club seats/club lounge, moved the field, and a bunch of other stuff? I can’t remember anymore, but that might help explain the high cost of the renovation/addition.

JRjr